Jan 3, 2015, 4:45 am
Last edit by: TravellerFrequently
2015 POUG rate tracker
Please add your own successful results to the follow list including the month/year when the POUG was offered to you.
POUGs are offered via BA.com and the App Manage My Booking via a distinctive banner. You cannot get a POUG by telephoning, however the service centres can complete a POUG which falls over mid transaction. They are offered on cash and Avios redemptions but typically not on complex routings, BA Holidays or travel agency bookings until OLCI stage. POUGs on Avios redemptions won't get you additional TPs/Avios, but they will on revenue tickets.
Short haul routes from LON to/from Europe
A price in pounds indicates a ticket issued from London, other currencies indicate prices for tickets issued overseas (e.g. singles or returns originating from CDG priced in Euros). Multiple prices indicate a range of fares are on offer. Note that LCY prices currently seem to be on a different basis to LGW and LHR (cheaper, in other words).
Long haul routes from LON to North America
(price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
Long haul routes from LON to South America
(price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
Long haul routes from LON to Asia
(price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
Long haul routes from LON to Australia and Oceania
(price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
Long haul routes from LON to Africa and Middle East
(price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
Long haul routes to LON
(price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
POUG terms and conditions can be found by clicking here.
Please add your own successful results to the follow list including the month/year when the POUG was offered to you.
POUGs are offered via BA.com and the App Manage My Booking via a distinctive banner. You cannot get a POUG by telephoning, however the service centres can complete a POUG which falls over mid transaction. They are offered on cash and Avios redemptions but typically not on complex routings, BA Holidays or travel agency bookings until OLCI stage. POUGs on Avios redemptions won't get you additional TPs/Avios, but they will on revenue tickets.
Short haul routes from LON to/from Europe
A price in pounds indicates a ticket issued from London, other currencies indicate prices for tickets issued overseas (e.g. singles or returns originating from CDG priced in Euros). Multiple prices indicate a range of fares are on offer. Note that LCY prices currently seem to be on a different basis to LGW and LHR (cheaper, in other words).
- ACE – £119 (May 2015)
- AGP – £99/€119 (Dec 2014) £179 (July 2015)
- AMS - £109 (LHR Dec 2015 - both ways for Jan 2016), £69 for LCY (Jan 2015), €89 to LGW both ways (Jul 2015) £79 from LGW (May 2015), €90 to LHR (May 2015)
- AMS - £79 (Jan 2015) ex LGW - return also offered
- ANE - €79 (Mar 2015) to LCY
- ARN - £105 / LHR-ARN B767 (Mar 2015) £72 LHR-ARN (May 2015)
- ATH - £109 (Oct 2014) / £179 (Jan 15), £160 (Apr 2015), €280 to LHR (May 2015)
- BCN – €139 (Jan 2015) £89 (Feb 2015 LHR-BCN) £115 (Apr 2015 BCN-LHR), £89 (Apr 2015 LGW)
- BGO - £75 and £65 (Jan 2015 and Apr 2015)
- BOD - £104 from HBO (Feb 2015)
- BRI - £119 / €144 (Dec 2014)
- BRU - £105 (Feb 2015) /£120 (March 2015) /€135 (Jan 2015) / £115 (Jun 2015)
- BSL - CHF120 (Dec 2014) / CHF190 (Sep 2015)
- BUD - £89 also £105 (Dec 2014) and £120 (Jan 2015)
- CDG - €115 (Dec 2014), £75 (Mar 2015) £99 (April 2015), £80 (Jul 2015). £89 (Dec 2015)
- CMF - £69 (Dec 2014) Note LCY.
- CPH - £129 (Nov 2014) £125 (Jan 2015) 950 DKK (£95 - Jul 2015), £159 (Apr 2015), £120 (May 2015)
- CTA - £119/€144 (Dec 2014 and June 2015)
- DBV - £89 LGW (Nov 2015)
- DUB – €119 (to LHR, Dec 2015), £80 and £95 LHR (Jan & Mar 2015) £99 (Nov 2014); £95 LCY (Jan 2015), £80 LCY (Mar 2015), £105 (Apr 2015), €105 (to LHR, June 2015), £115 (LHR, Jun/Jul 2015)
- DUS - €125 (Jan 2015) €79 to LCY (Apr 2015) £69 to LCY (May 2015)
- FCO - £170 (Dec 2014) / €155 LHR & €109 LGW (Mar 2015), £155 (Apr 2015)
- FRA - €145 (to LHR, Dec 2015), £105 (Jan 2015) £109 (Nov 2015)
- GIB - £140 Dec 2014)
- GOT – £90 (Jan 2015) £79 (Nov 2014), SEK 990/GBP 76 (Oct 2015)
- GVA - £79/£89 (Nov 2014) £105 (Jan 2015) £120 (May 2015 from HBO) £105 both ways (05/15)
- HAM - £90 both ways (Jan 2015) £79 both ways (Sep 15 from HBO)
- HEL – €155 back (Dec 2014) £130 (July 2015, HEL-LHR)
- INN – £89/€109 back (Dec 2014)
- IST - £130 both ways (May 2015) £150 (May 2015, IST-LHR)
- JER - £99 (Jan 2015), £79 (Mar 2015), £79 (Oct 2015), £79 (Nove 2015)
- LCA – £210 (Feb2015)
- LED - £189 (Oct 2015)
- LIN – £175 (Jan 2015), £189 (Nov 2015)
- LIS – £80/£119/£145 (Nov 2014 / Dec 2014), £145 (Jul 2015 & Jan 2016)
- LPA - €125 back to LHR (May 2015)
- LUX - £120 offered to LHR (Feb 2015)
- MAD - £110 to LHR (Mar 2015 from HBO), £75 exLHR (June 2015), €89 MAD-LCY-MAD for Oct 2015
- MAH - £69 (Apr 2015). Note LCY.
- MLA - €154 (Jan 2015), €119 (Oct 2015)
- MUC - £105 (May 2015), £109 (Sep 2015 from HBO)
- MXP - £180 (Jan 2015)
- NCE - £140 (Dec 2014), £114 ex-LGW £145 to LHR (Apr 2015 from HBO)
- ORY - £99 (Jan 2015), £69 (Mar 2015) £90 April 2015
- OSL - NOK1200 = £100 (Feb 2015), £120 (May 2015), £91 (Aug 2015), £159 (Jan & Mar 2016 )
- OTP - £185 (Jan 2015)
- PFO - £119 (Sep 2015)
- PMI - £69 (Mar 2015), €79 (Mar 2015). Note LCY. PMI-LHR €175 (Mar 2015) / EUR 180 (Apr 2015) / EUR 205 (Oct 2015)
- PRG - £79/£120 (Dec 2014/Jan 2015), £149 (Dec 2015)
- PSA - £165 (Feb 2015), £89 (Oct 2015)
- RTM - £65 (Jan 2015, ex LHR)
- SVG - NOK 720 (Dec 2015), NOK 720 (Aug 2015), £99 each way (Dec 2015)
- SZG - £114 (Dec 2014)
- TIA – £99/€119 (Dec 2014) €159 (Mar 2015)
- TXL – £115 (Dec 2015) / €150 (Jan 2015) / £120 (Feb/Mar 2015) / €125 (Apr 2015) / £119 July 2015
- UIP - £69 (Mar 2015). Note LCY.
- VCE - £145 (Jan 2015)
- VIE – £149 (Aug '15) £135 (July '15) £145 (Jan '15) £99 and £129 (Nov 14)
- VRN - £89 / €109 (Dec 2014)
- WAW - £139 for LHR-WAW-LHR Oct 2015, 475 PLN (£79) for WAW-LHR (Jan 2016)
- ZAG - £89 for ZAG-LHR Aug 2015, €130 ZAG-LHR Nov 2015
- ZRH – £87 / CHF135 (Dec 14) LCY flights £69 (Nov 2014), £105 (LHR, Jul 2015)
Long haul routes from LON to North America
(price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
- AUS - WTP $229 (Nov 2015), CW £473 (Feb 2015)
- BOS - WTP $189 (Apr 2015)
- JFK – WTP £147 (Jan and Apr 2015)
- IAD – WTP $288 (Jan 2015)
- LAS – WTP £198 (Aug 2015)
- LAX - CW £540 (Feb 2015)
- ORD - CW GBP 473 (Nov 2015)
- SFO – WTP $310 (Nov 2015)
- YUL – CW £405 (Jan 2015 - Post #95)
- YYZ - CW GBP 350 (Jun 2015)
Long haul routes from LON to South America
(price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
Long haul routes from LON to Asia
(price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
- BOM –WTP £168 (Dec 2015)
- PVG – CW £440 (Jan 2015)
- HKG - WTP £207 (Jan 2015)
- NRT - WTP £207 (Apr 2015)
- BKK - WTP £229 (Aug 2016)
Long haul routes from LON to Australia and Oceania
(price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
- LHR-SYD – WTP £159 (Apr 2015)
Long haul routes from LON to Africa and Middle East
(price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
- DXB – WTP £150 (Jan 2015)
- DXB – CW £499 (Feb 2015)
- TLV - WTP £153 (Apr 2015)
Long haul routes to LON
(price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
- BOS - WTP $189 (Apr 2015), F $850 then $763 (Nov 2015)
- DME - WTP £145 (Nov 2015)
- DXB – CW £499 (Jan 2015)
- DXB – CW £299 (Nov 2015)
- GIG – F £447 (Jan 2015)
- HKG – WTP £161 (Jan 2015)
- HKG - CW £540 (Mar 2015)
- HKG - CW £599 (Mar 2015 for travel in April)
- IAD - WTP £185 (Apr 2015)
- JFK – WTP £168 (Jan 2015)
- JFK – F £508 (Dec 2015)
- MCO - WTP £170 (Sep 2015)
- MIA - WTP £176 (Nov 2015)
- ORD - CW GBP 473 (Nov 2015) increased to GBP 525 in 4 hours.
- PEK - CW GBP 549 (Aug 2015)
- SFO – WTP $310 (Nov 2015)
- SIN – CW £549 (Mar 2015)
- SIN – WTP £198 (Jun 2015)
- SYD – CW £500 (Jan 2015)
- YYZ - CW GBP 450 (Jun 2015)
- YYZ – CW C$723 (Nov 2015)
- YYZ - WTP GBP 189 (Jun 2015)
POUG terms and conditions can be found by clicking here.
Pro-active Online Upgrade (POUG) tracking and discussion | 2015 thread
Jan 22, 2015, 5:17 am
#136
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Jan 22, 2015, 5:30 am
#137
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Jan 22, 2015, 9:18 am
#139
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Jan 23, 2015, 7:18 am
#140
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Just checked my DUB - LHR in March priced at €95 and with the EUR/GBP quite favourable it turns out to be about 72gbp
Jan 23, 2015, 7:35 am
#141
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It depends on the route and sales patterns. It is possible to get a POUG a long way out, but on some routes you need the "degree day" system to flex your way. In other words if 2 months out the service looks to be filling up due to current bookings POUGs may not be offered, but this may then ease off such that at 1 month out, POUGs get offered even though actually more seats have been sold in that interim. Sometimes you can see the sensitivity, a POUG yo-yos in and out on an almost daily basis due to sales staying in line with prediction but right on the edge of availability.
May'15 is £105, Jun, Jul, Aug & Sept are £120!
Jan 23, 2015, 9:24 am
#142
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LHR-DUB mid afternoon March 4 2015 £80
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Jan 24, 2015, 12:32 pm
#145
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The currency depends on the country of booking/departure (unless changed). If you booked a DUB-LHR flight one-way, the system will assume you are in Ireland and charge you in Euros (as with ex-EU bookings).
If the DUB-LHR is part of a LHR-DUB-LHR ticket or similar, the currency will be GBP.
If the DUB-LHR is part of a LHR-DUB-LHR ticket or similar, the currency will be GBP.
Jan 25, 2015, 4:34 am
#146
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I just have £175 on LHR-LIN and £180 on MXP-LHR in June.
LOL, no.
LOL, no.
Jan 26, 2015, 10:02 am
#147
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LHR - ORD 420 GBP WTP to J MMB January 23 for January 25 flight. ^
Jan 26, 2015, 10:32 am
#148
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Got POUG offer to upgrade LHR-PVG in Feb from WTP to CW for £440. Won't take it up as I can UUA for about half the price and I don't need the extra TP.
The flight is just before Chinese New Year so the plane is pretty empty, especially in the premium cabins, with at least 8 award seats available in CW!
The flight is just before Chinese New Year so the plane is pretty empty, especially in the premium cabins, with at least 8 award seats available in CW!
Jan 26, 2015, 12:57 pm
#149
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Just a quickie: I purchased a POUG on the return leg of DEN-LHR. Does that mean that I will not receive a possible POUG for the outbound journey because the ticket is now 'unchangeable'?
Would I be able to phone the Silver line and maybe get some joy on a good upgrade from WTP to CW? My flight leaves on Jan 28th.
Looking forward to hearing any good info! Thanks!
Would I be able to phone the Silver line and maybe get some joy on a good upgrade from WTP to CW? My flight leaves on Jan 28th.
Looking forward to hearing any good info! Thanks!
Jan 26, 2015, 1:14 pm
#150
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Pro-active Online Upgrade (POUG) tracking and discussion | 2015 thread
POUGing one leg of the booking on a simple return doesn't usually affect your chances of it being offered on the other leg.
Phoning up won't get you a special deal. They're called Proactive Online UpGrades for a reason!
If there is a POUG available, it will show in MMB at any time from now until (and sometimes during) online check in. It may not appear at all depending on how full the cabin is (and a number of other metrics which nobody has been able to exactly decode).
Best just to wait and keep checking.
Phoning up won't get you a special deal. They're called Proactive Online UpGrades for a reason!
If there is a POUG available, it will show in MMB at any time from now until (and sometimes during) online check in. It may not appear at all depending on how full the cabin is (and a number of other metrics which nobody has been able to exactly decode). Best just to wait and keep checking.