Jan 20, 2017, 9:20 pm
Last edit by: SonicStar817
Here is a guide as to the best and worst seats in First, Club World, World Traveller Plus and World Traveller on the Boeing 777 (all variants). Please ask your questions here, and hopefully someone will be able to help!
The following triple-seven seat maps have been prepared for quick comparison and reference.
MMB/Expertflyer Aircraft Codes:
777 = 777-200ER (77M, 77R, 77J, 77L,77S, 77T) and 777-300ER (77G)
77W = 777-300ER (77H and 77G (occasionally))
Type 77M 777-200ER
Refurbished four class: 8F 49J 40W 138M; fitted with new Club World Suites
G-RAES G-VIIA G-VIIB G-VIIC G-VIID G-VIIE G-VIIF G-VIIG G-VIIH G-VIIJ G-VIIK G-VIIL G-VIIM G-VIIN G-VIIS (15)
Refreshed 2010 First, 2019 CWS, 2010 WT+, 2018 WT (10 abreast) and Thales IFE
Type 77R 777-200ER
Refurbished four class: 14F 48J 40W 134M
G-VIIV G-VIIW G-VIIY (3)
2010 First, 2006 CW, 2018 WT+/WT (10 abreast) and Panasonic ex3 IFE
Three class 777-200
Type 77L 777-200ER
Refurbished three class: 48J 40W 184M; fitted with new Club World Suites
G-YMMG G-YMMH G-YMMI G-YMMJ G-YMMK G-YMML G-YMMN G-YMMO G-YMMP G-YMMR G-YMMS G-YMMT G-YMMU (13)
2019 CWS, 2018 WT+, 2018 WT (10 abreast) and Panasonic ex3 IFE
Type 77S 777-200ER
Refurbished three class: 32J 48W 252M
G-YMMA G-YMMB G-YMMC G-YMMD G-YMME G-YMMF (6)
2006 CW, 2018 WT+/WT (10 abreast) and Panasonic ex3 IFE
Type 77T 777-200ER
Refurbished three class: 32J 52W 252M
G-VIIO G-VIIP G-VIIR G-VIIT G-VIIU G-VIIX (6)
2006 CW, 2018 WT+/WT (10 abreast) and Panasonic ex3 IFE
Four class 777-300
Type 77G 777-300ER
Four class: 14F 56J 44W 183M
G-STBB G-STBC G-STBI (3)
2010 First, 2006 CW, 2010 WT+/WT and Thales IFE
Type 77H 777-300ER
Four class: 8F 76J 40W 130M
G-STBA G-STBD G-STBE G-STBF G-STBG G-STBH G-STBJ G-STBK G-STBL G-STBM G-STBN G-STBO G-STBP (13)
2020 First, 2019 CW, 2018 WT+/WT and Panasonic eX3 IFE
Related threads:
A guide to BA's 777 fleet
LGW & LHR selected 777s go 10-abreast (3-4-3) in Y 2018 onwards
New BA First Class? [8F configured Boeing 772]
The following triple-seven seat maps have been prepared for quick comparison and reference.
MMB/Expertflyer Aircraft Codes:
777 = 777-200ER (77M, 77R, 77J, 77L,77S, 77T) and 777-300ER (77G)
77W = 777-300ER (77H and 77G (occasionally))
Type 77M 777-200ER
Refurbished four class: 8F 49J 40W 138M; fitted with new Club World Suites
G-RAES G-VIIA G-VIIB G-VIIC G-VIID G-VIIE G-VIIF G-VIIG G-VIIH G-VIIJ G-VIIK G-VIIL G-VIIM G-VIIN G-VIIS (15)
Refreshed 2010 First, 2019 CWS, 2010 WT+, 2018 WT (10 abreast) and Thales IFE
Type 77R 777-200ER
Refurbished four class: 14F 48J 40W 134M
G-VIIV G-VIIW G-VIIY (3)
2010 First, 2006 CW, 2018 WT+/WT (10 abreast) and Panasonic ex3 IFE
Three class 777-200
Type 77L 777-200ER
Refurbished three class: 48J 40W 184M; fitted with new Club World Suites
G-YMMG G-YMMH G-YMMI G-YMMJ G-YMMK G-YMML G-YMMN G-YMMO G-YMMP G-YMMR G-YMMS G-YMMT G-YMMU (13)
2019 CWS, 2018 WT+, 2018 WT (10 abreast) and Panasonic ex3 IFE
Type 77S 777-200ER
Refurbished three class: 32J 48W 252M
G-YMMA G-YMMB G-YMMC G-YMMD G-YMME G-YMMF (6)
2006 CW, 2018 WT+/WT (10 abreast) and Panasonic ex3 IFE
Type 77T 777-200ER
Refurbished three class: 32J 52W 252M
G-VIIO G-VIIP G-VIIR G-VIIT G-VIIU G-VIIX (6)
2006 CW, 2018 WT+/WT (10 abreast) and Panasonic ex3 IFE
Four class 777-300
Type 77G 777-300ER
Four class: 14F 56J 44W 183M
G-STBB G-STBC G-STBI (3)
2010 First, 2006 CW, 2010 WT+/WT and Thales IFE
Type 77H 777-300ER
Four class: 8F 76J 40W 130M
G-STBA G-STBD G-STBE G-STBF G-STBG G-STBH G-STBJ G-STBK G-STBL G-STBM G-STBN G-STBO G-STBP (13)
2020 First, 2019 CW, 2018 WT+/WT and Panasonic eX3 IFE
Related threads:
A guide to BA's 777 fleet
LGW & LHR selected 777s go 10-abreast (3-4-3) in Y 2018 onwards
New BA First Class? [8F configured Boeing 772]
Seating guide: Boeing 777
Dec 28, 2021, 12:25 pm
#1111
Join Date: Oct 2019
Posts: 35
Travelling Club World to PHX, out end of Jan, back Feb. MMB seat map suggests that this is an old style 77G layout based on the seats that are available to select, ie rows 10-16. However 77G also has a First section which isnt available on the the Phoenix route. In addition, I've seen something that suggests PHX will be CS from next year. Any idea whats going on? TIA
Jan 3, 2022, 5:57 am
#1112
Join Date: May 2018
Location: Essex
Programs: BA Gold
Posts: 271
Hi folks, flying to JFK next month (BA173, 1st Feb) and our seat map is showing WTP seats in rows 30-34 which I don’t think matches up to any maps I’ve seen. Any idea if this is just an error or are we now flying on an unknown mystery plane?
Last edited by richiejv; Jan 3, 2022 at 6:03 am
Jan 3, 2022, 6:03 am
#1113
Join Date: Jun 2020
Programs: BAEC GGL
Posts: 46
Jan 3, 2022, 6:10 am
#1114
Join Date: Dec 2019
Location: UK
Programs: BAEC Silver
Posts: 657
probably a 77H - aerolopa is at good source of BA seat maps
Jan 12, 2022, 4:44 am
#1115
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Bournemouth
Programs: BA Gold Virgin Atlantic Silver Hilton Honors Silver
Posts: 13
Due to fly Club World MCO LHR in 3 weeks, seating arbitrarily reassigned from 1A and 1B and seating plan removed from BA booking system (Still showing for Outbound). Can live with being bumped but would at least like to chose alternative’s just wondered if anyone had any ideas why they’d remove plan.
TIA
TIA
Jan 12, 2022, 5:21 am
#1116
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: LCY is always preferred
Programs: BAEC Gold, IHG Silver, HHonors Gold
Posts: 1,026
Due to fly Club World MCO LHR in 3 weeks, seating arbitrarily reassigned from 1A and 1B and seating plan removed from BA booking system (Still showing for Outbound). Can live with being bumped but would at least like to chose alternative’s just wondered if anyone had any ideas why they’d remove plan.
TIA
TIA
Jan 12, 2022, 5:42 am
#1117
Join Date: Aug 2020
Location: Gloucestershire
Posts: 63
I’ll be on your flight! According to Expert Flyer it will be a 77W. This is the new 4-class 777-300ER.
Jan 12, 2022, 6:38 am
#1118
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: LCY is always preferred
Programs: BAEC Gold, IHG Silver, HHonors Gold
Posts: 1,026
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Jan 13, 2022, 5:47 am
#1119
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 67
I wonder if anyone can help.
I'm flying out to Orlando from London Heathrow in October 2022. BA205 and we are flying WTP.
This was originally as a A350 but has since changed to 777.
We've just booked our seats and the plane has WTP as rows 21-25 - 40 seats in total.
Having looked at the original WIKI, there is only 1 aircraft which has WTP rows 21-25 and that's Type 77R (777-200ER Refurbished four class: 14F 48J 40W 134M, G-VIIV (Stored at TEV) G-VIIW (Stored at TEV) G-VIIY (3), 2010 First, 2006 CW, 2018 WT+/WT (10 abreast) and Panasonic ex3)
This Aircraft type shows it's 4 class type. The strange thing is, if you try to make a booking on this flight no first comes up?
I've used ExpertFlyer and it seems to show business class from rows 10-15, however it also displays what appears to be First seats ahead of it just blocked off..
Do BA simply fly 777's with First blocked and empty on these legs or is it likely between now and October 2022 some aircrafts will change and they will indeed have WTP rows 21-25?
Thanks
I'm flying out to Orlando from London Heathrow in October 2022. BA205 and we are flying WTP.
This was originally as a A350 but has since changed to 777.
We've just booked our seats and the plane has WTP as rows 21-25 - 40 seats in total.
Having looked at the original WIKI, there is only 1 aircraft which has WTP rows 21-25 and that's Type 77R (777-200ER Refurbished four class: 14F 48J 40W 134M, G-VIIV (Stored at TEV) G-VIIW (Stored at TEV) G-VIIY (3), 2010 First, 2006 CW, 2018 WT+/WT (10 abreast) and Panasonic ex3)
This Aircraft type shows it's 4 class type. The strange thing is, if you try to make a booking on this flight no first comes up?
I've used ExpertFlyer and it seems to show business class from rows 10-15, however it also displays what appears to be First seats ahead of it just blocked off..
Do BA simply fly 777's with First blocked and empty on these legs or is it likely between now and October 2022 some aircrafts will change and they will indeed have WTP rows 21-25?
Thanks
Jan 13, 2022, 5:56 am
#1120
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: London
Programs: Mucci. Nothing else matters.
Posts: 38,644
But yes: sometimes 4-class aircraft are operated on 3-class routes. See https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/brit...-aircraft.html - but don't count on this being the case on your flight, when it actually comes time for it.
Jan 13, 2022, 6:03 am
#1121
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: London
Programs: BA GGL / GfL
Posts: 3,261
I wonder if anyone can help.
I'm flying out to Orlando from London Heathrow in October 2022. BA205 and we are flying WTP.
This was originally as a A350 but has since changed to 777.
We've just booked our seats and the plane has WTP as rows 21-25 - 40 seats in total.
Having looked at the original WIKI, there is only 1 aircraft which has WTP rows 21-25 and that's Type 77R (777-200ER Refurbished four class: 14F 48J 40W 134M, G-VIIV (Stored at TEV) G-VIIW (Stored at TEV) G-VIIY (3), 2010 First, 2006 CW, 2018 WT+/WT (10 abreast) and Panasonic ex3)
This Aircraft type shows it's 4 class type. The strange thing is, if you try to make a booking on this flight no first comes up?
I've used ExpertFlyer and it seems to show business class from rows 10-15, however it also displays what appears to be First seats ahead of it just blocked off..
Do BA simply fly 777's with First blocked and empty on these legs or is it likely between now and October 2022 some aircrafts will change and they will indeed have WTP rows 21-25?
Thanks
I'm flying out to Orlando from London Heathrow in October 2022. BA205 and we are flying WTP.
This was originally as a A350 but has since changed to 777.
We've just booked our seats and the plane has WTP as rows 21-25 - 40 seats in total.
Having looked at the original WIKI, there is only 1 aircraft which has WTP rows 21-25 and that's Type 77R (777-200ER Refurbished four class: 14F 48J 40W 134M, G-VIIV (Stored at TEV) G-VIIW (Stored at TEV) G-VIIY (3), 2010 First, 2006 CW, 2018 WT+/WT (10 abreast) and Panasonic ex3)
This Aircraft type shows it's 4 class type. The strange thing is, if you try to make a booking on this flight no first comes up?
I've used ExpertFlyer and it seems to show business class from rows 10-15, however it also displays what appears to be First seats ahead of it just blocked off..
Do BA simply fly 777's with First blocked and empty on these legs or is it likely between now and October 2022 some aircrafts will change and they will indeed have WTP rows 21-25?
Thanks
The MCO route is one that is not served with a First class cabin, but as you have noted BA have been left with 3 odd-ball LGW aircraft with old 14 seat F cabins post the original LGW refurb before F was pulled from LGW. Two of the three aircraft are currently in storage, but appear to be back on some Caribbean services and the Orlando route for the summer schedule. First won't be sold, but it can be used as overflow from CW in the event some of these flights fill up, and in that case First will be used to seat CW passengers and they will get CW service, but with a nicer seat. Obviously October is a long time away and the planes may change to a normal 3-class B777 aircraft, but hopefully that gives you some background to what you are seeing via EF.
Pilot37
Jan 13, 2022, 6:14 am
#1122
Join Date: Dec 2019
Location: UK
Programs: BAEC Silver
Posts: 657
This Aircraft type shows it's 4 class type. The strange thing is, if you try to make a booking on this flight no first comes up?
I've used ExpertFlyer and it seems to show business class from rows 10-15, however it also displays what appears to be First seats ahead of it just blocked off..
Do BA simply fly 777's with First blocked and empty on these legs or is it likely between now and October 2022 some aircrafts will change and they will indeed have WTP rows 21-25?
Thanks
I've used ExpertFlyer and it seems to show business class from rows 10-15, however it also displays what appears to be First seats ahead of it just blocked off..
Do BA simply fly 777's with First blocked and empty on these legs or is it likely between now and October 2022 some aircrafts will change and they will indeed have WTP rows 21-25?
Thanks
Jan 13, 2022, 6:20 am
#1123
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 67
Thanks for your replies! Appreciated!
On another subject - although 777 related.
I'm also flying to EWR in December in First. Currently 77M 8 seats in F. Have there been talks that these older 2010 First seats will be updated to the newer 2020 type?
Thanks
On another subject - although 777 related.
I'm also flying to EWR in December in First. Currently 77M 8 seats in F. Have there been talks that these older 2010 First seats will be updated to the newer 2020 type?
Thanks
Jan 13, 2022, 9:06 am
#1124
Join Date: Dec 2017
Posts: 209
Got the choice of Club Suite or the ancient CW on one of the five 2006 vintage 777s coming back from CPT in a couple of weeks. Not a regular club traveler and have never used the new club suites. I know it’s an obvious answer to most, however I am 6’4 and the Club suites look a bit tight for the lankier traveler. 5K is available on the old CW flight, which is a rear facing ‘bulkhead’ window which I gather would have slightly more legroom. Which flight is likely to be more comfortable?
Jan 13, 2022, 9:24 am
#1125
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: London, UK
Programs: IHG Platinum; Marriott Silver; Avis president's: Hertz President's
Posts: 226
The timing of the flight may be a bigger factor in terms of comfort. The club suites are mostly on the later flight for that route, or so it seems for the end of this month/early Feb. The first flight gets in to LHR at about 5 am. So there will be clanking in the galley (not far from 5k) from about 3am UK time/5 am SA time. You probably will get a bit more room in the older configuration, but perhaps not more sleep.