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This thread is the continuation of the discussion hosted in the BA Tier Point Runs | 2019-20 edition thread.
Useful tips and technical pointers
El_Duderito's explanation on fare routings and the maximum permitted distance you are allowed to travel (based on the distance between the origin and destination airports)
Helpful maps
The following series of maps show a 2,000 mile radius around each oneworld hub, useful for strategic planning purposes. Hopefully these will help your imagination to run free. Click on the images to reveal the accompanying maps.
EMEA
Asia Pacific
North America
Previous editions
BA Tier Point Runs | 2019-20 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | 2018 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | 2017 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | 2016 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | 2015 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | 2014 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | original edition
Useful tips and technical pointers
El_Duderito's explanation on fare routings and the maximum permitted distance you are allowed to travel (based on the distance between the origin and destination airports)
Helpful maps
The following series of maps show a 2,000 mile radius around each oneworld hub, useful for strategic planning purposes. Hopefully these will help your imagination to run free. Click on the images to reveal the accompanying maps.
EMEA
Asia Pacific
North America
Previous editions
BA Tier Point Runs | 2019-20 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | 2018 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | 2017 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | 2016 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | 2015 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | 2014 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | original edition
BA Tier Point Runs | 2021 edition
#3271
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: London, UK
Programs: BAEC
Posts: 3,440
Just looking for opinions on the cheapest way to earn 40TPs. I don’t want to stay overnight (which increases prices) and I would need to go at the weekend.
Any ideas?
Any ideas?
#3272
Join Date: Feb 2019
Location: UK. West Sussex
Programs: BAEC. Gold
Posts: 786
out early morning. Back late evening
CE one way and Economy the other
Plenty of places
Luxembourg is usually cheap
Bordeaux. Dublin, Glasgow Edinburgh, Manchester etc
The list goes on
#3273
Join Date: Feb 2019
Location: UK. West Sussex
Programs: BAEC. Gold
Posts: 786
Example
LGW to Bordeaux
Sat June 11th
Out early in business
Back in economy
£166
LGW to Bordeaux
Sat June 11th
Out early in business
Back in economy
£166
#3274
Join Date: Jan 2022
Programs: BAEC
Posts: 1,471
Would value thoughts on this. I've priced up an itinerary on matrix (BUD-LIH-BUD) for next April. The fare bucket is J + I, price is roughly 3750 GBP (1,745,000 HUF) for 3 people (2 adults, 1 child). Fare basis is AA INX1C8S4 in both directions. I've spoken with AA several times today to try to get this ticketed, but they keep telling me that they do not see any I inventory on certain segments and the one time they found J + I on the outbound legs it pushed all the return legs into R and therefore way above the Matrix quoted price. When the sales agent (who was very helpful and patient) went to colleagues in the fare team, the response was that something is happening to push the return legs such that I cannot be utilized, but they were unable to specify what. One of the agents did mention that the fare team said that there can be published and unpublished fares, which would seem to suggest that the Matrix fares are unpublished as the fare team and agent said only published fares are able to be selected when trying to price/ticket.
When looking through the fare rules, neither the agent nor I could find anything that would seem to preclude the combination. Matrix has been returning these fares consistently over the past 7-10 days across a variety of travel dates that I have looked at, so if it's a mistake it's a persistent one.
Has anyone run into this type of issue with Hawaii (or other) - related flights? If so, any guidance? Any thoughts on how to ticket on BA as I tried them, as well, but they insisted that they couldn't force the AA flight numbers on BA-operated legs). Eager to book these, but it's unclear if they're phantom fare combos or what. Thanks for any assistance.
ITINERARY
Budapest (BUD) to Lihue (LIH) - Wed, Apr 5
American 6600 Dep: 7:20AM Arr: 9:05AM 2h 45m Airbus A320 Business (J)
OPERATED BY BRITISH AIRWAYS
Layover in LHR 2h 10m
American 6964 Dep: 11:15AM Arr: 1:35PM 7h 20m Airbus A380 Business (I)
OPERATED BY BRITISH AIRWAYS
Layover in BOS 7h 0m
American 2110 Dep: 8:35PM Arr: 11:43PM 6h 8m Airbus A321 (Sharklets) Business (I)
Layover in LAX 9h 47m
American 265 Dep: 9:30AM Arr: 12:21PM 5h 51m Airbus A321neo First (I)
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Lihue (LIH) to Budapest (BUD) - Tue, Apr 18
American 266 Dep: 1:00PM Arr: 9:33PM 5h 33m Airbus A321neo First (I)
Layover in LAX 10h 27m
American 1632 Dep: 8:00AM Arr: 4:36PM 5h 36m Airbus A321 (Sharklets) Business (I)
Layover in BOS 2h 39m
American 6963 Dep: 7:15PM Arr: 6:50AM 6h 35m Airbus A380 Business (I)
OPERATED BY BRITISH AIRWAYS
Layover in LHR Thu, Apr 20 3h 0m
American 6601 Dep: 9:50AM Arr: 1:25PM 2h 35m Airbus A320 Business (I)
OPERATED BY BRITISH AIRWAYS
FARE AND BOOKING DETAILS
Provide this information to a travel agent to help them match the fares found.
Make sure to provide the exact booking and fare codes shown.
Fare for 2 adults
Fare 1: Carrier AA INX1C8S4 BUD to LIH HUF 209,264.00
Passenger type ADT, round trip fare, booking code J, I
Covers BUD-LHR (Business), LHR-BOS (Business), BOS-LAX (Business), LAX-LIH (First)
Fare 2: Carrier AA INX1C8S4 LIH to BUD HUF 209,264.00
Passenger type ADT, round trip fare, booking code I
Covers LIH-LAX (First), LAX-BOS (Business), BOS-LHR (Business), LHR-BUD (Business)
When looking through the fare rules, neither the agent nor I could find anything that would seem to preclude the combination. Matrix has been returning these fares consistently over the past 7-10 days across a variety of travel dates that I have looked at, so if it's a mistake it's a persistent one.
Has anyone run into this type of issue with Hawaii (or other) - related flights? If so, any guidance? Any thoughts on how to ticket on BA as I tried them, as well, but they insisted that they couldn't force the AA flight numbers on BA-operated legs). Eager to book these, but it's unclear if they're phantom fare combos or what. Thanks for any assistance.
ITINERARY
Budapest (BUD) to Lihue (LIH) - Wed, Apr 5
American 6600 Dep: 7:20AM Arr: 9:05AM 2h 45m Airbus A320 Business (J)
OPERATED BY BRITISH AIRWAYS
Layover in LHR 2h 10m
American 6964 Dep: 11:15AM Arr: 1:35PM 7h 20m Airbus A380 Business (I)
OPERATED BY BRITISH AIRWAYS
Layover in BOS 7h 0m
American 2110 Dep: 8:35PM Arr: 11:43PM 6h 8m Airbus A321 (Sharklets) Business (I)
Layover in LAX 9h 47m
American 265 Dep: 9:30AM Arr: 12:21PM 5h 51m Airbus A321neo First (I)
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Lihue (LIH) to Budapest (BUD) - Tue, Apr 18
American 266 Dep: 1:00PM Arr: 9:33PM 5h 33m Airbus A321neo First (I)
Layover in LAX 10h 27m
American 1632 Dep: 8:00AM Arr: 4:36PM 5h 36m Airbus A321 (Sharklets) Business (I)
Layover in BOS 2h 39m
American 6963 Dep: 7:15PM Arr: 6:50AM 6h 35m Airbus A380 Business (I)
OPERATED BY BRITISH AIRWAYS
Layover in LHR Thu, Apr 20 3h 0m
American 6601 Dep: 9:50AM Arr: 1:25PM 2h 35m Airbus A320 Business (I)
OPERATED BY BRITISH AIRWAYS
FARE AND BOOKING DETAILS
Provide this information to a travel agent to help them match the fares found.
Make sure to provide the exact booking and fare codes shown.
Fare for 2 adults
Fare 1: Carrier AA INX1C8S4 BUD to LIH HUF 209,264.00
Passenger type ADT, round trip fare, booking code J, I
Covers BUD-LHR (Business), LHR-BOS (Business), BOS-LAX (Business), LAX-LIH (First)
Fare 2: Carrier AA INX1C8S4 LIH to BUD HUF 209,264.00
Passenger type ADT, round trip fare, booking code I
Covers LIH-LAX (First), LAX-BOS (Business), BOS-LHR (Business), LHR-BUD (Business)
If none of that works, you might try slightly different routings like BUD LHR JFK LAX LIH or similar. Or maybe going through SFO or DFW or PHX.
And we’ll done for getting the family to agree to one of these insane runs!!!
Last edited by RichieMc; May 28, 2022 at 1:36 pm
#3275
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Kent, UK
Programs: BA Gold; Virgin FF; United Airlines; American Airlines; and was frequent c/c churner - RIP!
Posts: 945
I booked DUB-LHR-BOS-PHX-LAX and return LAX-PHX-BOS-LHR-DUB for £1500 in Club/American 1st) for 720 tier points in mid August 22. A380 both ways , weeeee!
Had to book on AA from ITA Matrix as the BA site is very poor and wouldn't let me book AA flights, errors all over the place . Anyway to cut a long story short, the AA booking now appears on my BA page BUT missing two legs, LAX-PHX and PHX-BOS. And BA show it as 540 tier points so deffo two flights missing.
Full schedule on AA but missing two legs on BA. BA can't help, there's a surprise, so have emailed AA and still waiting for a reply. Given I need those 180 points, to retain Gold am I resigned to arguing about it after the event with BA or any suggestions on fixing it ?
I have to say the BA site is not very good, my flight booking come and go, and now this and so on... IT is BA is notoriously bad I hear.
Screenshot below ( price has marginally increased)
Had to book on AA from ITA Matrix as the BA site is very poor and wouldn't let me book AA flights, errors all over the place . Anyway to cut a long story short, the AA booking now appears on my BA page BUT missing two legs, LAX-PHX and PHX-BOS. And BA show it as 540 tier points so deffo two flights missing.
Full schedule on AA but missing two legs on BA. BA can't help, there's a surprise, so have emailed AA and still waiting for a reply. Given I need those 180 points, to retain Gold am I resigned to arguing about it after the event with BA or any suggestions on fixing it ?
I have to say the BA site is not very good, my flight booking come and go, and now this and so on... IT is BA is notoriously bad I hear.
Screenshot below ( price has marginally increased)
Thanks for the heads up!
#3276
Join Date: Jan 2022
Programs: BAEC
Posts: 1,471
I thought that this TPR would have had to be booked 180 days ahead, but delighted to see that there are plenty of dates in August available at the same price for booking now. Am seriously tempted to book to get to Gold, plus the lure of A380s is hard to resist.
Thanks for the heads up!
Thanks for the heads up!
#3277
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: UK
Programs: BA GfL & GGL, FB Platinum, MB Titanium, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 2,403
The only issue for me is that the US domestic segments are in standard recliner seats especially the 5+ hours flights.
#3278
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Kent, UK
Programs: BA Gold; Virgin FF; United Airlines; American Airlines; and was frequent c/c churner - RIP!
Posts: 945
#3280
Join Date: Jun 2018
Programs: BAEC Gold
Posts: 6
I’d use powertools to book directly on aa.com. Alternatively, was there really no close equivalent with a BA fare? In general BA is better at booking these things in my experience. Otherwise powertools to aa.com has usually worked.
If none of that works, you might try slightly different routings like BUD LHR JFK LAX LIH or similar. Or maybe going through SFO or DFW or PHX.
And we’ll done for getting the family to agree to one of these insane runs!!!
If none of that works, you might try slightly different routings like BUD LHR JFK LAX LIH or similar. Or maybe going through SFO or DFW or PHX.
And we’ll done for getting the family to agree to one of these insane runs!!!
The lure of Hawaii appears enough to sway them, let's see what they say when we're actually wheels up on several of these legs. Fingers crossed.
Thanks again!
#3281
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 278
Can anyone suggest a good Tier Point calculator site - there used to be a very good one based on a speadsheet by someone called Tom I think but can't find it now ... any ideas
#3282
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: BER
Programs: BA GGL, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 1,843
#3283
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Vale of Glamorgan
Programs: BAEC Gold
Posts: 2,992
Is there a reason why you don't use the one on ba.com? It's reliable, and doesn't have the adverts, pop-ups and possible security issues that other sites might.
#3284
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: United Kingdom
Programs: Bonvoy LTTitanium, BAEC Silver
Posts: 591
Hey all,
My membership year ends on 8 October and so I'm looking to rack up 450 TPs as soon as my new membership year starts on 9 October which would give me Silver status for the rest of that membership year and the year after. Would appreciate if someone could check my plan and let me know if there are any flaws.
11 October - ABZ - LHR (Economy) = 5 TPs
12-17 October - LHR - SOF return (5 night BA holiday flying in Business Class - double points) = 320 TPs
18 October - LHR - SOF (Economy) = 10 TPs
20 October - SOF - NEW via LHR (Business) = 120 TPs
Total 455 Tier Points at a cost of £642 plus an overnight stay at LHR on 11 October and 2 nights in SOF on 18 October
Thanks!
My membership year ends on 8 October and so I'm looking to rack up 450 TPs as soon as my new membership year starts on 9 October which would give me Silver status for the rest of that membership year and the year after. Would appreciate if someone could check my plan and let me know if there are any flaws.
11 October - ABZ - LHR (Economy) = 5 TPs
12-17 October - LHR - SOF return (5 night BA holiday flying in Business Class - double points) = 320 TPs
18 October - LHR - SOF (Economy) = 10 TPs
20 October - SOF - NEW via LHR (Business) = 120 TPs
Total 455 Tier Points at a cost of £642 plus an overnight stay at LHR on 11 October and 2 nights in SOF on 18 October
Thanks!
#3285
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Vale of Glamorgan
Programs: BAEC Gold
Posts: 2,992
Hey all,
My membership year ends on 8 October and so I'm looking to rack up 450 TPs as soon as my new membership year starts on 9 October which would give me Silver status for the rest of that membership year and the year after. Would appreciate if someone could check my plan and let me know if there are any flaws.
11 October - ABZ - LHR (Economy) = 5 TPs
12-17 October - LHR - SOF return (5 night BA holiday flying in Business Class - double points) = 320 TPs
18 October - LHR - SOF (Economy) = 10 TPs
20 October - SOF - NEW via LHR (Business) = 120 TPs
My membership year ends on 8 October and so I'm looking to rack up 450 TPs as soon as my new membership year starts on 9 October which would give me Silver status for the rest of that membership year and the year after. Would appreciate if someone could check my plan and let me know if there are any flaws.
11 October - ABZ - LHR (Economy) = 5 TPs
12-17 October - LHR - SOF return (5 night BA holiday flying in Business Class - double points) = 320 TPs
18 October - LHR - SOF (Economy) = 10 TPs
20 October - SOF - NEW via LHR (Business) = 120 TPs