Yes you can

Sometimes you may be able to waitlist online... And if can't, USD40 sorry. No waiver will be given

Seat REwards
 

My Apologies if this has probably been covered...

I booked a PE return flight using my Asiamiles for 23 Dec London Heathrow-HK-Cebu 2017, Cebu-HK-London Heathrow 23 January 2018. The inbound flight is confirmed, but the outbound flight not yet. I put this flight on request back in May.

As a member, I have been in touch with Marco Polo Club several times however they are unable to tell me if the rewards seats for premium economy will open up at all. They are only able to tell me there are lots of paid seats available in PE. I would prefer to redeem my reward seat and I don't want to be in a position where it is 1 week before my departure date and I have no outbound flight yet! Does anyone have a similar experience? And any suggestions about how to solve this?

Lots. Calling doesn't help (per CX Secrets)

Thanks! This looks reasonable...I could also do the above and add 4 more outbound dates between 19-22 December to increase the odds :)

Hi percysmith,

I ran into similar situation as Gongzuokuang. I have booked a roundtrip award ticket with outbound waitlisted and inbound confirmed. I am also quite flexible in terms of outbound schedule, could be any of the CX flights within +/-1 day of my desired date.

I understand what you replied earlier about the one-way waitlist. My question is that: can I technically book additional R/T award to waitlist other outbound flights (assuming there are also other confirmed inbound availability), and just ticket the R/T PNR with cleared outbound and cancel the rest ? I guess it's not encouraged to book extra (inbound) confirmed flights that I don't intend to ticket all.

What would you do in this case? How can I use the flexibility to increase my chance here? Book additional outbound one-way waitlist, and maybe just do two one-ways if any of those becomes clear? Thanks in advance for your help.

If there's another flight slot with outbound confirmed (before your inbound, obviously), you can ticket that and rebook when (if) your desired outbound clears close-in.

You incur one cancellation fee if it doesn't.

You are encouraged to declare you'll be no-showing the outbound flight (you might as do it right away if there's no reasonable possibility you can travel that dummy outbound).

Can I trouble someone to help check loading for J on:

CX601 HKG to MLE on Dec 9, 2017
CX746 and CX738 DXB to HKG on Dec 23, 2017.

Am waitlisted for award tickets and want to gauge my chances. Thanks!

J4 i0
j1 i0
j9 i9

New to the points game. Want to use Amex miles for a J in SFO-HKG-HYD. Waitlisted for Nov 10 22:50 outbound CX893/CX649 and Nov 27 01:45 HYD-HKG-SFO inbound CX678/CX870. What are my chances for getting this confirmed and is there a way to increase the chances? Already spoke to Asia miles couple of times they could not do much to clear to confirmation except extending my ticketing deadline to Nov 7.

No doubt someone will post the expert flyer #s for seat sales shortly.

However, more conceptually (both now or any other time), be willing to break up the sectors. Aka look for SFO to HKG separately from HKG to HYD. It will help your chances further if you're willing to pay cash for one of the imbedded round trips (SFO HKG and HKG HYD). I presume the SFO sectors in biz are more important to you than the HYD sectors. Of course this breaking up method is a less efficient way to use miles but just throwing it out there. You could also add a stopover in HKG and that would give you some additional flexibility for award flights.

Although flights are limited to/from HYD, CX runs 3 daily flights to SFO. So be willing to move to a "less convenient" SFO timing if it's more open than the ones you originally booked to wait list. Ex HKG the SFO flights are CX870 (early afternoon departure), CX892 (early evening departure), and CX872 (midnight). Ex SFO the flights are CX879 (noontime), and CX893/873 (both midnight/latenight).

I'd say you don't have a good chance, especially on the outbound. Your SFO-HKG flight number and dep. don't match, so I looked up both for you.

Different Priority on Same Flight??

Few months ago, I booked one way flight HKG to TLV, dated June 2018, U class. It was confirmed immediatley but held the deadline to issue the ticket until tomorrow.

Few weeks ago, I booked the inbound flights, CDG to HKG and then KHH. Both were confirmed. However, when I added outbound flight KHH to HKG, it was on waiting list.
It was quite strange for me that I could see U class available online(KHH-HKG), but the MPC agent kept telling me it was not!

Today, I tried to book the KHH-HKG flight online. It was confirmed but not issued. Therefore, one booking reference was made. I phoned MPC for an explanation why I could book it confirmed, get a booking reference but they can't ?!

I was on hold for a while, and then told that one way (KHH-HKG) got higher priority than it was part of transitting journey (KHH-HKG-TLV). Thus, single KHH-HKG flight could get confirmed but as part of the journey couldnt!!

This was very weird and new to me. All 4 sections are operated by CX/KA. It means CX has entire control to all the flights. However, MPC just cant help.

Obviously my GO status doesnt work here, maybe DM does...

Thanks a lot for checking that! At least that helps to move ahead with other airlines options instead of waiting on this. Just learnt today I can use Chase > AlaskaAir as well on CX. Will call Alaska to see if they can give a confirmed ticket.

CX (Asia Miles) has the most inventory of anyone. It's their own airline! Asia Miles is 100pct owned by Cathay Pacific. If it's not available on Asia Miles, it definitely isn't available to Alaska. Alaska has noticeably worse award availability than CX Asia Miles, this I can confirm first hand.

I've also read reports here and on the blogs, but cannot provide actual experience, that Alaska has even worse inventory on CX than OneWorld partners like BA, AA, etc. (You can also book CX award tickets using other OneWorld carrier award programs like AA, BA, QF, etc. But the same principle holds....Asia Miles will have the best inventory). Based on this factor, the flow chart for CX award inventory availability is Asia Miles > OneWorld partners > Alaska.

The bottom line is if CX Asia Miles isn't making the award available, then it's not available anywhere else.

Very valuable information! This means that CX is now playing with MSC (Married Segment Control) with award fare classes, too. Previously award fare classes (Z, U, T, and X) were not subject to MSC. Since you are based in Taiwan (same here), you might have noticed that it is sometimes possible to get V class availability for, say, KHH-HKG-JFK, but not if you only look for HKG-JFK (perhaps only H class is available). Sometimes, it's the other way around. KHH-HKG-TLV is a more extreme case as KHH-HKG pushes the award from zone C to zone D (in fact, given the mileage requirement difference is 40k miles, I would recommend buying KHH-HKG with cash). However, if you look at KHH-HKG-CDG, the mileage requirement is the same whether KHH-HKG is included or not. This definitely gives CX an incentive to give more award seats to those redeeming HKG-CDG alone.

Yes, I know MSC but surprised it applies to reward ticket as well.
Anyway, it will get confirmed eventually because it is still a long way to go until next June, and U class is still "available" right now.
It just annoys me that I have to call MPC every two weeks to extend the deadline until it is cleaned...

I'm currently waitlisted along with a friend for CX889 (JFK-YVR) on 12/23 returning CX888 on 12/26. I'm waitlisted for J, my friend for F. We are booked via SPG in the Westin Whistler and need to cancel by 11/18. Cathay.com is showing 30+ seat available on both legs in J, is it safe to assume that the tickets will clear? I risk losing $1,100 if I don't show up for the SPG reservation. Any advice regarding this dilemma?

No, I won't assume so. No redemption, including upgrade, was available around 12/9-1/2 several years ago, although there were no official black out dates. The only chance was instant upgrade. However, things might have changed now, and you are only flying JFK-YVR. I think there is some chance but I would not plan for it. If CX is releasing seats, they may likely do that around mid-December.

I just checked. Loading for PEY, J and F seems light at this moment for CX889, but Y is quite full. However, I do expect CX to oversell Y and PEY causing J and F to eventually be quite full.

Not the answer I was hoping for but nonetheless thank you for your help!

Waitlist query
 

Hi everyone, so I had called Marco Polo yesterday for full redemption ticket (2x Business, 2x Econ)

Can anyone help me to check the loading and so i can guess and see if is possible to confirm the actual ticket earlier?

10 Mar 2018
CX 536 HKG to NGO

18 Mar 2018
CX 561 KIX to HKG

Thanks in advance, this is the first time I am going travel with my parents which I paid with all the expenses, so hopefully can have everything well planned

Doesn't look good. If you want everything well planned and can't get seats now, I suggest you either use priority award (more miles) or buy the tickets using cash.

Hey there,

Can anyone help me with the current loading and my chances for the following on which I am waitlist in J?

26th Nov:
BNE-HKG-BOS: CX156 and then CX812

02 Dec:
BOS-HKG-BNE: CX811 and then CX155.

Thank You!

Does not look good.

Thank You! I apologize for my ignorance, I understand some of these numbers, but is there a reference chart for the whole thing.

HKG - YVR
 

I'm currently waitlisted for CX888 and CX838 for Jan 8 and CX888, CX856 and CX838 for Jan 9. This is my first time using Asia Miles, and I've chosen standard Economy tickets. What are my chances to make it to one of the five flights? Any idea when it's likely that I will find out if I get a seat? Any thoughts would be highly appreciated!

Hey there,

Can anyone help me with the current loading and my chances for the following flights.. I am waitlisted for 2 people in both economy (X) and business (U), albeit via British Airways GGL line.

17th Nov:
HKG-BKK: CX709

Thank You!

Not sure what you are looking for, but I'm just posting the availability display. J, C, D, and I are classes in Business, and "L" means only waitlist is permitted. If it's sold out even for revenue tickets, the chance for getting an award seat is pretty slim.

Does not look good at all especially for the ones on 08JAN. This is when students go back, right, so flights should be pretty full.

By the way, CX888 has both HKG-YVR and YVR-JFK segment. I suppose you are only looking for the former, but just FYI.

Not good.

HKG - YVR
 

Thank you so much! Seems like 8JAN isn't going to happen. I'm still waitlisted for all three flights on 9JAN, am I right to understand that I have a decent chance for CX888 and CX856 on 9JAN? There seems to be a lot of open seats. I am looking to just go to YVR.

I believe CX will allow I class to be sold before considering releasing seats to U class (award). Also, please note that availability doesn't add up. In the first example, 6 seats total can be sold in business class, and only 4 of them can be sold in C class.

Ah I see, thanks for the clarification. Any idea when I should expect to hear back? I've seen posts that say they've gotten out of the waitlist days before their flights. Does it usually go down the wire like that, or can I expect to hear back sooner?

I can't comment on that, sorry. Others might be more experienced.

Ah. Thank you! So it's only the BNE-HKG route that is a problem, right? As I see some availability on the HKG-BOS route.

Could I trouble you for availability for this route (BNE-HKG-BNE) one day before (25th Nov and 1st Dec for return)?

I just mentioned this to another poster.

Looks better except for the BNE-HKG sector. Note that there's no CX155 on 02DEC.

Fingers crossed for all on the waitlist ... ernestnywang seems to be the person to ask!

I'm waitlisted for Premium Economy Heathrow-HK on 23 December CX238 and CX250. I'm already confirmed for the return flight on 25 Jan 2018. How are the 2 outbound flights looking for the waitlist?

I've been told by MarcoPolo that I'm on a priority waitlist - not sure how priority this is?

Anyone experience not getting their waitlist seat approved close to their flight? There may not be availability to fly if I don't get my outbound seat? What are the options at the moment?

According to EF, POS UK for 23/12:
CX 238: J9 C9 D9 I9 W9 R9 E2 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q7 O0
CX 250: F1 A0 J9 C9 D9 I9 W9 R9 E4 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q0 O0

Loading is not bad for now, but CX may be holding on until the last moment as that is peak holiday season. Good luck!

Thanks! Looks decent at the moment :) Although does CX offer discounted upgrade offers to economy passengers 48 hours before departure, like other carriers such as Emirates? It's been a new strategy as airlines try to increase their profit margins. Wondering if CX has applied this as well? And if so, do they have priority to upgrade to PE over the waitlist passengers?

They have been doing that all along. You can have a much better chance of getting seats released if you are a high-tier MPC member, but still difficult to say. Years ago, they did release "revenue seats" to awards for CX DMs on many routes almost instantly, but that hasn't been the case for the past 5-6 years. I guess $$$ still comes first.

Can anyone help to check award chances for waitlist 3x Biz, KA734, 13/March/2018

May have a chance...next time please provide origin and destination, too, so we don't have to first look that up.