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This thread is the continuation of the discussion hosted in the BA Tier Point Runs | 2019-20 edition thread.
Useful tips and technical pointers
El_Duderito's explanation on fare routings and the maximum permitted distance you are allowed to travel (based on the distance between the origin and destination airports)
Helpful maps
The following series of maps show a 2,000 mile radius around each oneworld hub, useful for strategic planning purposes. Hopefully these will help your imagination to run free. Click on the images to reveal the accompanying maps.
EMEA
Asia Pacific
North America
Previous editions
BA Tier Point Runs | 2019-20 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | 2018 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | 2017 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | 2016 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | 2015 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | 2014 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | original edition
Useful tips and technical pointers
El_Duderito's explanation on fare routings and the maximum permitted distance you are allowed to travel (based on the distance between the origin and destination airports)
Helpful maps
The following series of maps show a 2,000 mile radius around each oneworld hub, useful for strategic planning purposes. Hopefully these will help your imagination to run free. Click on the images to reveal the accompanying maps.
EMEA
Asia Pacific
North America
Previous editions
BA Tier Point Runs | 2019-20 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | 2018 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | 2017 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | 2016 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | 2015 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | 2014 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | original edition
BA Tier Point Runs | 2021 edition
#3256
Join Date: Feb 2019
Location: UK. West Sussex
Programs: BAEC. Gold
Posts: 786
Eg Heathrow to Sofia
Plus 5 nights hotel can be had for under £600
160tp plus 160 bonus = 320
Then another one to Bucharest or Catania
(Obviously avoid August) and school holidays
Potentially 640 points for £1200
(Inc accommodation)
No need to worry about missed connections or expensive US hotels
#3257
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Wolverhampton
Programs: BA Silver, Hilton Diamond, Marriot Gold, Radisson Gold, Amex Platinum
Posts: 1,608
When I looked at the BA holidays to the likes of Sofia, it seemed to be at ski resorts, are those practical to get to? (I assume BA holidays don't provide a free transfer).
#3258
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Istanbul, Turkey
Programs: TK Elite Plus,BAEC GGL,ITA Executive, AFKL Gold,QR Gold,HH Diamond,Bonvoy Gold,ALL Gold
Posts: 14,186
If you book a ski resort nearby, BA would not provide a transfer. However, there are coach bus services to Bankso and major ski resorts from downtown Sofia.
#3259
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: London(ish)
Programs: BA Gold
Posts: 569
Hi all.
I am looking to achieve 165 or 200 tier points after October 8th this year.
I cant make anything work without being either too expensive too little/too many Tier Points.
Are there any routings to achieve this?
It cant include double points but can include one or two nights away.
Thanks in advance.
I am looking to achieve 165 or 200 tier points after October 8th this year.
I cant make anything work without being either too expensive too little/too many Tier Points.
Are there any routings to achieve this?
It cant include double points but can include one or two nights away.
Thanks in advance.
#3260
Join Date: Mar 2015
Programs: BA Gold and Virgin Gold, HH Diamond
Posts: 42
Can someone point me in the direction of the thread for best current BA TP runs. TIA
#3261
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: London, UK
Programs: BA GGL, HHonors Diamond
Posts: 910
Hi all.
I am looking to achieve 165 or 200 tier points after October 8th this year.
I cant make anything work without being either too expensive too little/too many Tier Points.
Are there any routings to achieve this?
It cant include double points but can include one or two nights away.
Thanks in advance.
I am looking to achieve 165 or 200 tier points after October 8th this year.
I cant make anything work without being either too expensive too little/too many Tier Points.
Are there any routings to achieve this?
It cant include double points but can include one or two nights away.
Thanks in advance.
Also, I'm confused as to how you need 165 or 200?
#3263
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: London(ish)
Programs: BA Gold
Posts: 569
Good question.
Basically I'm about to book a 1 way to MAD in Y for 5 TP's but dependant on what I find I may or may not ned the extra 35 tier points to upgrade to Club Europe. It's quite expensive.
#3266
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: London
Programs: BA Silver
Posts: 1,282
Hi all.
I am looking to achieve 165 or 200 tier points after October 8th this year.
I cant make anything work without being either too expensive too little/too many Tier Points.
Are there any routings to achieve this?
It cant include double points but can include one or two nights away.
Thanks in advance.
I am looking to achieve 165 or 200 tier points after October 8th this year.
I cant make anything work without being either too expensive too little/too many Tier Points.
Are there any routings to achieve this?
It cant include double points but can include one or two nights away.
Thanks in advance.
#3267
Join Date: Feb 2019
Location: Offshore
Programs: BA Gold
Posts: 26
I booked DUB-LHR-BOS-PHX-LAX and return LAX-PHX-BOS-LHR-DUB for £1500 in Club/American 1st) for 720 tier points in mid August 22. A380 both ways , weeeee!
Had to book on AA from ITA Matrix as the BA site is very poor and wouldn't let me book AA flights, errors all over the place . Anyway to cut a long story short, the AA booking now appears on my BA page BUT missing two legs, LAX-PHX and PHX-BOS. And BA show it as 540 tier points so deffo two flights missing.
Full schedule on AA but missing two legs on BA. BA can't help, there's a surprise, so have emailed AA and still waiting for a reply. Given I need those 180 points, to retain Gold am I resigned to arguing about it after the event with BA or any suggestions on fixing it ?
I have to say the BA site is not very good, my flight booking come and go, and now this and so on... IT is BA is notoriously bad I hear.
Screenshot below ( price has marginally increased)
Had to book on AA from ITA Matrix as the BA site is very poor and wouldn't let me book AA flights, errors all over the place . Anyway to cut a long story short, the AA booking now appears on my BA page BUT missing two legs, LAX-PHX and PHX-BOS. And BA show it as 540 tier points so deffo two flights missing.
Full schedule on AA but missing two legs on BA. BA can't help, there's a surprise, so have emailed AA and still waiting for a reply. Given I need those 180 points, to retain Gold am I resigned to arguing about it after the event with BA or any suggestions on fixing it ?
I have to say the BA site is not very good, my flight booking come and go, and now this and so on... IT is BA is notoriously bad I hear.
Screenshot below ( price has marginally increased)
#3268
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Istanbul, Turkey
Programs: TK Elite Plus,BAEC GGL,ITA Executive, AFKL Gold,QR Gold,HH Diamond,Bonvoy Gold,ALL Gold
Posts: 14,186
I booked DUB-LHR-BOS-PHX-LAX and return LAX-PHX-BOS-LHR-DUB for £1500 in Club/American 1st) for 720 tier points in mid August 22. A380 both ways , weeeee!
Had to book on AA from ITA Matrix as the BA site is very poor and wouldn't let me book AA flights, errors all over the place . Anyway to cut a long story short, the AA booking now appears on my BA page BUT missing two legs, LAX-PHX and PHX-BOS. And BA show it as 540 tier points so deffo two flights missing.
Full schedule on AA but missing two legs on BA. BA can't help, there's a surprise, so have emailed AA and still waiting for a reply. Given I need those 180 points, to retain Gold am I resigned to arguing about it after the event with BA or any suggestions on fixing it ?
I have to say the BA site is not very good, my flight booking come and go, and now this and so on... IT is BA is notoriously bad I hear.
Screenshot below ( price has marginally increased)
Had to book on AA from ITA Matrix as the BA site is very poor and wouldn't let me book AA flights, errors all over the place . Anyway to cut a long story short, the AA booking now appears on my BA page BUT missing two legs, LAX-PHX and PHX-BOS. And BA show it as 540 tier points so deffo two flights missing.
Full schedule on AA but missing two legs on BA. BA can't help, there's a surprise, so have emailed AA and still waiting for a reply. Given I need those 180 points, to retain Gold am I resigned to arguing about it after the event with BA or any suggestions on fixing it ?
I have to say the BA site is not very good, my flight booking come and go, and now this and so on... IT is BA is notoriously bad I hear.
Screenshot below ( price has marginally increased)
There is nothing to worry about and you would get the full TP's for all the itinerary. American Airlines uses Sabre and British Airways uses Amadeus as booking partners so the synchronization between the two systems are not perfect.
#3269
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Vale of Glamorgan
Programs: BAEC Gold
Posts: 2,992
Anyway to cut a long story short, the AA booking now appears on my BA page BUT missing two legs, LAX-PHX and PHX-BOS. And BA show it as 540 tier points so deffo two flights missing.
Full schedule on AA but missing two legs on BA. BA can't help, there's a surprise, so have emailed AA and still waiting for a reply. Given I need those 180 points, to retain Gold am I resigned to arguing about it after the event with BA or any suggestions on fixing it ?
Full schedule on AA but missing two legs on BA. BA can't help, there's a surprise, so have emailed AA and still waiting for a reply. Given I need those 180 points, to retain Gold am I resigned to arguing about it after the event with BA or any suggestions on fixing it ?
#3270
Join Date: Jun 2018
Programs: BAEC Gold
Posts: 6
Would value thoughts on this. I've priced up an itinerary on matrix (BUD-LIH-BUD) for next April. The fare bucket is J + I, price is roughly 3750 GBP (1,745,000 HUF) for 3 people (2 adults, 1 child). Fare basis is AA INX1C8S4 in both directions. I've spoken with AA several times today to try to get this ticketed, but they keep telling me that they do not see any I inventory on certain segments and the one time they found J + I on the outbound legs it pushed all the return legs into R and therefore way above the Matrix quoted price. When the sales agent (who was very helpful and patient) went to colleagues in the fare team, the response was that something is happening to push the return legs such that I cannot be utilized, but they were unable to specify what. One of the agents did mention that the fare team said that there can be published and unpublished fares, which would seem to suggest that the Matrix fares are unpublished as the fare team and agent said only published fares are able to be selected when trying to price/ticket.
When looking through the fare rules, neither the agent nor I could find anything that would seem to preclude the combination. Matrix has been returning these fares consistently over the past 7-10 days across a variety of travel dates that I have looked at, so if it's a mistake it's a persistent one.
Has anyone run into this type of issue with Hawaii (or other) - related flights? If so, any guidance? Any thoughts on how to ticket on BA as I tried them, as well, but they insisted that they couldn't force the AA flight numbers on BA-operated legs). Eager to book these, but it's unclear if they're phantom fare combos or what. Thanks for any assistance.
ITINERARY
Budapest (BUD) to Lihue (LIH) - Wed, Apr 5
American 6600 Dep: 7:20AM Arr: 9:05AM 2h 45m Airbus A320 Business (J)
OPERATED BY BRITISH AIRWAYS
Layover in LHR 2h 10m
American 6964 Dep: 11:15AM Arr: 1:35PM 7h 20m Airbus A380 Business (I)
OPERATED BY BRITISH AIRWAYS
Layover in BOS 7h 0m
American 2110 Dep: 8:35PM Arr: 11:43PM 6h 8m Airbus A321 (Sharklets) Business (I)
Layover in LAX 9h 47m
American 265 Dep: 9:30AM Arr: 12:21PM 5h 51m Airbus A321neo First (I)
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Lihue (LIH) to Budapest (BUD) - Tue, Apr 18
American 266 Dep: 1:00PM Arr: 9:33PM 5h 33m Airbus A321neo First (I)
Layover in LAX 10h 27m
American 1632 Dep: 8:00AM Arr: 4:36PM 5h 36m Airbus A321 (Sharklets) Business (I)
Layover in BOS 2h 39m
American 6963 Dep: 7:15PM Arr: 6:50AM 6h 35m Airbus A380 Business (I)
OPERATED BY BRITISH AIRWAYS
Layover in LHR Thu, Apr 20 3h 0m
American 6601 Dep: 9:50AM Arr: 1:25PM 2h 35m Airbus A320 Business (I)
OPERATED BY BRITISH AIRWAYS
FARE AND BOOKING DETAILS
Provide this information to a travel agent to help them match the fares found.
Make sure to provide the exact booking and fare codes shown.
Fare for 2 adults
Fare 1: Carrier AA INX1C8S4 BUD to LIH HUF 209,264.00
Passenger type ADT, round trip fare, booking code J, I
Covers BUD-LHR (Business), LHR-BOS (Business), BOS-LAX (Business), LAX-LIH (First)
Fare 2: Carrier AA INX1C8S4 LIH to BUD HUF 209,264.00
Passenger type ADT, round trip fare, booking code I
Covers LIH-LAX (First), LAX-BOS (Business), BOS-LHR (Business), LHR-BUD (Business)
When looking through the fare rules, neither the agent nor I could find anything that would seem to preclude the combination. Matrix has been returning these fares consistently over the past 7-10 days across a variety of travel dates that I have looked at, so if it's a mistake it's a persistent one.
Has anyone run into this type of issue with Hawaii (or other) - related flights? If so, any guidance? Any thoughts on how to ticket on BA as I tried them, as well, but they insisted that they couldn't force the AA flight numbers on BA-operated legs). Eager to book these, but it's unclear if they're phantom fare combos or what. Thanks for any assistance.
ITINERARY
Budapest (BUD) to Lihue (LIH) - Wed, Apr 5
American 6600 Dep: 7:20AM Arr: 9:05AM 2h 45m Airbus A320 Business (J)
OPERATED BY BRITISH AIRWAYS
Layover in LHR 2h 10m
American 6964 Dep: 11:15AM Arr: 1:35PM 7h 20m Airbus A380 Business (I)
OPERATED BY BRITISH AIRWAYS
Layover in BOS 7h 0m
American 2110 Dep: 8:35PM Arr: 11:43PM 6h 8m Airbus A321 (Sharklets) Business (I)
Layover in LAX 9h 47m
American 265 Dep: 9:30AM Arr: 12:21PM 5h 51m Airbus A321neo First (I)
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Lihue (LIH) to Budapest (BUD) - Tue, Apr 18
American 266 Dep: 1:00PM Arr: 9:33PM 5h 33m Airbus A321neo First (I)
Layover in LAX 10h 27m
American 1632 Dep: 8:00AM Arr: 4:36PM 5h 36m Airbus A321 (Sharklets) Business (I)
Layover in BOS 2h 39m
American 6963 Dep: 7:15PM Arr: 6:50AM 6h 35m Airbus A380 Business (I)
OPERATED BY BRITISH AIRWAYS
Layover in LHR Thu, Apr 20 3h 0m
American 6601 Dep: 9:50AM Arr: 1:25PM 2h 35m Airbus A320 Business (I)
OPERATED BY BRITISH AIRWAYS
FARE AND BOOKING DETAILS
Provide this information to a travel agent to help them match the fares found.
Make sure to provide the exact booking and fare codes shown.
Fare for 2 adults
Fare 1: Carrier AA INX1C8S4 BUD to LIH HUF 209,264.00
Passenger type ADT, round trip fare, booking code J, I
Covers BUD-LHR (Business), LHR-BOS (Business), BOS-LAX (Business), LAX-LIH (First)
Fare 2: Carrier AA INX1C8S4 LIH to BUD HUF 209,264.00
Passenger type ADT, round trip fare, booking code I
Covers LIH-LAX (First), LAX-BOS (Business), BOS-LHR (Business), LHR-BUD (Business)
Last edited by nomadicted; May 28, 2022 at 11:49 am