Originally Posted by djsflynn (Post 37237826)

Although I disagree with a lot of the opinions on Cathay held by NZflyer777, my information is that they are correct in asserting that none of the 25+ 777-9s already built are CX frames.

Originally Posted by wadia13 (Post 37237950)

My own speculation is that most of those first 25 are for Lufthansa and Emirates (especially Emirates). But what is the exact schedule after that? There is a big difference if CX were to get the plane #30 vs plane #120 out of the assembly line (for example). Is there public information about this? If there official information that ANA & SQ will get planes before CX? If so, please give us a source or sources.

Originally Posted by CXj3j24 (Post 37237954)

The first 777-9 frame for SQ was built in 2024. There are alrd reg # for both SQ and ANA. Getting #30 for CX is “remotely possible” - it is true that CX did not manage to navigate this 777-9 delivery chaos. Who to blame? Management or Covid in HK? Pointing finger is kinda meaningless now.

Originally Posted by CXj3j24 (Post 37237962)

I also want to add that CX is the only one without 787-10 on order / not operating any 787 in the 777-9 delivery list (vs its major competitors). CX’s bargaining power over Boeing now is like Meh…I guess

Originally Posted by boybi (Post 37237973)

Does EK have 787s on order?

Originally Posted by CXj3j24 (Post 37237962)

I also want to add that CX is the only one without 787-10 on order / not operating any 787 in the 777-9 delivery list (vs its major competitors). CX’s bargaining power over Boeing now is like Meh…I guess

Originally Posted by Reply1984 (Post 37238074)

Who will have stronger bargaining power, for an existing customer, or a potential new customer?

Originally Posted by wadia13 (Post 37237950)

My own speculation is that most of those first 25 are for Lufthansa and Emirates (especially Emirates).

Originally Posted by CXj3j24 (Post 37238087)

The problem is CX is more like a none customer to Dreamliner despite of all the flirting on PR level.

And EK, QR, LH and SQ are even bigger “potential customers” to Boeing given the A380 on their hands to replace in the future.

Originally Posted by wadia13 (Post 37237950)

My own speculation is that most of those first 25 are for Lufthansa and Emirates (especially Emirates). But what is the exact schedule after that? There is a big difference if CX were to get the plane #30 vs plane #120 out of the assembly line (for example). Is there public information about this? If there official information that ANA & SQ will get planes before CX? If so, please give us a source or sources.

Originally Posted by Reply1984 (Post 37238456)

CX is not nobody. Years ago CX was the largest B77W and A330 operator globally. Although the emergence of Middle East carriers makes CX ‘less important’, CX still has 40+ long-haul widebody demand for 77W replacement and further growth this year. Boeing always wants to sell into CX but CX chose A321neo over B737max, A339 over B78X, and even A350F over B778F. I don’t think Boeing will sit there and watch Airbus steal more orders from them.

Originally Posted by CXj3j24 (Post 37237962)

I also want to add that CX is the only one without 787-10 on order / not operating any 787 in the 777-9 delivery list (vs its major competitors). CX’s bargaining power over Boeing now is like Meh…I guess

Originally Posted by NZflyer777 (Post 37238527)

CX is literally a downsized airline and at best is a regional player post Covid.

Originally Posted by djsflynn (Post 37238196)

The first batch is definitely earmarked for LH, EK and QR, but I don't have insight into if any other airlines are in that group.



I don't recall anything being said about the post-25 batch. There may well be some reports in assorted aviation media but only a few of those would I consider trustworthy. There may also be a spreadsheet listing 777X frames and owners – and if there's not, I have no doubt one will quickly arise once the 777-9s begin delivery, along the same lines as some of the excellent Airbus trackers – but again, one has to be careful regarding the provenance of information. It's all too easy for somebody to claim this and that and something else, and even a stopped clock is correct twice a day, so judge any source on their 'qualifications' and previous track record.