Apr 16, 2017, 1:12 pm
Last edit by: corporate-wage-slave
Club Europe Catering Guide 2017.
This thread outlines the new arrangements for Club Europe catering, introduced on Sunday 26 March 2017 and due to end on Tuesday 11 September 2018, based on 3 zones. A new Club Europe catering product is due to be launch on Wednesday 12 September 2018, and this is based on 4 bands. The main information piece - in terms of timings and the distance zones for the meals can be found in post 1. The following cross references the photos below against the matrix of options. In addition to the photos, some FTers have written extensively on their experiences so there is more to this thread than the pictures. Also note that there was an increase in food offered on some combinations shortly after the start-up, so the more recent photos may be the best place to start.The previous shorthaul catering guide, now locked but which had the previous 4 band system, is to be found here.
Numbers relate to the post number. Vegetarian means the alternative option provided as standard rather than the pre-ordered versions - which are VLML (Lacto-ovo), AVML (Asia) and VGML (Vegan) . There are differences between the offering in/out of LHR, LGW, LCY+STN. Last update: 833
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Note posts before 1-832 are typically the April 2017 menu. 833 and above is from the menu for May 2017.
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Chef's Chat sheets for:
CE LHR Summer 2017 - Rotation A
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28338151-post954.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28339641-post958.html
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Short Band (UK, France, Ireland, BeNeLux, Germany)
Breakfast: 279, 570 (vegetarian), 629, 674, 821 (Express breakfast for MAN and LBA), 1343 (Vegan), 2285 (Express for LBA and MAN), 2445
Brunch: 180, 289, 469, 563, 685, 716, 2625 (AVML)
Lunch: 207, 545 (diabetic), 644 (first photo), 680 (VLML), 802, 928, 1322 (Kosher), 2284
Afternoon tea: 339, 404 (vegetarian), 480, 600 (VLML), 710 (including low lactose), 800, 882 (gluten free), 1281, 1322 (Kosher), 1673, 2679 (Kosher), 2792
Dinner: 563, 630 (VGML), 669 (Kosher Passover), 771 (VGML LCY) 799, 819 (AVML), 833 (May 2017 menu), 1283, 1287, 1674, 2446, 2616 (Kosher), 2793
Comments on difference between AVML and VLML here.
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Medium Band (e.g. Madrid, Nice, Prague, Copenhagen)
Breakfast: 645 (vegetarian), 724 (vegetarian), 1003
Brunch: 199 (VLML), 600 (VLML), 659 (Kosher Passover)
Lunch: 239 (child), 251, 425, 641, 733
Afternoon tea: 332 (also includes vegetarian), 426 (GFML), 813 (Muslim)
Dinner: 456, 551 (also includes VLML), 666, 1004,
1278
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Long Band (e.g. Lisbon, Rome, Warsaw, Stockholm).
Breakfast: 195 (vegetarian)
Rest of the day: 306 (LFML), 345, 427, 443, 468, 597, 676, 687, 695, 783 (VLML)
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NOT MAINTAINED AND OUT OF DATE: The complete Short Haul meal structure for the longer flights as of October 2017 is:
LHR
Meal 1: Chicken / red pepper risotto
Meal 2: Beef cheek
Meal 3: Chicken supreme / gnocchi
Meal 4: Miso glazed cod
Meal 5: Chicken khao soi
Meal 6: Hot smoked salmon linguine
LGW
Meal 1: Thyme roasted chicken
Meal 2: Spicy corn and paneer masala
Meal 3: Thai Penang chicken curry
Meal 4: Roasted red pepper tortellini
Meal 5: Beef and mushroom caserole
Meal 6: Tomato and four cheeses tortellini
Structured into:
Rotation A
LHR outbound
Meal 3
Meal 4
inbound to LHR
Meal 5
Meal 6
Rotation B
LHR outbound
Meal 5
Meal 6
inbound to LHR
Meal 1
Meal 2
Rotation C
LHR outbound
Meal 1
Meal 2
inbound to LHR
Meal 3
Meal 4
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October 2017 = Rotation C
November 2017 = Rotation A
December 2017 = Rotation B
January 2018 = Rotation C
etc
This thread outlines the new arrangements for Club Europe catering, introduced on Sunday 26 March 2017 and due to end on Tuesday 11 September 2018, based on 3 zones. A new Club Europe catering product is due to be launch on Wednesday 12 September 2018, and this is based on 4 bands. The main information piece - in terms of timings and the distance zones for the meals can be found in post 1. The following cross references the photos below against the matrix of options. In addition to the photos, some FTers have written extensively on their experiences so there is more to this thread than the pictures. Also note that there was an increase in food offered on some combinations shortly after the start-up, so the more recent photos may be the best place to start.The previous shorthaul catering guide, now locked but which had the previous 4 band system, is to be found here.
Numbers relate to the post number. Vegetarian means the alternative option provided as standard rather than the pre-ordered versions - which are VLML (Lacto-ovo), AVML (Asia) and VGML (Vegan) . There are differences between the offering in/out of LHR, LGW, LCY+STN. Last update: 833
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Note posts before 1-832 are typically the April 2017 menu. 833 and above is from the menu for May 2017.
----
Chef's Chat sheets for:
CE LHR Summer 2017 - Rotation A
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28338151-post954.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28339641-post958.html
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Short Band (UK, France, Ireland, BeNeLux, Germany)
Breakfast: 279, 570 (vegetarian), 629, 674, 821 (Express breakfast for MAN and LBA), 1343 (Vegan), 2285 (Express for LBA and MAN), 2445
Brunch: 180, 289, 469, 563, 685, 716, 2625 (AVML)
Lunch: 207, 545 (diabetic), 644 (first photo), 680 (VLML), 802, 928, 1322 (Kosher), 2284
Afternoon tea: 339, 404 (vegetarian), 480, 600 (VLML), 710 (including low lactose), 800, 882 (gluten free), 1281, 1322 (Kosher), 1673, 2679 (Kosher), 2792
Dinner: 563, 630 (VGML), 669 (Kosher Passover), 771 (VGML LCY) 799, 819 (AVML), 833 (May 2017 menu), 1283, 1287, 1674, 2446, 2616 (Kosher), 2793
Comments on difference between AVML and VLML here.
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Medium Band (e.g. Madrid, Nice, Prague, Copenhagen)
Breakfast: 645 (vegetarian), 724 (vegetarian), 1003
Brunch: 199 (VLML), 600 (VLML), 659 (Kosher Passover)
Lunch: 239 (child), 251, 425, 641, 733
Afternoon tea: 332 (also includes vegetarian), 426 (GFML), 813 (Muslim)
Dinner: 456, 551 (also includes VLML), 666, 1004,
1278
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Long Band (e.g. Lisbon, Rome, Warsaw, Stockholm).
Breakfast: 195 (vegetarian)
Rest of the day: 306 (LFML), 345, 427, 443, 468, 597, 676, 687, 695, 783 (VLML)
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NOT MAINTAINED AND OUT OF DATE: The complete Short Haul meal structure for the longer flights as of October 2017 is:
LHR
Meal 1: Chicken / red pepper risotto
Meal 2: Beef cheek
Meal 3: Chicken supreme / gnocchi
Meal 4: Miso glazed cod
Meal 5: Chicken khao soi
Meal 6: Hot smoked salmon linguine
LGW
Meal 1: Thyme roasted chicken
Meal 2: Spicy corn and paneer masala
Meal 3: Thai Penang chicken curry
Meal 4: Roasted red pepper tortellini
Meal 5: Beef and mushroom caserole
Meal 6: Tomato and four cheeses tortellini
Structured into:
Rotation A
LHR outbound
Meal 3
Meal 4
inbound to LHR
Meal 5
Meal 6
Rotation B
LHR outbound
Meal 5
Meal 6
inbound to LHR
Meal 1
Meal 2
Rotation C
LHR outbound
Meal 1
Meal 2
inbound to LHR
Meal 3
Meal 4
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October 2017 = Rotation C
November 2017 = Rotation A
December 2017 = Rotation B
January 2018 = Rotation C
etc
Club Europe catering guide
Feb 18, 2018, 3:45 am
#1996
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EDIT: the actual menu should be this one assuming you are travelling in March:
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/29161398-post1803.html
Feb 18, 2018, 3:52 am
#1997
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“Fish or chicken, sir?”
”I believe I’ve ordered a vegetarian meal.”
”I think the fish is the vegetarian meal, sir.”
Sigh.......
”I believe I’ve ordered a vegetarian meal.”
”I think the fish is the vegetarian meal, sir.”
Sigh.......
Feb 18, 2018, 4:16 am
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Feb 18, 2018, 8:22 am
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Feb 18, 2018, 8:28 am
#2000
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It's the same kitchen (over the road from the Hilton Garden Inn in Heathrow) that prepares the meals in both directions, CE meals are not locally prepared in Cyprus. So what you see upthread is what you will get.
EDIT: the actual menu should be this one assuming you are travelling in March:
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/29161398-post1803.html
EDIT: the actual menu should be this one assuming you are travelling in March:
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/29161398-post1803.html
Isn't LCA-LHR a much longer route?
Last edited by ehud; Feb 18, 2018 at 8:42 am
Feb 18, 2018, 8:37 am
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Feb 18, 2018, 8:47 am
#2002
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LCA and SOF are both Long flights, SOF is towards the beginning of the band, and LCA is at the other end of it, but in a given month on a given rotation will have the same food offering. Having a look at the first few posts in this thread to see how this works.
Feb 18, 2018, 9:27 am
#2003
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I tried something different today on my EDI-LHR flight. I went for 'low-fat' rather than 'low-calorie' and got this mezze plate! It was OK - not sure the humous is that low in fat but I guess it is 'good fats'!
As an aside the prawn thing was being describe as prawn tapas rather than a prawn salad!
Low-Fat Short Haul
As an aside the prawn thing was being describe as prawn tapas rather than a prawn salad!
Low-Fat Short Haul
Last edited by aks120; Feb 18, 2018 at 9:49 am Reason: spelling!
Feb 18, 2018, 9:31 am
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I tried something different today on my EDI-LHR flight. I went for 'low-fat' rather than 'low-calorie' and got this mezzo plate! It was OK - not sure the homes is that low in fat but I guess it is 'good fats'!
As an aside the prawn thing was being describe as prawn tapas rather than a prawn salad!
Low-Fat Short Haul
As an aside the prawn thing was being describe as prawn tapas rather than a prawn salad!
Low-Fat Short Haul
Feb 18, 2018, 12:35 pm
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It does look good but is in no way low fat: hummus and walnuts ...
Feb 18, 2018, 12:55 pm
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I agree with others - looks nice but not low fat - that said, that confirms my theory that BA typically has about two SPML loaded per meal/band: KSML and everything else! I think that low fat, low calorie, Muslim, low cholesterol, Vegetarian, Asian vegetarian etc are all but one and the same. In that case, this looks like one of the better iterations!
Feb 19, 2018, 7:29 am
#2007
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BA675 IST-LHR. An exception to the rule
I have finally figured out the inbound BA675 and its an anomaly for sure.
Meal 5: Chicken khao soi, or Meal 6: Hot smoked salmon linguine
Right? Well not quite. Instead the BA675 gets a small 80mg Yeo Valley yoghurt pot, and for the hot dish, the choice of
- Apple veal sausage with traditional breakfast accompaniments (scrambled egg, potatoes, grilled tomato half, and mushrooms), or
- Ricotta and spinach omelette with sautéed king oyster mushrooms and Glamorgan patty (pictured below)
BA675 breakfast served this morning at 11:40am IST time - that's the meal in full
Why is this happening? Well, the answer can be found in the Chef's Chat Sheet that corporate-wage-slave kindly posted in May last year.
In the sheet, sub-titled "HC HOT BREAKFAST - NIGHTSTOP INBOUND, ALL BANDS" the meals loaded on the BA675 match this description to the letter. So it would appear that this menu is loaded for all night stopped inbounds, irrespective of band and also irrespective of the flight departure time. I think its bizarre that an inbound IST-LHR gets the same menu as the first CDG-LHR of the day, but there you go - that seems to be the way it works.
What is more bizarre is that the SPML component (when requested 24 hours+ in advance) is aligned to the regular Long flight band and timing with no night stop override in place which explains December's bewhildering VGML curry with a breakfast set up.
BA675 Lacto-ovo-vegetarian meal
BA675 IST-LHR scheduled departure: 10:00; scheduled arrival: 11:20
Note, the aircraft used to operate the morning BA675 arrives into IST the night before as BA680
Now, IST is a long catering band so going by the flight departure time, on the BA675 one would expect a starter, cheese plate, and dessert plate, with a choice of two main hots. So following the current rotation (A), in February 2018 you'd expect to receive the choice of:Note, the aircraft used to operate the morning BA675 arrives into IST the night before as BA680
Meal 5: Chicken khao soi, or Meal 6: Hot smoked salmon linguine
Right? Well not quite. Instead the BA675 gets a small 80mg Yeo Valley yoghurt pot, and for the hot dish, the choice of
- Apple veal sausage with traditional breakfast accompaniments (scrambled egg, potatoes, grilled tomato half, and mushrooms), or
- Ricotta and spinach omelette with sautéed king oyster mushrooms and Glamorgan patty (pictured below)
BA675 breakfast served this morning at 11:40am IST time - that's the meal in full
Why is this happening? Well, the answer can be found in the Chef's Chat Sheet that corporate-wage-slave kindly posted in May last year.
In the sheet, sub-titled "HC HOT BREAKFAST - NIGHTSTOP INBOUND, ALL BANDS" the meals loaded on the BA675 match this description to the letter. So it would appear that this menu is loaded for all night stopped inbounds, irrespective of band and also irrespective of the flight departure time. I think its bizarre that an inbound IST-LHR gets the same menu as the first CDG-LHR of the day, but there you go - that seems to be the way it works.
What is more bizarre is that the SPML component (when requested 24 hours+ in advance) is aligned to the regular Long flight band and timing with no night stop override in place which explains December's bewhildering VGML curry with a breakfast set up.
BA675 Lacto-ovo-vegetarian meal
Last edited by Prospero; Feb 19, 2018 at 8:09 am Reason: add info
Feb 19, 2018, 4:03 pm
#2008
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LHR - CPH BA816 19 Feb. CE
Chicken Salad, medium distance lunch meal. (other choice was panini) Chicken was definite preference in cabin.
Tasted quite good, as others have commented, quantity was smaller than maybe in the past but quality was good. I enjoyed it and as a light lunch it was enough for me. (i don't tend to eat lunches but only had a very light breakfast so this was a nice way to carry me over until the evening meal).
Safe travels.
Chicken Salad, medium distance lunch meal. (other choice was panini) Chicken was definite preference in cabin.
Tasted quite good, as others have commented, quantity was smaller than maybe in the past but quality was good. I enjoyed it and as a light lunch it was enough for me. (i don't tend to eat lunches but only had a very light breakfast so this was a nice way to carry me over until the evening meal).
Safe travels.
Feb 20, 2018, 3:42 pm
#2009
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BA779
Where have to out of Africa nuts gone, replaced by these rather bland dried almonds.
Tonight’s BA1338 (not pictured) was more of a choice on how do you want your chicken, in salad or panini form, much to the amusement of the crew and passengers who all seemed to see the funny side of it.
In a separate tagline today’s BA779 ARN-LHR crew, in particular the CSD were excellent, it made me feel like I was on a BA flight in the good old days, Chicken Tikka was pretty good too.
Feb 20, 2018, 3:58 pm
#2010
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BCN-LGW medium band dinner. Chicken breast with pasta salad (and dressing sachet!) and dessert pot. This was quite tasty and more substantial than some of the LHR offerings of late (halved prawns, anyone?). I'd actually ordered the Kosher special meal as I wanted to try it for a change, but for reasons the excellent crew couldn't fathom, it was't loaded.