Oct 2, 2015, 3:08 am
Last edit by: sxc
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FAQs as answered by AgencyGuy:
When will the mid-tier benefits be awarded?
They will be awarded as the member hits the mid-tier milestone. Not at the end of the membership year. These will be valid for a year commencing the day they are granted. No points are deduced when members are awarded these benefits.
Does that mean a member reaching 1800 tier points will get all three mid-tier benefits?
Yes, each benefit will be made available as the member hits the 1400, 1600 and 1800 point milestones
What mid-tier benefits will be awarded as of the conversion date of 15 April 2016?
The mid-tier benefits will kick in automatically after 15th April, if your converted club points balance exceeds the mid-tier thresholds. So for a Diamond tier member, if your converted balance is 1800 points you will immediately have access to two first class lounge guest passes, four bookable upgrades and one companion Gold card.
A Gold member on his/her way to Diamond pick up four short/medium upgrades along the way, but a renewing Diamond gets nothing?
You are correct, Silver, Gold or Diamond members on their way to renewal, don’t get additional benefits until they reach the mid-tier thresholds. But they will get there, I guess the benefits are designed to recognize members who go the extra mile after they have passed their renewal thresholds.
Is there any requirement on the underlying booking sub-classes when using a mid-tier upgrade "coupon"?
Yes, the original flight needs to be booked in an “upgradable” sub-class, the same sub-classes that qualify for Asia Miles upgrades
Is economy upgraded to Premium Economy or business for flights with Premium Economy?
It is always a one class upgrade so Economy to Premium Economy, if a flight does not have Premium Economy then the upgrade is to Business.
Are the sub-classes for the upgraded bookings A, I, and E (if applicable)?
I don’t know what these subclasses are yet other than that they will be revenue instead of redemption sub-classes. I guess they will be announced later.
What miles will be awarded for a flight upgraded using a upgrade coupon? The original ticket class, or the upgraded class?
I understand that both points and miles will be credited based on the upgraded class.
Green Re-Qualification
For Green members, if their membership year ends before 15 April 2016, like now, their membership will automatically be renewed. If their membership ends after 15 April and they have ANY club points at that time, they will be automatically renewed for another year (even if they are below 100 pts). If their membership ends after 15 April and they have no club points at that time, they will lose their Green membership or have the option of paying the US$100 fee to renew.
What are the best value segments under the new system?
Switching out of Marco Polo: What do you choose and why?
FAQs as answered by AgencyGuy:
When will the mid-tier benefits be awarded?
They will be awarded as the member hits the mid-tier milestone. Not at the end of the membership year. These will be valid for a year commencing the day they are granted. No points are deduced when members are awarded these benefits.
Does that mean a member reaching 1800 tier points will get all three mid-tier benefits?
Yes, each benefit will be made available as the member hits the 1400, 1600 and 1800 point milestones
What mid-tier benefits will be awarded as of the conversion date of 15 April 2016?
The mid-tier benefits will kick in automatically after 15th April, if your converted club points balance exceeds the mid-tier thresholds. So for a Diamond tier member, if your converted balance is 1800 points you will immediately have access to two first class lounge guest passes, four bookable upgrades and one companion Gold card.
A Gold member on his/her way to Diamond pick up four short/medium upgrades along the way, but a renewing Diamond gets nothing?
You are correct, Silver, Gold or Diamond members on their way to renewal, don’t get additional benefits until they reach the mid-tier thresholds. But they will get there, I guess the benefits are designed to recognize members who go the extra mile after they have passed their renewal thresholds.
Is there any requirement on the underlying booking sub-classes when using a mid-tier upgrade "coupon"?
Yes, the original flight needs to be booked in an “upgradable” sub-class, the same sub-classes that qualify for Asia Miles upgrades
Is economy upgraded to Premium Economy or business for flights with Premium Economy?
It is always a one class upgrade so Economy to Premium Economy, if a flight does not have Premium Economy then the upgrade is to Business.
Are the sub-classes for the upgraded bookings A, I, and E (if applicable)?
I don’t know what these subclasses are yet other than that they will be revenue instead of redemption sub-classes. I guess they will be announced later.
What miles will be awarded for a flight upgraded using a upgrade coupon? The original ticket class, or the upgraded class?
I understand that both points and miles will be credited based on the upgraded class.
Green Re-Qualification
For Green members, if their membership year ends before 15 April 2016, like now, their membership will automatically be renewed. If their membership ends after 15 April and they have ANY club points at that time, they will be automatically renewed for another year (even if they are below 100 pts). If their membership ends after 15 April and they have no club points at that time, they will lose their Green membership or have the option of paying the US$100 fee to renew.
Changes to MPC announced for 15 Apr 2016
May 27, 2016, 11:10 pm
#781
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 2
Suggest transfer to Qatar airways
If you can look at Qatar air - their club criteria is competitive/ new aircraft / great fares and strong loyalty benefits.
QUOTE=carmy;26647379]Why would you take a flight just to keep GR? Remember that priority boarding for GR is now with PEY, and not business class previously.
If you don't have to fly too often in economy, I would just look for ways to fatten up the miles balance through credit card spend and use those miles to just redeem J. Alternatively, just fly another airline that has cheaper business class fares.
I know it's a thing to express undying love for CX on this board, but there are other (and possibly better) airlines out there.[/QUOTE]
QUOTE=carmy;26647379]Why would you take a flight just to keep GR? Remember that priority boarding for GR is now with PEY, and not business class previously.
If you don't have to fly too often in economy, I would just look for ways to fatten up the miles balance through credit card spend and use those miles to just redeem J. Alternatively, just fly another airline that has cheaper business class fares.
I know it's a thing to express undying love for CX on this board, but there are other (and possibly better) airlines out there.[/QUOTE]
Jun 1, 2016, 2:39 pm
#782
Join Date: Jul 2008
Programs: OW Sapp, SPG Plat, Hyatt Plat, Hilton Gold
Posts: 291
Jun 6, 2016, 7:25 pm
#784
Join Date: May 2013
Location: west coast best coast
Programs: TINDER GOLD, STARBUCKS GOLD, COSTCO EXECUTIVE!!
Posts: 3,989
Is it true that if you put your MPC number in a F redemption (from a partner program), that they might give you MPC Green for free?
I can't remember where I heard this rumor from, but if anyone can verify that'd be helpful. Thanks!
I can't remember where I heard this rumor from, but if anyone can verify that'd be helpful. Thanks!
Jun 7, 2016, 1:49 am
#785
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: NYC
Programs: Marriot Am, MU Pt
Posts: 3,092
It used to be that if you fly paid F they would offer MPO for free, but if you're paying for F I don't know why you won't pay the $50/$100 fee.
Jun 7, 2016, 3:24 am
#786
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 905
All passengers flying in F or J are entitled to receive a "join MPC for free" application form during the flight, regardless of whether they straight up paid for the seat, redeemed it with points, or got op-upped. I've seen flight attendants proactively distributing this form throughout the cabin.
For folks traveling in F and J who are already MPC members, they could still take this form and give it to friends or relatives who currently have no status with CX. And all that has to be done is fill in the application form, scan it and email it back to CX; and boom, they will see themselves becoming an MPC member very soon, no questions asked. This is a backdoor that allows people to get MPC membership without actually paying for the application fee. But I'm not sure if that form could still be as easily attained nowadays, especially after the MPC revamp.
For folks traveling in F and J who are already MPC members, they could still take this form and give it to friends or relatives who currently have no status with CX. And all that has to be done is fill in the application form, scan it and email it back to CX; and boom, they will see themselves becoming an MPC member very soon, no questions asked. This is a backdoor that allows people to get MPC membership without actually paying for the application fee. But I'm not sure if that form could still be as easily attained nowadays, especially after the MPC revamp.
Jun 7, 2016, 3:38 am
#787
Ambassador, Hong Kong and Macau
Join Date: May 2009
Location: HKG
Programs: Non-top tier Asia Miles member
Posts: 19,803
All passengers flying in F or J are entitled to receive a "join MPC for free" application form during the flight, regardless of whether they straight up paid for the seat, redeemed it with points, or got op-upped. I've seen flight attendants proactively distributing this form throughout the cabin.
Jun 7, 2016, 4:20 am
#788
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Hong Kong SAR
Programs: JL Diamond, CX Gold, HH Gold
Posts: 277
All passengers flying in F or J are entitled to receive a "join MPC for free" application form during the flight, regardless of whether they straight up paid for the seat, redeemed it with points, or got op-upped. I've seen flight attendants proactively distributing this form throughout the cabin.
For folks traveling in F and J who are already MPC members, they could still take this form and give it to friends or relatives who currently have no status with CX. And all that has to be done is fill in the application form, scan it and email it back to CX; and boom, they will see themselves becoming an MPC member very soon, no questions asked. This is a backdoor that allows people to get MPC membership without actually paying for the application fee. But I'm not sure if that form could still be as easily attained nowadays, especially after the MPC revamp.
For folks traveling in F and J who are already MPC members, they could still take this form and give it to friends or relatives who currently have no status with CX. And all that has to be done is fill in the application form, scan it and email it back to CX; and boom, they will see themselves becoming an MPC member very soon, no questions asked. This is a backdoor that allows people to get MPC membership without actually paying for the application fee. But I'm not sure if that form could still be as easily attained nowadays, especially after the MPC revamp.
(and for generous flyertalk members, please grab me one form if it is OK
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Jun 7, 2016, 5:39 am
#789
Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 498
I am on membership holiday but originally Silver status and flew HKG-KHH last week, I still see on my boarding pass showing my Silver status was given an upgrade to Biz and a lounge pass.
Isn't involuntary upgrade without lounge access? It is strange that i still receive one but I end up using the Pier as an OWE
On a side note it might be because i flew 30k miles and renew silver (prior to membership holiday/MPC changes) or its the day after my bday or becaz I was OWE with AA or they overbook.
Isn't involuntary upgrade without lounge access? It is strange that i still receive one but I end up using the Pier as an OWE
On a side note it might be because i flew 30k miles and renew silver (prior to membership holiday/MPC changes) or its the day after my bday or becaz I was OWE with AA or they overbook.
Jun 7, 2016, 6:52 am
#790
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 905
Elaborating on my previous post here.... I've only seen flight attendants actively distributing that form on a handful of flights, certainly not every single flight. So if no flight attendant walks around the cabin asking if anyone wants one of those forms on your flight, you might have to go ask for one from the galley.
On second thought, I wonder if the FA's might sense something fishy if they see you take this form and they remember that you are already an MPC member
But I bet they couldn't be bothered to play good Samaritan and do some clarification.
Jun 7, 2016, 6:47 pm
#793
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Hong Kong
Programs: CX, UA, Shangri-La, Hyatt, Starwood
Posts: 7,708
Jun 12, 2016, 2:43 am
#794
Join Date: Jul 2005
Programs: Hilton Diamond, Starwood Platinum, AA, SW, Delta
Posts: 885
I plan to fly from LAX to HKG first class round trip, was it always 180,000 asia miles? I remember last year when I checked it was 110,000 but not sure if i remembered incorrectly.