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This community maintained wiki lists out all known airports on the BA network grading each airport in terms of its practical suitability for quick flight transfers. Three transfer categories are considered (and indicated as traffic lights from left to right in the following order)

Back to back: Immediate turnarounds without checked baggage, with an airside transfer and flying out on the same aircraft that operated the inbound flight
Transfer: Immediate turnarounds without checked baggage, with an airside transfer and flying out on a different aircraft (or airline) to the one that operated the inbound flight
Landside: Full arrival and departure sequence. It is assumed check-in for the onward flight is processed prior to the arrival at the airport.

Grading:
Excellent generally means you will leave the aircraft and find yourself in the boarding area for departure.
Good suggests that you may have to clear either security and/or passports before reboarding, but it should still be possible.
Reasonable: suggests possible but with risks attached
Poor: high risk and not advisable
Ungraded

Two caveats:
A) Sometimes things don't go to plan. E.g. EDI sometimes uses buses, which puts passengers landside and thus needing to reclear security. Ditto HAM.
B) The above needs to be combined with the turnaround time. MXP often has a generous back-to-back time, for example.


ABZ:
Back to back: Excellent; Transfer: Excellent if domestic, otherwise Reasonable; Landside: Reasonable. Arrivals decant into departure hall

ACE:
Back to back: Reasonable (if off season, there is a transfer channel just before passports); Transfer: Reasonable; Landside: Reasonable

AGP:
Back to back: Excellent for Schengen, Risky if not. Schengen - immediate turnaround possible at gate area. Non-Schengen - there is a transit passageway back to airside on the left after passports, but there can be long delays at passports, achievable if you are willing to politely push in the queue. see here.

ALC:
Back to back: Reasonable if off season, but you do need to go fully airside if non Schengen. Small and efficient airport. Peak time: see here

ALG:
Back to back: Impractical due to visa and immigration processes.

AMS:
Back to back: Excellent; Transfer: Excellent; Landside: Poor. Arrivals decant into departure hall normally

ANE:
Back to back: Good - very small airport, tarmac walk. You may want to telephone the airport to let them know since there's no OLCI facility.

ARN:
Back to back: Excellent; Transfer: Good; Landside: Reasonable (arriving pax should watch for sign to gates 70-82) * see posts 593, 238 & 1298 for more details. Post 174 is a pictorial guide.

ATH:
Back to back: Reasonable but don't hang about, you need to enter Schengen immigration, then leave Schengen, and a fairly efficient security check. Distances aren't great.

BCN:
Back to back: Good to excellent (bit of a walk, small flight connection facility to the left of passport control, dedicated security but no passports; Transfer: Good (if non-Schengen), Reasonable (if Schengen); Landside: Reasonable

BER:
Back to back: Good; Transfer: Good: Landside: Reasonable to Poor. Not much transfer traffic here so no queues for transit security when doing B2B - bit of a walk though. Note you can't access the lounge if doing B2B.

BGY:
Back to back: Reasonable to Poor; Transfer: Reasonable to Poor: Landside: Reasonable to Poor. More details, click here.

BHD:
Back to back: Excellent (use stairs upwards between gates 5 and 6, against flow); Transfer: Excellent if domestic, otherwise Reasonable; Landside: Reasonable

BIO:
Back to back: Reasonable, does involve going landside but small airport, airbridge rather than bus; Transfer: Reasonable; Landside: Reasonable

BIQ:
Back to back: Reasonable, involves going through passports to landside, security and passports again, but you need to be off early since passport checks are thorough.

BJV:
Back to back: Not really feasible, there is no online check-in or App facility, you must check in at the gate. More details click here.

BOD:
Back to back: Reasonable but does involve going landside and back again. However it's a small airport and efficient.

BLL:
Back to back: Good (there is a clear transfer route after passport control to avoid a security check; Transfer: Good; Landside: Good

BLQ:
Back to back: Good (small airport but you have to go landside); Transfer: Reasonable; Landside: Reasonable (bus gates)

BRI:
Back to back: Good (small airport but you have to go landside); Transfer: Reasonable; Landside: Reasonable

BSL:
Back to back:: Good; Transfer: Good; Landside: Good (Bit of a walk to landside, but it's not a huge airport. See this post for info)

BRU:
Back to back: Excellent on the transfer route, reasonable if not; Transfer: Reasonable; Landside: Poor (see comments in post #246 , also 64 onwards)

BUD:
Back to back: Good. Airside transfer with quiet security channel (might need to ask staff to open it for you). More details here: BUD Back-to-back?

CAG:
Back to back: Reasonable, does involve going landside but small airport, airbridge rather than bus; Transfer: Reasonable; Landside: Reasonable

CDG:
Back to back: Good now that BA use Terminal 2A. Transfer route well signed and drops you to entry to normal security check. No bussing. More details here : CDG Experience - Positive and a potential variant depending on the gate arrived into here.

CFU:
Back to back: Near impossible, no OLCI, you must present yourself at check-in. Process involves bus, passports, out to landside, short walk to departures building on right, security and bus. Security is bad on peak days

CGN:
Back to back: No OLCI, but on some dates it is still possible. See this post for details.

CHQ:
Back to back: Near impossible despite being a small airport, no OLCI so you can only get a boarding pass at the airport, and bus to and from gates

CMB:
Back to back: Excellent. Easy to do airside. Arriving and departing pax are not segregated. If you have your return boarding pass, just walk directly from arrival gate to departure gate.

CMF:
Back to back: Generally Good, involves going landside. Best avoid Saturdays, the main changeover day, when security is stretched.

CPH:
Back to back: Excellent; Transfer: Good; Landside: Reasonable. Arrivals decant into departure hall

CTA:
Back to back: Reasonable, there is a transfer route signed but seems obsolete. However small and efficient airport so still do-able if going via landside

DBV:
Back to back: Impractical. There's no online check in so you have to go landside and collect a boarding pass. Otherwise a very small airport

DUB:
Back to back: Good (if ex-LHR), Reasonable if ex-LCY (quicker plane turnaround); Transfer: Good if Common Travel Area, otherwise Reasonable; Landside: Reasonable. May require passing security, so Fast Track helps. See this post for a photo guide. (As of June 2017 increased risk due to pax segregation at 200 gates and ongoing building work)

DUS:
Back to back: Excellent; Transfer: Excellent if non-Schengen, Good if Schengen; Landside: Good. Arrivals decant into departure gate, though risk of bus to baggage hall

EDI:
Back to back: Excellent; Transfer: Excellent if domestic, otherwise Reasonable to Poor; Landside: Reasonable to Poor. Arrivals decant into departure hall normally, risk of bus to baggage hall

EFL:
Back to back: High risk on a Tuesday as only one flight, passport control is slow and turnaround time is approximately 50 minutes. OLCI is possible. Saturdays are possible if arriving on the early flight and leaving on the later flight. New terminal building is complete and fully operational, no buses involved, walk to terminal. Leave baggage hall via stairs, after the exit turn right and walk back towards check-in. Security is between arrivals and check-in. Exit the building and walk up the hill to Icarus for a coffee or snack or indeed a swim between flights. No lounge. UK flights now seem to be leaving from gates 1 & 2 which requires re-clearance of passport control after security. Only a vending machine and bare bones duty free shop.

EGC:
Back to back: Impractical. Bergerac has its own check-in system and is currently not on App/OLCI, so boarding passes must be obtained in person, no later than 45 minutes before departure

EXT:
Back to back: Not possible. Airport check-in only (check-in can't be done elsewhere due to FLY not being implemented). No airside transfer either.

FCO:
Back to back: Reasonable (return shuttle to main terminal); Transfer: Reasonable; Landside: Reasonable

FDH:
Back to back: Impractical due to delays during ski season - see here.

FLR:
Back to back: Poor due to use of bus transfers and airport layout; Transfer: Poor (no transfer track}; Landside: Reasonable

FNC:
Back to back: Reasonable due to small airport. You do need to go landside and return to airside. Bus from aircraft, passports, security, passports, walk to aircraft. Note: high risk of weather related diversions.

FRA:
Back to back: Reasonable to Poor; Transfer: Poor (particularly if coming off Schengen); Landside: Reasonable

FSC:
Back to back: Uncertain - if boarding passes can be issued in advance then it will be an easy landside transfer in a tiny airport. If boarding passes can only be collected in FSC then it's impossible.

FUE:
Back to back: Reasonable if out of the peak season, airbridges used. Have to go via passports landside and security, behind check in. Try Canaries+Families security if desperate.

GCI:
Back to back: Infeasible. There is no online or App check in, check-in can't be done in LCY or elsewhere due to FLY not implemented in Guernsey. No airside transfer either.

GIB:
Back to back: Good; Transfer: Good; Landside: Good. Must go landside, bearing right and back up through security. Turnaround can be long. Leave the aircraft early so as to beat the queue at passport arrivals.

GLA:
Back to back: Excellent; Transfer: Excellent if domestic, otherwise Reasonable; Landside: Reasonable. Arrivals decant into departure hall normally.

GNB:
Back to back: Good; Transfer: Good; Landside: Good: Walk to/from aircraft. Must go landside, outside and right back into departures. Long turnaround times make this feasible though Saturdays busy.

GOA:
Back to back: Reasonable; Transfer: Reasonable; Landside: Reasonable

GOT:
Back to back: Excellent; Transfer: Excellent; Landside: Excellent. Borderline foolproof. Arrivals decant into departure hall.

GVA:
Back to back: Excellent; Transfer: Good; Landside: Good (but can be poor during ski season). Turn left in arrival lane to go back up to departures area.

HAJ:
Back to back: Excellent; Transfer: Excellent if non-Schengen, Good if Schengen; Landside: Good. Arrivals decant into departure gate. See posts 1670 and 1671 below.

HAM:
Back to back: Very Good to Excellent - transfer security check (not busy, before immigration) then immediately back into the departures area; Transfer: Excellent if non-Schengen, Good if Schengen; Landside: Reasonable. Arrivals and departures are now separated, and very occasionally bus to baggage hall.

HEL:
Back to back: Good: Transfer: Good; Landside: Reasonable. Incoming passengers can reverse direction just before Schengen passports. If a bus from gate, you will need to rush.

HER:
Back to back: Infeasible. There is no online or App check in, it's a bus transfer and arrivals / departures are in separate buildings.

INN:
Back to back: Good; Transfer: Good; Landside: Good. You have to go landside, and there is a bus transfer to/from the aircraft, but the airport is very small and highly efficient.

INV:
Back to back: Good to Excellent; Transfer: Good; Landside: Good. You have to go landside and through security. See here for more info.

IOM:
Back to back: Good; Transfer: Good; Landside: Good (no flight connections but small airport)

IST:
Back to back: Good; Transfer: Good; Landside: Poor ( Would lose 15-20 minutes if lanside option is preferred )

JER:
Back to back: Excellent; Transfer: Excellent if domestic, otherwise Good; Landside: Good. Arrivals decant into departure hall, sometimes you need to double back to the BA lounge.

JMK:
Back to back: Nearly impossible due to clunky arrival processing and use of buses.

JTR:
Back to back: Impossible: bus transfer, slow passports.

KEF:
Back to back: Excellent; Transfer: Excellent if non Schengen, Good otherwise; Landside: Good. BA flights tip arriving passengers into the departure gate. Foolproof. NB LCY flights pax use a bus from a remote stand, still easy as dropped off less than 100M from the departure gate.

KLX:
Back to back: Moderately risky due to boarding passes only being issued at check-in. No buses used normally, walk off plane straight into very small building.

KRK:
Back to back: Nearly impossible due to clunky arrival processing and use of buses.

LBA:
Back to back: Good; Transfer: Good; Landside: Good. Have to go landside for any connection or b2b but small airport, see here for further details

LCA:
Back to back: Good; Transfer: Good; Landside: Reasonable. There is a "Connecting Flights" channel on the left of the arrivals corridor, half way along, well before passports.

LEI:
Back to back: Moderate to risky: you have to go via landside, and you need the return boarding pass before travel. But it's a small and efficient airport. No buses are used, it's similar to LCY in operation.

LHR T3:
Back to back: Good; Transfer: Good; Landside: Reasonable. Follow connecting flights route, which can be as quick as 11 mins from disembark to through security. No conformance unlike T5. see here.

LIG:
Back to back: Good to Excellent; Transfer: Good; Landside: Reasonable. See this post for more information

LIS:
Back to back: Good; Transfer: Good; Landside: Reasonable. There is a security check to the right, immediately before and avoiding the passport desks. Risk of bus gates, but still OK.

LIN:
Back to back: Not a good place due to bus transfer and needing to go fully landside; Transfer: Good; Landside: Reasonable to Poor (bus gates)

LPA:
Back to back: Possibly OK if off peak. Some flights are bus gates, but it's a relatively small and efficient airport. OLCI and App check in both work.

LUX:
Back to back: Very Good; Transfer: Good; Landside: Good. Landside route is described here: Airside transfer door described here.

MAD T4:
Back to back: Very good; Transfer: Good to Reasonable depending on arriving terminal. Landside: Reasonable See this post for full details.

MAH:
Back to back: Good to excellent, see post number 563.

MAN:
Back to back: Reasonable to Poor; Transfer: Reasonable to Poor: Landside: Reasonable to Poor

MCT:
Back to back: Excellent - direct transfer route

MJV:
Back to back: Good; Transfer: Good; Landside: Good provided you avoid a peak time More information here. (Murcia San Javier airport closed in Jan 2019 and was replaced by RMU)

MLA:
Back to back: Good; Transfer: Good; Landside: Good. This this post and linked blog for details.

MRS:
Back to back: Good; Transfer: Good; Landside: Good. There is a transfer and security point just before going down to passports. Use the phone on the post to ask for it to be opened it for you; however, there is no guarantee that it will and you may have to exit to landside and re-enter through departures security.

MUC:
Back to back: Very good; Transfer: Good but note 2 terminals; Landside: Good. Transfer point after passport, details in this post

MXP:
Back to back: Good (bit of walk to Transfer facility); Transfer: Good; Landside: Good. Thread links here.

NCE:
Back to back: Reasonable; Transfer: Poor; Landside: Good. There is a direct transfer route by turning into the door way on the right before the slope up to passports

NCL:
Back to back: Excellent; Transfer: Excellent if domestic, otherwise Good; Landside: Good. Arrivals decant into departure hall.

NQY:
Back to back: Good; Transfer: Good; Landside: Good (no flight connections but small airport). See post 475 for more information.

NTE:
Back to back: Good; Transfer: Good; Landside: Good. see this post.

NUE:
Back to back: Impractical unfortunately due to no OLCI, all check in done at the airport

OLB:
Back to back: Excellent; Transfer: Excellent; Landside: Excellent. Arriving into Olbia is via jetty to the departure gate, no passports or security. Note no OLCI via the App, more info here.

ORK:
Back to back: Good, do need to clear passports and security but very small and efficient airport.

ORY:
Back to back: Not recommended due to fast turnarounds on LCY services. You have to go fully landside and back in again, via 2 passport checks and a security check.

OPO:
Back to back: Excellent (Look for grey escalator going up); Transfer: Good (reasonable if Schengen); Landside: Reasonable

OTP:
Back to back: Good as at April 2019. Poor as of 29 Dec 18; Transfer: Excellent (See post #1919); Landside: Good to Reasonable. Arrival experience and speed of transit depends on arrival gate. On some arrivals, there is a Connection facility on the right at Passport Control after leaving aircraft although sometimes it is up some stairs and on the left. If this is the case, you need to go to the top of the stairs to see a passport official / go to passport desk (to explain you have arrived from London and are going straight back to London - likely resulting in a confused look on the officer's face) before returning half way down the stairs to go through security.

OSL:
Back to back: Good on the whole; Transfer: Reasonable; Landside: Reasonable. (See experiences in this post, this post, this post and this post.)

OVD:
Back to back: Not really suitable. This is really an Iberia Express route but leaves T5 under BA code. The aircraft is based in OVD not LHR. Small efficient airport though.

PFO:
Back to back: Good on the whole, but you do need to go landside. However it is a small airport. May not be so good on a busy Saturday during school holidays. Note bus transfers however.

PMO:
Airport is currently being rebuilt. Once completed potentially a good option due to airbridge. Departure security is two floors above arrivals (use lift)

PMI:
Back to back: Excellent; Transfer: Excellent; Landside: Excellent. Borderline foolproof - you are landed direct into boarding area

PRG:
Back to back: Excellent; Transfer: Ungraded; Landside: Ungraded. For back-to-back the LHR-PRG arrival dumps you right into the main corridor of that pier; walk 100 ft. to security check for the BA boarding lounge and you'll be good to go.

PRN:
Back to back: Possible but not recommended, see post 557.

PSA:
Back to back: Reasonable; Transfer: Reasonable; Landside: Reasonable (not the best location since there are a lot of LCC and you have to reclear security from landside). (August 2018 review and comment)

PUY:
Back to back: Unrealistic, due to the bus transfer process followed by passport control.

RAK:
Back to back: Terrible; Transfer: Ungraded; Landside: Ungraded. See post #1353 below

RHO:
Back to back: Infeasible - no OLCI or App check in, bus transfers from gates. Also airport very busy on Saturday PM and Sunday AM.

RTM:
Back to back: Good; Transfer: Good; Landside: Good (Reasonable during morning/evening peaks)

SEZ:
Back to back: Excellent. Use the Transit desk at the right side of the immigration hall, opposite end to passport control, see this post.

SKG:
Back to back: Reasonable; Transfer: Reasonable; Landside: Reasonable. Note bus transfers on apron.

SOF:
Back to back: Excellent; Transfer: Excellent; Landside: Reasonable. Arrivals decant into departure area.

SPU:
Back to back: Reasonable but there is a bus transfer and then landside; Transfer: Reasonable but transfer routes seems to be from Star Alliance; Landside: Reasonable

STR:
Back to back: Reasonable (stairs from baggage hall back to security. Can't avoid security/passports); Transfer: Reasonable; Landside: Reasonable. Report here.

SVG:
Back to back: Excellent; Transfer: Excellent; Landside: Excellent. Borderline foolproof, though only restricted number of flights

SVQ:
Back to back: Reasonable but need to exit landside and go up through departures, security. and passports is by the gate. Compact airport, fast security even if queuing.

SZG:
Back to back: Reasonable; Transfer: Reasonable; Landside: Reasonable. No transfer channel and note bus transfers, but small airport.

TFS:
Back to back: Reasonable but in all cases involves going landside. May be tricky to reclear security in peak holiday season.

TIA:
Back to back: Probably impractical. There is a bus transfer process and passport checks/stamps takes a while (Albania isn't in the EU).

TLL:
Back to back: Very good; Transfer: Good; Landside: Reasonable. see this post.

TLV:
Back to back: At your own risk. There is a transfer route with security on the way to passport control just after the rotunda.

TNG:
Back to back: No transfer or B2B route. Have to pass immigration, customs and security again. Airport is tiny (think 10 flights a day) and B2B is perfectly doable provided no problems at immigration.

TRN:
Back to back: Reasonable to Good; Transfer: Good; Landside: Reasonable. No short cuts to avoid going landside via passports x2 and security, apart from Fast Track security, but a small and efficient airport.

TXL:
Back to back: Good (security takes place in limited area by arriving gate); Transfer: Good; Landside: Good. Security is at gates, if using A gates. NB: Currently, this usually includes LCY flights, which now mostly use A gates like LHR flights. TXL Closed in November 2020, replaced by BER.

UIP:
Back to back: Good - very small airport, tarmac walk.

VCE:
Back to back: Very good; Transfer: Good at off-peak times; Landside: Reasonable. See this post for details

VIE:
Back to back: Excellent (BEWARE: see here); Transfer: Good; Landside: Reasonable

VLC:
Back to back: Good; Transfer: Good; Landside: Reasonable. There's no transfer route so you have to go via landside. Departures is straight up from the arrival point. Disagree with the previous two sentences. For me, a direct turnaround from gates 12-14 was possible without going landside. Took less than a minute.

VNO:
Back to back: Excellent; Transfer: Good; Landside: Reasonable. Arriving passengers enter departing passenger area. [BA have codeshare and also has TP Run options via AY]

VRN:
Back to back: Good; Transfer: Good; Landside: Reasonable. There's no transfer route so you have to go landside but it's a very small airport and there is Fast Track.

WAW:
Back to back: Good (small connection facility on left after airbridge); Transfer: Good; Landside: Reasonable

ZAG:
Back to back: Good (must re-clear security--this is effectively an international transfer); Transfer: Good (must re-clear security [there are separate transfers for international to international near east end of a/p and international to domestic with passport control near west end of a/p] but airport is small); Landside: Reasonable (must clear passport control, go downstairs through baggage claim to exit, outside and upstairs to check-in, upstairs again to the top floor for security and passport control and then back downstairs to the gate level.

ZRH:
Back to back: Generally good but see this post and the replies for more information.

ZTH:
Back to back: Infeasible due to buses and no online check-in possibilities. Somewhat unfortunate given the small airport. No transfer route, you must enter Schengen and go to landside.


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Old May 17, 22, 7:28 am
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Originally Posted by IAN-UK View Post
To be honest I don't quite get the "deplaning landside" picture.
There are only [7?] airbridges at SOF. BA almost always uses gate C1, which decants into departures waiting area

However, other non-EU airlines either use a bus gate (esp FR) - decants into passport control, no backtracking - or into one of the other contact gates, but with temporary partitions forcing you to go to passport control (e.g. QR, mainly because most ex-EU arrivals are not deemed to be security cleared, and therefore unable to mix with departing passengers). Means you'd have to go landside and loop back upstairs through security and passport control - it's normally quiet and no queue, but still a schlep

So generally you're fine and have time to pop into the lounge for a drink and a cigarette. But if an earlier flight is delayed and blocking C1, or if BA is delayed, then YMMV. It's not a busy airport, so the risk is low, and IMHO worth it, but it's still a risk (...same for other "foolproof" B2B airports like DUS and AMS: >99% of the time effortless, but if you're in the 1% bus arrivals, or not at one of the usual gates, and arrive at passport control behind an EK A380, then not-so-much)
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Originally Posted by kt74 View Post
There are only [7?] airbridges at SOF. BA almost always uses gate C1, which decants into departures waiting area

However, other non-EU airlines either use a bus gate (esp FR) - decants into passport control, no backtracking - or into one of the other contact gates, but with temporary partitions forcing you to go to passport control (e.g. QR, mainly because most ex-EU arrivals are not deemed to be security cleared, and therefore unable to mix with departing passengers). Means you'd have to go landside and loop back upstairs through security and passport control - it's normally quiet and no queue, but still a schlep

So generally you're fine and have time to pop into the lounge for a drink and a cigarette. But if an earlier flight is delayed and blocking C1, or if BA is delayed, then YMMV. It's not a busy airport, so the risk is low, and IMHO worth it, but it's still a risk (...same for other "foolproof" B2B airports like DUS and AMS: >99% of the time effortless, but if you're in the 1% bus arrivals, or not at one of the usual gates, and arrive at passport control behind an EK A380, then not-so-much)
That is a very helpful description as I've never been to SOF, but now I have a clear idea of the setup and the risks. As I have the time to do so, I think I'll just fly out 2 nights beforehand and explore the city, which I hear is beautiful. I'll wait a bit before accepting the change due to the cancellation in case my SOF-LHR to start my trip is also cancelled (although it appears BA is done with cancellations for that week mid-September). Don't want to risk missing the first leg, or not having my BP (which I don't see why I can't get at LHR as I will have all of my documents and am a dual US/UK citizen).

My last leg of my TP run from LHR and my flight back to London is a B2B, however, I am much more willing to risk it on the way back as worst case I stay an extra night in SOF and fly back the next day.
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Old May 17, 22, 2:51 pm
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Lyon LYS

Is a back to back or transfer possible at Lyon (LYS)?
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Old May 17, 22, 4:39 pm
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Originally Posted by BA662 View Post
Is a back to back or transfer possible at Lyon (LYS)?
Thanks.
Interestingly it's not in the Wiki. I vaguely remember going from plane straight to passports with a bus but it was in 2018.
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Old May 17, 22, 5:12 pm
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Originally Posted by kt74 View Post
There are only [7?] airbridges at SOF. BA almost always uses gate C1, which decants into departures waiting area

However, other non-EU airlines either use a bus gate (esp FR) - decants into passport control, no backtracking - or into one of the other contact gates, but with temporary partitions forcing you to go to passport control (e.g. QR, mainly because most ex-EU arrivals are not deemed to be security cleared, and therefore unable to mix with departing passengers). Means you'd have to go landside and loop back upstairs through security and passport control - it's normally quiet and no queue, but still a schlep

So generally you're fine and have time to pop into the lounge for a drink and a cigarette. But if an earlier flight is delayed and blocking C1, or if BA is delayed, then YMMV. It's not a busy airport, so the risk is low, and IMHO worth it, but it's still a risk (...same for other "foolproof" B2B airports like DUS and AMS: >99% of the time effortless, but if you're in the 1% bus arrivals, or not at one of the usual gates, and arrive at passport control behind an EK A380, then not-so-much)

thanks for that - I was scratching my head at the idea of "landside arrivals", but i see what you mean. I've spent quite a bit of time in Sofia, and all but one of my arrivals have involved mingling with departure passengers before going down a level to the immigration set-up - the exception was parking at a contact stand but getting bussed directly to the immigration area.
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ATHENS

I'm not B2Bing, but i need to get airside from a BA arrival at Athens pretty sharpish. Facing the post-Brexit world, I'm wondering how Greece is handling UK passport holders at Athens airport.

My second home is Lisbon, which was hellish for UK arrivals until new passport-reading machines were installed for UK arrivals (among some other nationalities). OK, I'm touching wood here, because I have yet to try out the new LIS system….
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There is a transit route at Athens, separately staffed. I used it successfully a couple of years ago and someone will have to confirm it's still there, but I don't see why it wouldn't be. There is/was a security check but not passports.

On another subject, a successful SOF b2b today, very easy. I met someone asking at the gate for a b2b next week whether it was possible; he was wrongly advised that he would need to return through security. Sometimes airport employees don't understand the details!
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Old May 18, 22, 12:02 pm
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Originally Posted by barrister_haus View Post
Thanks for the update. I've never been so cannot comment, but any idea why sometimes people report they deplane into the departures hall, and on other occasions (like your experience) they deplane landslide? Landside makes me a bit nervous, although I'm confident I'll have my BP back to LHR and then onto JFK.

Assuming landslide meant security again and passport control twice? I worry about a long queue...
My bad, I meant to say "airside"! Definitely you come into the departures area, a little round the corner from the C1 seating area.

Just to add some SOF info, I stayed at the IBIS on the outbound last week, coming in on Wizz and arriving around 3am. This was a bus gate and by using usual techniques of getting onto the first bus in the line, positioning by the door, and developing sharp shoulders and acceleration, I was through very quickly indeed. I don't think it would be that hard to get back round through security in time had for some reason this happened on BA, it was very efficient. No fast track though. Also worth noting is that although the Ibis at the hotel is some way away, at T1 rather than T2, they'll send a car for you even at 3am when the inter terminal bus isn't running, you just have to call them.
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Just done my first ever B2B - at OTP - and I don't think I've ever been looked at in the same way as the bloke at security just did!
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I’d add Faro, Portugal to the list of B2B excellent. I was just there for a few days flying British Airways and I can confirm when leaving the aircraft, you are at the boarding area immediately. In fact, someone leaving the incoming aircraft there unintentionally queued up to re-board (just in front of me) but obviously their boarding pass wasn’t valid
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What's back to back at AMS like? Thinking of doing the last LHR-AMS flight tomorrow night and the last AMS-LHR flight back
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Old May 21, 22, 9:00 pm
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Originally Posted by BWBriscoe View Post
What's back to back at AMS like? Thinking of doing the last LHR-AMS flight tomorrow night and the last AMS-LHR flight back
still the same as it was pre covid - the notes on the wiki remain accurate for AMS
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Old May 21, 22, 9:13 pm
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Has anyone here ever done a B2B at CAI on BA384/BA385? The plane arrives at 1525 and leaves again at 1635 which seems quite tight

This page https://onemileatatime.com/cairo-air...sit-nightmare/
doesn’t refer to BA specifically but doesn’t make CAI sound like an easy experience…
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Old May 21, 22, 10:12 pm
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Has anyone here ever done a B2B at CAI on BA384/BA385? The plane arrives at 1525 and leaves again at 1635 which seems quite tight

This page https://onemileatatime.com/cairo-air...sit-nightmare/
doesn’t refer to BA specifically but doesn’t make CAI sound like an easy experience…
B2B at CAI?! You must be insane! 😁

You can just about do a transfer left alone a B2B.
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Old May 22, 22, 3:15 am
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New setup in Geneva

I get back to Geneva at least once a month. Not so long ago a B2B was a cake walk if you got dropped at the satellite B gates. You just walked down the stairs and before walking down to passport control you just walked up the stairs to departure as mentioned in the wiki. There was always the risk of getting bused to the main terminal which could have complicated things.

Now that BA seems to always leave from C concourse, I’m not 100% sure if it’s doable. Normally when you get off the plane, you head up the escalator and go to passport control. And that would be a real nightmare for UK passport holders, plus you’d have to get back through security again. There is a transfer security scanner just before baggage claim but not sure I’ve ever seen it open.

However…I’m sitting in C concourse right now and the YUL-GVA has just landed. And while most passengers are going up to passport control, I noticed a few people walking out through the boarding gate and into the departure zone right in front of me. If this is generally allowed, then it may well actually be easier now as you don’t have to go through the trials and tribulations of navigating two sets of stairs like in the good old days.

I’ll have a proper look in a couple of weeks. But if what I’ve seen today is the norm, then the GVA B2B still qualifies as “excellent”.
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