Current China Entry policy
#1681
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Good Luck tomorrow. Keep us posted.
#1682
Ambassador, Hong Kong and Macau




Join Date: May 2009
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Well if the Emperor cannot command back the tide he can confiscate everyones tide gauges and phones.
#1683


Join Date: Jul 2011
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To understand this, you simply need to use different verbiage: you need to use the words SARS-CoV-2 and COVID-19, NOT Omicron. From speaking with people here in Beijing, the difference of the variants has just not sunk in... AT ALL!
"Well, this worked before, so it has to work this time too. Why wouldn't it???"
"Well, this worked before, so it has to work this time too. Why wouldn't it???"
I wonder how many people have been infected and tested positive at home, and just haven't reported it. My friend says that if someone in a housing compound tests positive, then everyone else in that compound gets locked in for 14 days from the date of the positive test. So now they have not only stigmatized getting infected, but they've also created a significant disincentive for reporting cases. And due to limitations in testing capability, they've apparently started asking people to test at home. So if I had to bet money on it, I'd bet that there are a ton of people who know they tested positive but are deliberately not reporting their status, and when things finally do open up, these cases are going to kickstart the spread again.
#1684
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Join Date: Feb 2003
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If they're too stupid or stubborn to learn from other people's experiences with the same thing, someone should make sure that all of their nuclear power plants are shut down. Immediately. It's not like Taiwan, New Zealand, Australia, South Korea, Japan, etc., have all stopped trying to get to COVID zero for no reason.
They should be trying to get as much Pfizer and Moderna as possible and giving the highest priority to everyone over 80, then everyone over 70, etc.
I wonder how many people have been infected and tested positive at home, and just haven't reported it. My friend says that if someone in a housing compound tests positive, then everyone else in that compound gets locked in for 14 days from the date of the positive test. So now they have not only stigmatized getting infected, but they've also created a significant disincentive for reporting cases. And due to limitations in testing capability, they've apparently started asking people to test at home. So if I had to bet money on it, I'd bet that there are a ton of people who know they tested positive but are deliberately not reporting their status, and when things finally do open up, these cases are going to kickstart the spread again.
They should be trying to get as much Pfizer and Moderna as possible and giving the highest priority to everyone over 80, then everyone over 70, etc.
I wonder how many people have been infected and tested positive at home, and just haven't reported it. My friend says that if someone in a housing compound tests positive, then everyone else in that compound gets locked in for 14 days from the date of the positive test. So now they have not only stigmatized getting infected, but they've also created a significant disincentive for reporting cases. And due to limitations in testing capability, they've apparently started asking people to test at home. So if I had to bet money on it, I'd bet that there are a ton of people who know they tested positive but are deliberately not reporting their status, and when things finally do open up, these cases are going to kickstart the spread again.
#1685


Join Date: Jul 2011
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It is impossible to avoid the PCR test. Everyone in the whole city was made to take a PCR test yesterday. Thanks to the system of neighborhood committee, basically the most local arm of the CCP, they will know exactly who hasn’t taken the test and come get you and force you to take it. Nobody is able to hide in their apartment to avoid the test. Also every antigen test I’ve had so far has been given to me by the committee and it is expected that everyone in the building immediately post a picture of their results in the wechat group for your building. There is nowhere to hide here.
#1686


Join Date: May 2009
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Zero covid did work excellent while there was no vaccination, and people were left to die on the streets in India, or dead bodies kept in freezer trucks in the US.
If you run a system successfully for (almost) two years, you're bound to have issues on switching. Singapore als panicked when Omicron was fresh, but were able to adapt quickly. This was December/January, and this is where China seemingly failed to adapt their strategy.
We'll see how it goes, but it looks quite dark at the moment indeed. February/March should have been used for preparation of "living with covid", not trying to battle it anymore.
#1687
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#1688




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Glad I could be of help with the information. I’m extremely glad I left when I did. I can’t imagine what it would have been like to be locked up in my apartment in Xujiahui during this period.
#1689




Join Date: May 2010
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It is impossible to avoid the PCR test. Everyone in the whole city was made to take a PCR test yesterday. Thanks to the system of neighborhood committee, basically the most local arm of the CCP, they will know exactly who hasnt taken the test and come get you and force you to take it. Nobody is able to hide in their apartment to avoid the test. Also every antigen test Ive had so far has been given to me by the committee and it is expected that everyone in the building immediately post a picture of their results in the wechat group for your building. There is nowhere to hide here.
Just in case, I took two tests, one for each passport I am using for this trip.
#1690
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In stark contrast: I just took RT-PCR tests here in Beijing, and I am still surprised that no one actually checks ID. Anyone could just turn up, and do a test for anyone else, it seems. Might have been a phone login at one point, but not too sure. Seems odd...
Just in case, I took two tests, one for each passport I am using for this trip.
Just in case, I took two tests, one for each passport I am using for this trip.
#1691


Join Date: Jul 2011
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Thats actually true here as well. They only look at the code on your phone and scan it. Conceivably you could register and send the code screenshot to someone else and have them test for you. That would work in a big compound with lots of foreigners. I’m the only foreigner in my building and they all know me and my apartment number. So I wouldn’t be able to pull it off during these lockdown tests but I presumably could have had someone take my tests a few weeks ago when they were mass testing at a place further away from my building.
#1692
Join Date: Apr 2019
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We called the bus operator and he said the Hongqiao Pudong bus is packed now, with hours-long lines. He suggested a couple of others (line 2, 4, or 5). We're going to take line 4, from Hongkou Longemont.
(Moderator, this maybe we need to split this into a "exiting China" thread)
(Moderator, this maybe we need to split this into a "exiting China" thread)
#1693


Join Date: Jan 2005
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In the meantime a lot of people I know are starting to have problems with food shortages. Both expats and locals. I am a prepper so I spent the week before the lockdown buying up cans of soup and pasta but many didnt do the same, including Moondog, or thought it would only be 4 days.
#1694


Join Date: Jul 2011
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To understand this, you simply need to use different verbiage: you need to use the words SARS-CoV-2 and COVID-19, NOT Omicron. From speaking with people here in Beijing, the difference of the variants has just not sunk in... AT ALL!
"Well, this worked before, so it has to work this time too. Why wouldn't it???"
"Well, this worked before, so it has to work this time too. Why wouldn't it???"
They still haven't figured out that they are in a hole, so they are continuing to dig. I'm going to get a pretty good laugh once they finally realize that they've been off course, because anyone with common sense recognized this months ago.
#1695




Join Date: May 2010
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Got to Guangzhou, now waiting for next flight.
Farewell, China....until we meet again!
Farewell, China....until we meet again!

