BA to cut up to 12,000 jobs in "restructuring and redundancy programme"
Jun 9, 2020, 1:36 pm
#1532
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Just like your comments on BA plants
Jun 9, 2020, 2:16 pm
#1533
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And how would you describe threatening to go on strike over Christmas holidays with the specific intention of ruining as many peoples holidays as possible?
Jun 9, 2020, 2:44 pm
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Besides, I hope you're realising the ridiculousness of matching this with people losing their livelihoods, right?
Jun 9, 2020, 3:15 pm
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Regarding your second point, I am not suggesting that you can compare losing a holiday with losing a job. However, in my opinion, most people would consider calling industrial action at a point intended to cause maximum disruption to members of the public was at best an underhand tactic, and falls well within the defenition of gratuitously nasty.
Jun 9, 2020, 3:32 pm
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I didn't say a strike was held on Christmas, I sad it was threatened. I believe this was during the MF dispute where UNITE called a strike over christmas, but it was stayed by the courts, due to irregularities in the balloting process.
Regarding your second point, I am not suggesting that you can compare losing a holiday with losing a job. However, in my opinion, most people would consider calling industrial action at a point intended to cause maximum disruption to members of the public was at best an underhand tactic, and falls well within the defenition of gratuitously nasty.
Regarding your second point, I am not suggesting that you can compare losing a holiday with losing a job. However, in my opinion, most people would consider calling industrial action at a point intended to cause maximum disruption to members of the public was at best an underhand tactic, and falls well within the defenition of gratuitously nasty.
Jun 9, 2020, 5:42 pm
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MPs propose taking away BA's Heathrow slots over job cuts
Several British Members of Parliament, including the chairman of the Transport Select Committee, Huw Merriman, have called for the government to penalise British Airways (BA, London Heathrow) for job cuts by taking away the carrier's coveted slots at London Heathrow.
"Many of us are concerned that companies are using this pandemic as a justification to slash jobs and employment terms. Step forward British Airways... Will the Department [of Transport] ask the Civil Aviation Authority to undertake an urgent review into reallocating lucrative landing slots at Heathrow from companies like British Airways, who indicate they are downsizing, and perhaps hand those to those companies that wish to expand and take on workers?", Merriman asked during a parliamentary sitting.
https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/n...-over-job-cuts
Several British Members of Parliament, including the chairman of the Transport Select Committee, Huw Merriman, have called for the government to penalise British Airways (BA, London Heathrow) for job cuts by taking away the carrier's coveted slots at London Heathrow.
"Many of us are concerned that companies are using this pandemic as a justification to slash jobs and employment terms. Step forward British Airways... Will the Department [of Transport] ask the Civil Aviation Authority to undertake an urgent review into reallocating lucrative landing slots at Heathrow from companies like British Airways, who indicate they are downsizing, and perhaps hand those to those companies that wish to expand and take on workers?", Merriman asked during a parliamentary sitting.
https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/n...-over-job-cuts
Jun 9, 2020, 6:20 pm
#1539
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I didn't say a strike was held on Christmas, I sad it was threatened. I believe this was during the MF dispute where UNITE called a strike over christmas, but it was stayed by the courts, due to irregularities in the balloting process.
Regarding your second point, I am not suggesting that you can compare losing a holiday with losing a job. However, in my opinion, most people would consider calling industrial action at a point intended to cause maximum disruption to members of the public was at best an underhand tactic, and falls well within the defenition of gratuitously nasty.
Regarding your second point, I am not suggesting that you can compare losing a holiday with losing a job. However, in my opinion, most people would consider calling industrial action at a point intended to cause maximum disruption to members of the public was at best an underhand tactic, and falls well within the defenition of gratuitously nasty.
You seem hell bent on trashing Unite and CC. Why?
Jun 9, 2020, 11:21 pm
#1540
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I didn't say a strike was held on Christmas, I sad it was threatened. I believe this was during the MF dispute where UNITE called a strike over christmas, but it was stayed by the courts, due to irregularities in the balloting process.
Regarding your second point, I am not suggesting that you can compare losing a holiday with losing a job. However, in my opinion, most people would consider calling industrial action at a point intended to cause maximum disruption to members of the public was at best an underhand tactic, and falls well within the defenition of gratuitously nasty.
Regarding your second point, I am not suggesting that you can compare losing a holiday with losing a job. However, in my opinion, most people would consider calling industrial action at a point intended to cause maximum disruption to members of the public was at best an underhand tactic, and falls well within the defenition of gratuitously nasty.
No it did not.
And, again, besides being off-topic, the impact is massively different. TfL goes on strike = I work from home; BA Pilots go on strike = I don't fly, or fly the following day, or fly with another airline, or get a full refund from the airline. Sure, it's annoying and in extreme cases very upsetting but... in the case you are comparing, BA doesn't offer early retirement or VR = I might lose my job and am significantly worse off. You can't compare the two.
Also, it's worth pointing out that strikes were not threatened because pilots wanted to keep their right to retire at 55 (see Lufthansa), have motorcycle messengers (Iberia) or because cabin crew wanted a +30% pay rise: in BALPA's case they were about T&Cs they gave up after 2008 and never got back, and in the case of MF they were to improve a little bit their pay and to stop having to do a TLV into a SEA or a three-day SCL. And they were called after breakdown in negotiations.
Jun 10, 2020, 12:33 am
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Jun 10, 2020, 2:31 am
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Jun 10, 2020, 2:33 am
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Bingo! So this one sentence somewhat puts into perspective all the rantings in this thread by people absolutely insistent that BA is going to dismiss / sack / fire / make redundant tens of thousands of people and then offer them a job back at virtually poverty pay 
Time for BA staff to finally see the light and rise up against the appalling union tactics. Wake up!!
Time for BA staff to finally see the light and rise up against the appalling union tactics. Wake up!!
Jun 10, 2020, 2:35 am
#1545
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There is a genuine undercurrent of nastiness in this thread, and it is sad to see.