Feb 6, 2021, 5:40 am
Last edit by: Prospero
This thread is the continuation of the discussion hosted in the BA Tier Point Runs | 2019-20 edition thread.
Useful tips and technical pointers
El_Duderito's explanation on fare routings and the maximum permitted distance you are allowed to travel (based on the distance between the origin and destination airports)
Helpful maps
The following series of maps show a 2,000 mile radius around each oneworld hub, useful for strategic planning purposes. Hopefully these will help your imagination to run free. Click on the images to reveal the accompanying maps.
EMEA
Asia Pacific
North America
Previous editions
BA Tier Point Runs | 2019-20 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | 2018 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | 2017 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | 2016 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | 2015 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | 2014 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | original edition
Useful tips and technical pointers
El_Duderito's explanation on fare routings and the maximum permitted distance you are allowed to travel (based on the distance between the origin and destination airports)
Helpful maps
The following series of maps show a 2,000 mile radius around each oneworld hub, useful for strategic planning purposes. Hopefully these will help your imagination to run free. Click on the images to reveal the accompanying maps.
EMEA
Asia Pacific
North America
Previous editions
BA Tier Point Runs | 2019-20 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | 2018 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | 2017 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | 2016 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | 2015 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | 2014 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | original edition
BA Tier Point Runs | 2021 edition
Jun 6, 2022, 9:52 am
#3346
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: Thailand
Programs: BA Silver (OWS), OZ Diamond (*G), TK Elite (*G), HH Diamond, Marriott Gold
Posts: 361
Still new to the jagon... if you mean BA metal then no, it's all AA and AY, BA only for the BUD-LHR and back
If you mean flight code, then yes except the PHX-LGB and back (unsurprisingly as it'a an AA subsidiary) and, more surprisingly, the PHX-JFK (while the JFK-PHX is on BA code). Weird, but not too worried by the Avios optimization
Also not sure about GUF, but none of the aircraft have proper first class, the AA domestic flights call "first" what is really a J product but that's another story. J itinerary also book in the AA "first" anyway for domestic
EDIT: sorry missed a point in the answer, I think you would only be able to upgrade F your LHR-JFK, unless AA uses different (and more premium) configs on the JFK-LAX-HNL, which wouldn't surprise me too much
If you mean flight code, then yes except the PHX-LGB and back (unsurprisingly as it'a an AA subsidiary) and, more surprisingly, the PHX-JFK (while the JFK-PHX is on BA code). Weird, but not too worried by the Avios optimization
Also not sure about GUF, but none of the aircraft have proper first class, the AA domestic flights call "first" what is really a J product but that's another story. J itinerary also book in the AA "first" anyway for domestic
EDIT: sorry missed a point in the answer, I think you would only be able to upgrade F your LHR-JFK, unless AA uses different (and more premium) configs on the JFK-LAX-HNL, which wouldn't surprise me too much
LHR-JFK has F and some AA transcons like JFK-LAX are operated with A321s with 1-1 F config so that's why I wanted to burn my expiring GuF on this one.
EDIT: Managed to book through BA after all and use a GUF to upgrade to F (with no additional taxes and fees?!?). Great success! Thanks OP!
Last edited by AnttiV; Jun 6, 2022 at 10:27 am Reason: Added booking success
Jun 6, 2022, 9:56 am
#3347
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 4,709
Which just happens to be where I am right now... Pushback in a few minutes.... Gosh the AA crew are different to AS though!
Jun 6, 2022, 10:04 am
#3348
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: LHR
Programs: OWE(BA Gold), *G (TAP), Skyteam Elite+(ITA)
Posts: 21
HI all,
I am trying to book this and powertools is giving me an option on American, or OTAs. Iberia or BA are not recognising the link i'm afraid. However, as I move through the AA booking screens and enter in my personal information I am getting an error saying: "Something went wrong. We are sorry for the inconvenience, we encountered an error processing your request. We are not able to confirm your selected flights. Please resubmit your request. (15079 - 421)"
Is there any way of circumventing this and forcing the booking, or am I missing something?
Thank you
Jun 6, 2022, 10:11 am
#3349
Join Date: Sep 2015
Programs: A3*G,BA Silver
Posts: 2,012
HI all,
I am trying to book this and powertools is giving me an option on American, or OTAs. Iberia or BA are not recognising the link i'm afraid. However, as I move through the AA booking screens and enter in my personal information I am getting an error saying: "Something went wrong. We are sorry for the inconvenience, we encountered an error processing your request. We are not able to confirm your selected flights. Please resubmit your request. (15079 - 421)"
Is there any way of circumventing this and forcing the booking, or am I missing something?
Thank you
I am trying to book this and powertools is giving me an option on American, or OTAs. Iberia or BA are not recognising the link i'm afraid. However, as I move through the AA booking screens and enter in my personal information I am getting an error saying: "Something went wrong. We are sorry for the inconvenience, we encountered an error processing your request. We are not able to confirm your selected flights. Please resubmit your request. (15079 - 421)"
Is there any way of circumventing this and forcing the booking, or am I missing something?
Thank you
Jun 6, 2022, 10:22 am
#3350
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: LHR
Programs: OWE(BA Gold), *G (TAP), Skyteam Elite+(ITA)
Posts: 21
Jun 6, 2022, 11:42 am
#3351
Join Date: May 2014
Location: BRU
Programs: BA GGL, TK E (*G), ITA exec
Posts: 4,105
By the way, I'm beginning to wonder how many FTers have already booked a BUD-HNL for next autumn/winter...
Jun 6, 2022, 12:00 pm
#3352
Join Date: Sep 2015
Programs: A3*G,BA Silver
Posts: 2,012
it’s a good value and you can get more than 2/3 of the TP to stay/become gold.
Jun 6, 2022, 12:12 pm
#3353
Join Date: Jun 2022
Programs: BA Gold
Posts: 125
Hi everyone! I've been stalking this section for quite some time but never booked anything myself... until today! Thanks for all the tips and ideas, I've settled on a TP run next easter from Budapest to Long Beach, and looking forward to my first time in Southern California
BUD - LHR - HEL - JFK - PHX - LGB
LGB - PHX - JFK - LHR - HEL - BUD
totalling 920TP per £1,360 (£1.47/TP)
(I have the screenshot but can't post pictures cause I'm new to the forum unfortunately)
BUD - LHR - HEL - JFK - PHX - LGB
LGB - PHX - JFK - LHR - HEL - BUD
totalling 920TP per £1,360 (£1.47/TP)
(I have the screenshot but can't post pictures cause I'm new to the forum unfortunately)
Since then I've been scouring these forums as well as checking out Matt Jones' great guide on YT I feel that I'm starting to get to grips with it.
I've recently started travelling a lot more for work but it's limited to the lower fare classes meaning chances of gaining status is unlikely. That being said a single tier point run could give me the benefits that would make 1+ years of travelling more enjoyable and less hassle.
I've attached my first searched itinerary below 👇
From my calculations this would come out at 720TP for £1,600+ which is no where as good as yours so I'm going to borrow a few of your ideas and see what I can do!
When playing around I found something similar to your route but couldn't get quite as good for some reason...
580tp (40 + 140 + 40 + 40 + 140 + 140 + 40)
Jun 6, 2022, 12:31 pm
#3354
Join Date: May 2014
Location: BRU
Programs: BA GGL, TK E (*G), ITA exec
Posts: 4,105
Jun 6, 2022, 12:45 pm
#3355
Join Date: Jun 2022
Location: Oxford, UK
Programs: BAEC
Posts: 132
Getting HEL into it was trickier than I thought, you need to split it up, essentially
BUD - HEL (via LHR) and HEL - LGB (via JFK,PHX)
otherwise I couldn't get it to work. For what I've seen it barely changes the price, if at all, and it's 160TP more
BUD - HEL (via LHR) and HEL - LGB (via JFK,PHX)
otherwise I couldn't get it to work. For what I've seen it barely changes the price, if at all, and it's 160TP more
Jun 6, 2022, 2:25 pm
#3356
Join Date: Jun 2022
Programs: BA Gold
Posts: 125
How do you do that in the ITA Matrix? Do you end up splitting it into 4 separate 'flights' taking adding the transfers within the routing codes?
Jun 6, 2022, 3:08 pm
#3357
Join Date: Jun 2022
Location: Oxford, UK
Programs: BAEC
Posts: 132
That's how I managed to do it, but I'm not an expert, there might be a quicker way. What I do know is that having BUD-LGB and the routing via LHR-HEL-JFK-PHX does not work
Jun 6, 2022, 3:10 pm
#3358
Join Date: Jun 2022
Location: Oxford, UK
Programs: BAEC
Posts: 132
Also, the previous one was my fifth post, so here you go!
Jun 6, 2022, 4:33 pm
#3359
Join Date: Jun 2022
Programs: BA Gold
Posts: 125
Congrats on reaching the milestone! I hit my fifth yesterday.
There must be something I'm getting wrong in the ITA matrix because I copied your itinerary perfectly and when I forced the routing codes it said that no flights were available.
Then when I took them out I at least find a route but the price absolutely sky rockets!
There must be something I'm getting wrong in the ITA matrix because I copied your itinerary perfectly and when I forced the routing codes it said that no flights were available.
Then when I took them out I at least find a route but the price absolutely sky rockets!
Jun 6, 2022, 4:39 pm
#3360
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: WAW ✈ LHR ✈ GLA
Programs: BA GfL/GGL/CCR, HH Diamond, IHG Diamond Ambassador
Posts: 2,502
Congrats on reaching the milestone! I hit my fifth yesterday.
There must be something I'm getting wrong in the ITA matrix because I copied your itinerary perfectly and when I forced the routing codes it said that no flights were available.
Then when I took them out I at least find a route but the price absolutely sky rockets!
There must be something I'm getting wrong in the ITA matrix because I copied your itinerary perfectly and when I forced the routing codes it said that no flights were available.
Then when I took them out I at least find a route but the price absolutely sky rockets!