Jan 3, 2015, 4:45 am
Last edit by: TravellerFrequently
2015 POUG rate tracker
Please add your own successful results to the follow list including the month/year when the POUG was offered to you.
POUGs are offered via BA.com and the App Manage My Booking via a distinctive banner. You cannot get a POUG by telephoning, however the service centres can complete a POUG which falls over mid transaction. They are offered on cash and Avios redemptions but typically not on complex routings, BA Holidays or travel agency bookings until OLCI stage. POUGs on Avios redemptions won't get you additional TPs/Avios, but they will on revenue tickets.
Short haul routes from LON to/from Europe
A price in pounds indicates a ticket issued from London, other currencies indicate prices for tickets issued overseas (e.g. singles or returns originating from CDG priced in Euros). Multiple prices indicate a range of fares are on offer. Note that LCY prices currently seem to be on a different basis to LGW and LHR (cheaper, in other words).
Long haul routes from LON to North America
(price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
Long haul routes from LON to South America
(price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
Long haul routes from LON to Asia
(price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
Long haul routes from LON to Australia and Oceania
(price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
Long haul routes from LON to Africa and Middle East
(price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
Long haul routes to LON
(price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
POUG terms and conditions can be found by clicking here.
Please add your own successful results to the follow list including the month/year when the POUG was offered to you.
POUGs are offered via BA.com and the App Manage My Booking via a distinctive banner. You cannot get a POUG by telephoning, however the service centres can complete a POUG which falls over mid transaction. They are offered on cash and Avios redemptions but typically not on complex routings, BA Holidays or travel agency bookings until OLCI stage. POUGs on Avios redemptions won't get you additional TPs/Avios, but they will on revenue tickets.
Short haul routes from LON to/from Europe
A price in pounds indicates a ticket issued from London, other currencies indicate prices for tickets issued overseas (e.g. singles or returns originating from CDG priced in Euros). Multiple prices indicate a range of fares are on offer. Note that LCY prices currently seem to be on a different basis to LGW and LHR (cheaper, in other words).
- ACE – £119 (May 2015)
- AGP – £99/€119 (Dec 2014) £179 (July 2015)
- AMS - £109 (LHR Dec 2015 - both ways for Jan 2016), £69 for LCY (Jan 2015), €89 to LGW both ways (Jul 2015) £79 from LGW (May 2015), €90 to LHR (May 2015)
- AMS - £79 (Jan 2015) ex LGW - return also offered
- ANE - €79 (Mar 2015) to LCY
- ARN - £105 / LHR-ARN B767 (Mar 2015) £72 LHR-ARN (May 2015)
- ATH - £109 (Oct 2014) / £179 (Jan 15), £160 (Apr 2015), €280 to LHR (May 2015)
- BCN – €139 (Jan 2015) £89 (Feb 2015 LHR-BCN) £115 (Apr 2015 BCN-LHR), £89 (Apr 2015 LGW)
- BGO - £75 and £65 (Jan 2015 and Apr 2015)
- BOD - £104 from HBO (Feb 2015)
- BRI - £119 / €144 (Dec 2014)
- BRU - £105 (Feb 2015) /£120 (March 2015) /€135 (Jan 2015) / £115 (Jun 2015)
- BSL - CHF120 (Dec 2014) / CHF190 (Sep 2015)
- BUD - £89 also £105 (Dec 2014) and £120 (Jan 2015)
- CDG - €115 (Dec 2014), £75 (Mar 2015) £99 (April 2015), £80 (Jul 2015). £89 (Dec 2015)
- CMF - £69 (Dec 2014) Note LCY.
- CPH - £129 (Nov 2014) £125 (Jan 2015) 950 DKK (£95 - Jul 2015), £159 (Apr 2015), £120 (May 2015)
- CTA - £119/€144 (Dec 2014 and June 2015)
- DBV - £89 LGW (Nov 2015)
- DUB – €119 (to LHR, Dec 2015), £80 and £95 LHR (Jan & Mar 2015) £99 (Nov 2014); £95 LCY (Jan 2015), £80 LCY (Mar 2015), £105 (Apr 2015), €105 (to LHR, June 2015), £115 (LHR, Jun/Jul 2015)
- DUS - €125 (Jan 2015) €79 to LCY (Apr 2015) £69 to LCY (May 2015)
- FCO - £170 (Dec 2014) / €155 LHR & €109 LGW (Mar 2015), £155 (Apr 2015)
- FRA - €145 (to LHR, Dec 2015), £105 (Jan 2015) £109 (Nov 2015)
- GIB - £140 Dec 2014)
- GOT – £90 (Jan 2015) £79 (Nov 2014), SEK 990/GBP 76 (Oct 2015)
- GVA - £79/£89 (Nov 2014) £105 (Jan 2015) £120 (May 2015 from HBO) £105 both ways (05/15)
- HAM - £90 both ways (Jan 2015) £79 both ways (Sep 15 from HBO)
- HEL – €155 back (Dec 2014) £130 (July 2015, HEL-LHR)
- INN – £89/€109 back (Dec 2014)
- IST - £130 both ways (May 2015) £150 (May 2015, IST-LHR)
- JER - £99 (Jan 2015), £79 (Mar 2015), £79 (Oct 2015), £79 (Nove 2015)
- LCA – £210 (Feb2015)
- LED - £189 (Oct 2015)
- LIN – £175 (Jan 2015), £189 (Nov 2015)
- LIS – £80/£119/£145 (Nov 2014 / Dec 2014), £145 (Jul 2015 & Jan 2016)
- LPA - €125 back to LHR (May 2015)
- LUX - £120 offered to LHR (Feb 2015)
- MAD - £110 to LHR (Mar 2015 from HBO), £75 exLHR (June 2015), €89 MAD-LCY-MAD for Oct 2015
- MAH - £69 (Apr 2015). Note LCY.
- MLA - €154 (Jan 2015), €119 (Oct 2015)
- MUC - £105 (May 2015), £109 (Sep 2015 from HBO)
- MXP - £180 (Jan 2015)
- NCE - £140 (Dec 2014), £114 ex-LGW £145 to LHR (Apr 2015 from HBO)
- ORY - £99 (Jan 2015), £69 (Mar 2015) £90 April 2015
- OSL - NOK1200 = £100 (Feb 2015), £120 (May 2015), £91 (Aug 2015), £159 (Jan & Mar 2016 )
- OTP - £185 (Jan 2015)
- PFO - £119 (Sep 2015)
- PMI - £69 (Mar 2015), €79 (Mar 2015). Note LCY. PMI-LHR €175 (Mar 2015) / EUR 180 (Apr 2015) / EUR 205 (Oct 2015)
- PRG - £79/£120 (Dec 2014/Jan 2015), £149 (Dec 2015)
- PSA - £165 (Feb 2015), £89 (Oct 2015)
- RTM - £65 (Jan 2015, ex LHR)
- SVG - NOK 720 (Dec 2015), NOK 720 (Aug 2015), £99 each way (Dec 2015)
- SZG - £114 (Dec 2014)
- TIA – £99/€119 (Dec 2014) €159 (Mar 2015)
- TXL – £115 (Dec 2015) / €150 (Jan 2015) / £120 (Feb/Mar 2015) / €125 (Apr 2015) / £119 July 2015
- UIP - £69 (Mar 2015). Note LCY.
- VCE - £145 (Jan 2015)
- VIE – £149 (Aug '15) £135 (July '15) £145 (Jan '15) £99 and £129 (Nov 14)
- VRN - £89 / €109 (Dec 2014)
- WAW - £139 for LHR-WAW-LHR Oct 2015, 475 PLN (£79) for WAW-LHR (Jan 2016)
- ZAG - £89 for ZAG-LHR Aug 2015, €130 ZAG-LHR Nov 2015
- ZRH – £87 / CHF135 (Dec 14) LCY flights £69 (Nov 2014), £105 (LHR, Jul 2015)
Long haul routes from LON to North America
(price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
- AUS - WTP $229 (Nov 2015), CW £473 (Feb 2015)
- BOS - WTP $189 (Apr 2015)
- JFK – WTP £147 (Jan and Apr 2015)
- IAD – WTP $288 (Jan 2015)
- LAS – WTP £198 (Aug 2015)
- LAX - CW £540 (Feb 2015)
- ORD - CW GBP 473 (Nov 2015)
- SFO – WTP $310 (Nov 2015)
- YUL – CW £405 (Jan 2015 - Post #95)
- YYZ - CW GBP 350 (Jun 2015)
Long haul routes from LON to South America
(price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
Long haul routes from LON to Asia
(price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
- BOM –WTP £168 (Dec 2015)
- PVG – CW £440 (Jan 2015)
- HKG - WTP £207 (Jan 2015)
- NRT - WTP £207 (Apr 2015)
- BKK - WTP £229 (Aug 2016)
Long haul routes from LON to Australia and Oceania
(price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
- LHR-SYD – WTP £159 (Apr 2015)
Long haul routes from LON to Africa and Middle East
(price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
- DXB – WTP £150 (Jan 2015)
- DXB – CW £499 (Feb 2015)
- TLV - WTP £153 (Apr 2015)
Long haul routes to LON
(price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
- BOS - WTP $189 (Apr 2015), F $850 then $763 (Nov 2015)
- DME - WTP £145 (Nov 2015)
- DXB – CW £499 (Jan 2015)
- DXB – CW £299 (Nov 2015)
- GIG – F £447 (Jan 2015)
- HKG – WTP £161 (Jan 2015)
- HKG - CW £540 (Mar 2015)
- HKG - CW £599 (Mar 2015 for travel in April)
- IAD - WTP £185 (Apr 2015)
- JFK – WTP £168 (Jan 2015)
- JFK – F £508 (Dec 2015)
- MCO - WTP £170 (Sep 2015)
- MIA - WTP £176 (Nov 2015)
- ORD - CW GBP 473 (Nov 2015) increased to GBP 525 in 4 hours.
- PEK - CW GBP 549 (Aug 2015)
- SFO – WTP $310 (Nov 2015)
- SIN – CW £549 (Mar 2015)
- SIN – WTP £198 (Jun 2015)
- SYD – CW £500 (Jan 2015)
- YYZ - CW GBP 450 (Jun 2015)
- YYZ – CW C$723 (Nov 2015)
- YYZ - WTP GBP 189 (Jun 2015)
POUG terms and conditions can be found by clicking here.
Pro-active Online Upgrade (POUG) tracking and discussion | 2015 thread
Jan 17, 2015, 7:14 am
#106
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: usually LON
Programs: BA Gold (OWE), Tesco Blue, TK Elite (*G), Oyster Diamond Jubilee edition
Posts: 1,546
£120 on PRG-LHR at OLCI
no thanks
no thanks
Jan 17, 2015, 9:20 am
#107
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 11,593
The new POUG prices are getting as ridiculous as the KL ones. At least BA give extra Avios and TPs.
Jan 17, 2015, 11:13 am
#108
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Cumbria
Programs: BAEC GGL/CCR, Hilton Diamond, Starbucks Gold
Posts: 4,510
Offered this morning, a week or so after the outbound, AMS/LHR for £90. The original HBO fare was £85.61 so £265.61 in total for the day return on Sunday 25/1.
Jan 18, 2015, 3:41 am
#109
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Cumbria
Programs: BAEC GGL/CCR, Hilton Diamond, Starbucks Gold
Posts: 4,510
Quick question, if you have a booking for three, is it possible to POUG only one person in the party or would you need separate bookings?
Jan 18, 2015, 4:24 am
#110
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: London
Programs: BA Gold / OnBusiness, SPG Lifetime Plat 100, AmEx Centurion & BAPP, Superking Westin Heavenly Bed :)
Posts: 1,142
Online, it's very much an "all or none" policy I'm afraid. To POUG just one person in the booking, I suspect you'd have to do that via the call centre, but I'm not even sure if they'd be able to do it without splitting bookings and all sorts of other pallava's.
Jan 18, 2015, 4:32 am
#111
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Yorkshire
Programs: BA Gold & HH Silver
Posts: 1,465
The problem is, the POU is being offered to that booking based on it's individual characteristics (No, its not predictable!) If you split the booking, theres no guarantee that the POU will be offered on the divided booking.
Jan 18, 2015, 6:32 am
#112
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: LHR
Programs: BA Silver/ows, CX AsiaMiles (not even GR anymore!) missing my GO days
Posts: 1,581
I'm being offered GBP150 for LHR-ATH (from a non-HBO fare). Correct me if I'm wrong, but that's not a terribly good value if I'm after tier points, right? At the moment I'd earn 20 in discount Y. The additional 60 tp work out to gbp2.5 per point?
I should add, this would get me to Silver in one fell swoop, instead of waiting for an upcoming trip in April.
I should add, this would get me to Silver in one fell swoop, instead of waiting for an upcoming trip in April.
Last edited by CrazyJ82; Jan 18, 2015 at 6:37 am
Jan 18, 2015, 7:00 am
#113
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Location: London, UK
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Posts: 16,356
I think it's reasonable value for one of the longest shorthaul flights.
Jan 18, 2015, 7:20 am
#114
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Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: London
Programs: BA GGL, AA 1MM LT GLD, SPG PLAT, National Exec Selc, Hilton Diamond, Hyatt Plat, Marriott Silver
Posts: 8,278
I'm being offered GBP150 for LHR-ATH (from a non-HBO fare). Correct me if I'm wrong, but that's not a terribly good value if I'm after tier points, right? At the moment I'd earn 20 in discount Y. The additional 60 tp work out to gbp2.5 per point?
I should add, this would get me to Silver in one fell swoop, instead of waiting for an upcoming trip in April.
I should add, this would get me to Silver in one fell swoop, instead of waiting for an upcoming trip in April.
(1) What is your actual value of the upgrade? On a Band 1 flight or an LCY flight or something, I could understand it being very minimal. But ATH is a 3-4 hour flight (depending on direction). There is clearly benefit to being in CE besides TPs. Especially if you are on a 320. I'd probably put that at 75 GBP. So you're down to 1.25 per TP. For example, I recently paid 70 GBP extra to just buy J MUC-LHR. I probably value that upgrade at 30-40 GBP for the upgrade itself. So the TPs are a 1.00-1.33 GBP per point.
(2) Will you have to MR for additional TPs later in the year? I would certainly value buying TPs on trips I'm already taking vs. wasting time with an MR even if the TPs are cheaper.
In theory, your value of the upgrades should be higher than mine because you are only Bronze and therefore don't have lounge access. The fact that I'm a OWE notably diminishes what I'm willing to pay for the upgrade portion of a POUG or Y to J fare difference within Europe.
Jan 18, 2015, 7:21 am
#115
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Location: London
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105 GBP each way to GVA this week. I'm going to pass.
Jan 18, 2015, 7:30 am
#116
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: LHR
Programs: BA Silver/ows, CX AsiaMiles (not even GR anymore!) missing my GO days
Posts: 1,581
You need to factor in two other things:
(1) What is your actual value of the upgrade? On a Band 1 flight or an LCY flight or something, I could understand it being very minimal. But ATH is a 3-4 hour flight (depending on direction). There is clearly benefit to being in CE besides TPs. Especially if you are on a 320. I'd probably put that at 75 GBP. So you're down to 1.25 per TP. For example, I recently paid 70 GBP extra to just buy J MUC-LHR. I probably value that upgrade at 30-40 GBP for the upgrade itself. So the TPs are a 1.00-1.33 GBP per point.
(2) Will you have to MR for additional TPs later in the year? I would certainly value buying TPs on trips I'm already taking vs. wasting time with an MR even if the TPs are cheaper.
In theory, your value of the upgrades should be higher than mine because you are only Bronze and therefore don't have lounge access. The fact that I'm a OWE notably diminishes what I'm willing to pay for the upgrade portion of a POUG or Y to J fare difference within Europe.
(1) What is your actual value of the upgrade? On a Band 1 flight or an LCY flight or something, I could understand it being very minimal. But ATH is a 3-4 hour flight (depending on direction). There is clearly benefit to being in CE besides TPs. Especially if you are on a 320. I'd probably put that at 75 GBP. So you're down to 1.25 per TP. For example, I recently paid 70 GBP extra to just buy J MUC-LHR. I probably value that upgrade at 30-40 GBP for the upgrade itself. So the TPs are a 1.00-1.33 GBP per point.
(2) Will you have to MR for additional TPs later in the year? I would certainly value buying TPs on trips I'm already taking vs. wasting time with an MR even if the TPs are cheaper.
In theory, your value of the upgrades should be higher than mine because you are only Bronze and therefore don't have lounge access. The fact that I'm a OWE notably diminishes what I'm willing to pay for the upgrade portion of a POUG or Y to J fare difference within Europe.
Jan 18, 2015, 9:54 am
#117
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Location: London
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Posts: 2,000
AMS ex Gatters - £79 each way on HBO
Pondering if 80 quid for 30 TPs is value, I will exiting Jan on 1320 Tier points and a end of year of May 9th
Pondering if 80 quid for 30 TPs is value, I will exiting Jan on 1320 Tier points and a end of year of May 9th
Jan 18, 2015, 11:50 am
#119
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: London
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Posts: 6,720
Two friends on holiday in SYD have a POUG of about £500 to upgrade from WTP to CW for their flight back.
They jumped at the offer and looking forward to the flight, especially as most of their travel is in WTP.
Wiki updated.
They jumped at the offer and looking forward to the flight, especially as most of their travel is in WTP.
Wiki updated.
Jan 19, 2015, 12:45 am
#120
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Epsom
Programs: BAEC Gold
Posts: 3
Within the last year LHR-FRA has increased from £69 to £79, then £99 and now (Jan 2015) to £105. When I and other colleagues started out in 2013 it was £59. ~44% increase over 2 years? Certainly looks like BA is doing rather well out of POUG, unless the price it's offering me is higher because I've got 'Gold' mug written all-over my forehead?
PS would someone kindly update FRA to £105 in the list above? Thx
PS would someone kindly update FRA to £105 in the list above? Thx