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2015 POUG rate tracker
Please add your own successful results to the follow list including the month/year when the POUG was offered to you.
POUGs are offered via BA.com and the App Manage My Booking via a distinctive banner. You cannot get a POUG by telephoning, however the service centres can complete a POUG which falls over mid transaction. They are offered on cash and Avios redemptions but typically not on complex routings, BA Holidays or travel agency bookings until OLCI stage. POUGs on Avios redemptions won't get you additional TPs/Avios, but they will on revenue tickets.

Short haul routes from LON to/from Europe
A price in pounds indicates a ticket issued from London, other currencies indicate prices for tickets issued overseas (e.g. singles or returns originating from CDG priced in Euros). Multiple prices indicate a range of fares are on offer. Note that LCY prices currently seem to be on a different basis to LGW and LHR (cheaper, in other words).
  • ACE – £119 (May 2015)
  • AGP – £99/€119 (Dec 2014) £179 (July 2015)
  • AMS - £109 (LHR Dec 2015 - both ways for Jan 2016), £69 for LCY (Jan 2015), €89 to LGW both ways (Jul 2015) £79 from LGW (May 2015), €90 to LHR (May 2015)
  • AMS - £79 (Jan 2015) ex LGW - return also offered
  • ANE - €79 (Mar 2015) to LCY
  • ARN - £105 / LHR-ARN B767 (Mar 2015) £72 LHR-ARN (May 2015)
  • ATH - £109 (Oct 2014) / £179 (Jan 15), £160 (Apr 2015), €280 to LHR (May 2015)
  • BCN – €139 (Jan 2015) £89 (Feb 2015 LHR-BCN) £115 (Apr 2015 BCN-LHR), £89 (Apr 2015 LGW)
  • BGO - £75 and £65 (Jan 2015 and Apr 2015)
  • BOD - £104 from HBO (Feb 2015)
  • BRI - £119 / €144 (Dec 2014)
  • BRU - £105 (Feb 2015) /£120 (March 2015) /€135 (Jan 2015) / £115 (Jun 2015)
  • BSL - CHF120 (Dec 2014) / CHF190 (Sep 2015)
  • BUD - £89 also £105 (Dec 2014) and £120 (Jan 2015)
  • CDG - €115 (Dec 2014), £75 (Mar 2015) £99 (April 2015), £80 (Jul 2015). £89 (Dec 2015)
  • CMF - £69 (Dec 2014) Note LCY.
  • CPH - £129 (Nov 2014) £125 (Jan 2015) 950 DKK (£95 - Jul 2015), £159 (Apr 2015), £120 (May 2015)
  • CTA - £119/€144 (Dec 2014 and June 2015)
  • DBV - £89 LGW (Nov 2015)
  • DUB – €119 (to LHR, Dec 2015), £80 and £95 LHR (Jan & Mar 2015) £99 (Nov 2014); £95 LCY (Jan 2015), £80 LCY (Mar 2015), £105 (Apr 2015), €105 (to LHR, June 2015), £115 (LHR, Jun/Jul 2015)
  • DUS - €125 (Jan 2015) €79 to LCY (Apr 2015) £69 to LCY (May 2015)
  • FCO - £170 (Dec 2014) / €155 LHR & €109 LGW (Mar 2015), £155 (Apr 2015)
  • FRA - €145 (to LHR, Dec 2015), £105 (Jan 2015) £109 (Nov 2015)
  • GIB - £140 Dec 2014)
  • GOT – £90 (Jan 2015) £79 (Nov 2014), SEK 990/GBP 76 (Oct 2015)
  • GVA - £79/£89 (Nov 2014) £105 (Jan 2015) £120 (May 2015 from HBO) £105 both ways (05/15)
  • HAM - £90 both ways (Jan 2015) £79 both ways (Sep 15 from HBO)
  • HEL – €155 back (Dec 2014) £130 (July 2015, HEL-LHR)
  • INN – £89/€109 back (Dec 2014)
  • IST - £130 both ways (May 2015) £150 (May 2015, IST-LHR)
  • JER - £99 (Jan 2015), £79 (Mar 2015), £79 (Oct 2015), £79 (Nove 2015)
  • LCA – £210 (Feb2015)
  • LED - £189 (Oct 2015)
  • LIN – £175 (Jan 2015), £189 (Nov 2015)
  • LIS – £80/£119/£145 (Nov 2014 / Dec 2014), £145 (Jul 2015 & Jan 2016)
  • LPA - €125 back to LHR (May 2015)
  • LUX - £120 offered to LHR (Feb 2015)
  • MAD - £110 to LHR (Mar 2015 from HBO), £75 exLHR (June 2015), €89 MAD-LCY-MAD for Oct 2015
  • MAH - £69 (Apr 2015). Note LCY.
  • MLA - €154 (Jan 2015), €119 (Oct 2015)
  • MUC - £105 (May 2015), £109 (Sep 2015 from HBO)
  • MXP - £180 (Jan 2015)
  • NCE - £140 (Dec 2014), £114 ex-LGW £145 to LHR (Apr 2015 from HBO)
  • ORY - £99 (Jan 2015), £69 (Mar 2015) £90 April 2015
  • OSL - NOK1200 = £100 (Feb 2015), £120 (May 2015), £91 (Aug 2015), £159 (Jan & Mar 2016 )
  • OTP - £185 (Jan 2015)
  • PFO - £119 (Sep 2015)
  • PMI - £69 (Mar 2015), €79 (Mar 2015). Note LCY. PMI-LHR €175 (Mar 2015) / EUR 180 (Apr 2015) / EUR 205 (Oct 2015)
  • PRG - £79/£120 (Dec 2014/Jan 2015), £149 (Dec 2015)
  • PSA - £165 (Feb 2015), £89 (Oct 2015)
  • RTM - £65 (Jan 2015, ex LHR)
  • SVG - NOK 720 (Dec 2015), NOK 720 (Aug 2015), £99 each way (Dec 2015)
  • SZG - £114 (Dec 2014)
  • TIA – £99/€119 (Dec 2014) €159 (Mar 2015)
  • TXL – £115 (Dec 2015) / €150 (Jan 2015) / £120 (Feb/Mar 2015) / €125 (Apr 2015) / £119 July 2015
  • UIP - £69 (Mar 2015). Note LCY.
  • VCE - £145 (Jan 2015)
  • VIE – £149 (Aug '15) £135 (July '15) £145 (Jan '15) £99 and £129 (Nov 14)
  • VRN - £89 / €109 (Dec 2014)
  • WAW - £139 for LHR-WAW-LHR Oct 2015, 475 PLN (£79) for WAW-LHR (Jan 2016)
  • ZAG - £89 for ZAG-LHR Aug 2015, €130 ZAG-LHR Nov 2015
  • ZRH – £87 / CHF135 (Dec 14) LCY flights £69 (Nov 2014), £105 (LHR, Jul 2015)


Long haul routes from LON to North America
(price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
  • AUS - WTP $229 (Nov 2015), CW £473 (Feb 2015)
  • BOS - WTP $189 (Apr 2015)
  • JFK – WTP £147 (Jan and Apr 2015)
  • IAD – WTP $288 (Jan 2015)
  • LAS – WTP £198 (Aug 2015)
  • LAX - CW £540 (Feb 2015)
  • ORD - CW GBP 473 (Nov 2015)
  • SFO – WTP $310 (Nov 2015)
  • YUL – CW £405 (Jan 2015 - Post #95)
  • YYZ - CW GBP 350 (Jun 2015)

Long haul routes from LON to South America

(price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):


Long haul routes from LON to Asia
(price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
  • BOM –WTP £168 (Dec 2015)
  • PVG – CW £440 (Jan 2015)
  • HKG - WTP £207 (Jan 2015)
  • NRT - WTP £207 (Apr 2015)
  • BKK - WTP £229 (Aug 2016)


Long haul routes from LON to Australia and Oceania
(price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
  • LHR-SYD – WTP £159 (Apr 2015)

Long haul routes from LON to Africa and Middle East
(price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
  • DXB – WTP £150 (Jan 2015)
  • DXB – CW £499 (Feb 2015)
  • TLV - WTP £153 (Apr 2015)


Long haul routes to LON
(price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
  • BOS - WTP $189 (Apr 2015), F $850 then $763 (Nov 2015)
  • DME - WTP £145 (Nov 2015)
  • DXB – CW £499 (Jan 2015)
  • DXB – CW £299 (Nov 2015)
  • GIG – F £447 (Jan 2015)
  • HKG – WTP £161 (Jan 2015)
  • HKG - CW £540 (Mar 2015)
  • HKG - CW £599 (Mar 2015 for travel in April)
  • IAD - WTP £185 (Apr 2015)
  • JFK – WTP £168 (Jan 2015)
  • JFK – F £508 (Dec 2015)
  • MCO - WTP £170 (Sep 2015)
  • MIA - WTP £176 (Nov 2015)
  • ORD - CW GBP 473 (Nov 2015) increased to GBP 525 in 4 hours.
  • PEK - CW GBP 549 (Aug 2015)
  • SFO – WTP $310 (Nov 2015)
  • SIN – CW £549 (Mar 2015)
  • SIN – WTP £198 (Jun 2015)
  • SYD – CW £500 (Jan 2015)
  • YYZ - CW GBP 450 (Jun 2015)
  • YYZ – CW C$723 (Nov 2015)
  • YYZ - WTP GBP 189 (Jun 2015)

POUG terms and conditions can be found by clicking here.
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Old Jan 3, 15, 5:31 am
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Arrow Pro-active Online Upgrade (POUG) tracking and discussion | 2015 thread



This thread is a continuation of the very popular http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/briti...ns-thread.html.

What is a Pro-active Online Upgrade?
The simple answer: it is a limited special upgrade that may be offered at a time of BA's choosing after your booking is ticketed up to and including online check-in. The offer, if it happens (and this is not guaranteed) will appear in Manage My Booking, either via BA.com or the mobile app. There is no email notification, klaxon sound or flashing beacons to alert you - so now you know why its called a Pro-active Online Upgrade

Please note, POUG rates differ from the rates offered at the airport (see, http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/briti...ng-thread.html) and also the rate offered when you click on the “Upgrade my class of travel with money” link from within MMB, or the “Upgrade to the next available cabin” blue/grey banner in the app.

In summary
  • All POUGs earn full TPs and Avios for the upgraded cabin, subject to the original booking being paid for with cash.
  • POUGs are not usually offered on bookings with connections, such as bookings that combine UK domestic and international flights
  • POUGs are offered on Hand-Baggage Only fares, if available
  • POUGs only become available after 48 hours of making your booking, until any time up to, and including OLCI. After being checked in you will not be offered a POUG.
  • POUGs do not seem to become available for travel agent bookings, until 2-3 days before departure (YMMV)
  • POUGs cannot be requested from Service Centres, except that occasionally BA.com will not proceed with a POUG online and display a message inviting you to call the Service Centre to complete the transaction.
  • After a POUG has been purchased, the ticket become non changeable and non refundable, apart from government taxes.

A Wikipost has been set up to allow us to collectively track POUG rates on a route by route basis. Please add your own successful results to the list including the month/year when the POUG was offered to you.

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Historical data

The rates below were transferred over from the previous thread's Wikipost

Short haul routes from LON to Europe
  • ACE - £105
  • AGP – £79 (£99/€119 Dec 2014)
  • AMS - £69 / £56 (£99 from HBO in Nov 2014)
  • ATH - £99 (£109 from HBO in Oct 2014)
  • ARN – £72
  • BCN – £79 (£89 for Silver/Bronze and £114 for HBO Blue Dec 2014 - same fight, two bookings)
  • BGO – £64 (£79 for HBO in SEP2014)
  • BRI - £119 / €144 (Dec 2014)
  • BRU - £69
  • BSL - CHF 85 for BSL-LHR (£55 at then exchange rate) (CHF120 in Dec 2014)
  • BUD - £79 (£89 and £105 Dec 2014)
  • CDG - £69 (£75 Dec 2014; CDG-LHR €115 Dec 2014)
  • CMF - £69 (Dec 2014)
  • CPH - £79 (£129 from HBO Nov 2014)
  • CTA - £119/€144 (both Dec 2014)
  • DBV – £79
  • DUB – £69/£56 (£99 from HBO Nov 2014, £80 Dec 2014)
  • DUS – £69
  • FCO - £170 (Dec 14)
  • FRA – £69
  • GIB - £72 (£140 Dec 14)
  • GOT – £79
  • GVA - £79/£89
  • HAJ – £69
  • HAM – £69
  • HEL – £89
  • INN – £89 out / €109 back (Dec 14)
  • IST – £89
  • JER – £69
  • KBP - £80 / USD 129 (BA is not currently accepting Ukrainian currency)
  • LCA – £89 (£190 Dec 2014 from LCA; separately £134 to LCA Dec 2014)
  • LIN – £79
  • LIS – £79 (£119 offered Nov 14, £99 and £145 Dec 14)
  • LUX - £69
  • MAD - £79
  • MAH - £69
  • MUC - £79
  • MXP - £119 (€89 MXP - LHR)
  • NCE - £140 (each way, 21/DEC/14)
  • ORY - £69
  • OSL - £79 (£64/640 NOK reported)
  • OTP - £79/€89
  • PMI - £69 (Dec 2014)
  • PRG – £79
  • PSA - £79
  • SZG - £114 (Nov 2015)
  • SOF - £89
  • STR – £69
  • TIA – £89 (£99 offered Dec 14 for TIA-LGW) (€119 TIA-LGW Dec 2014)
  • TRN – £79
  • TXL – £69
  • VCE – £79
  • VIE – £79 [£129 as of Nov14! GBP99 LHR-VIE + GBP99 VIE-LHR Nov14]
  • VRN- €139 (~£110) Nov 2014 - £89 / €109 Dec 2014
  • WAW – £69 (£110 Dec 14)
  • ZAG – £79
  • ZRH – £79 (£87 (CHF135) for ZRH-LHR): LCY-ZRH + v.v. £69 (offered 11/14)


Long haul routes from LON to North America
(price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
  • ATL - WTP £189
  • BOS – WTP £189 (mid-2014) £219 (December 2014)
  • IAD - WTP £157
  • JFK/EWR – WTP £189 (can be as low as £133) / CW £443 / F £527 (F £599 02/08)
  • LAS - WTP £180
  • LAX – WTP £229 / CW £599
  • MEX – F £447/£525
  • MIA – WTP £209 / CW £525
  • ORD – WTP £171 / CW £525 / F £499
  • PHL – WTP £189
  • SAN – CW £599
  • SEA – WTP £199
  • SFO – WTP £170
  • YYZ – WTP £171 (return leg) / CW £425 / F £499
  • YYC - WTP £134
  • YVR – WTP £175 / CW £350


Long haul routes from LON to South America
(price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
  • EZE – WTP £199
  • GRU – WTP £209 / F £499 / WT to CW £699
  • GIG - WT to CW £699


Long haul routes from LON to Asia
(price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
  • BKK - WTP £126-£140 / CW £549 / F £
  • BOM - WTP £ / CW £450 / F £
  • DEL - F £499, subsequently reduced to £400
  • HKG – WTP £199 (offered £172 for a Nov 2014 flight) / CW £599 / F £599
  • NRT - WTP £199 / CW £ / F £525
  • ICN - CW £499
  • SIN - WTP SGD$320


Long haul routes from LON to Australia and Oceania
(price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
  • SYD – WTP £170 / CW £399


Long haul routes from LON to Africa and Middle East
(price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
  • AUH – F £499
  • CAI - WTP £121
  • DXB – WTP £179 / F £499
  • EBB - WTP £142
  • JNB - WTP £209
  • NBO - WTP £189


Long and short-haul routes to LON
(price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
  • SYD-SIN – F £465
  • AMS-LGW - CE €79
  • BCN-LHR - CE £64
  • BRU-LHR - CE £105 (12.2014)
  • CDG-LHR - CE €79
  • DUB-LHR - CE €109 (£85.70-ish) from HBO booked 05.12.14, offered 08.12.14
  • BOM-LHR - F cINR40,000 (c£395)
  • JNB-LHR WTP - £189
  • TLV-LHR - F $600 (c£370)

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LGW - IBZ in July, ET to CE, £119 out.
(I did have an offer for £145 IBZ - LHR but that's now disappeared. Oops)
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Originally Posted by brentford77
I am a fairly regular user of these from Euro Traveller to CE. I often do Helsinki which is normally Euro 99. Today I was offered €155 for HEL-LHR in a weeks time. I have had several recent offers that were much higher than I previously received. Beginning to wonder if they are running some program to see how far they can push users like me. Not griping if they are: it's a commercial business after all. Does it halp does anyone think if bookings are made without the Exec # added in initially or are they just raising the prices all round? The prices I get now are typically above my inflection point and frankly, if it gets to the point where I struggle to maintain my BA status, I'd probably start doing a lot more Norwegian, Easyjet, etc.
I checked upgrade price on shorthaul recently and noticed that option of upgrade is showing as upgrade £70 and £60 fee for ticket change, total £130. When previously it was just upgrade, let say £50-60. That's how I bought tickets for my husband, buying ET one and then upgrading for around £50 on LHR-WAW/WAW-LHR route.
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I have taken the liberty of putting recent POUG fares into the Wiki, anything from mid October onwards. Most of them were offered to me, some in the last few days and those I have not taken up are still showing the above prices.

I've also split the original structure: at least within Europe it doesn't matter which direction the POUG is, but it does matter which currency the ticket was offered in. Often fares from Europe (either single or return) are cheaper than UK issued fares. But a UK issued LHR-CDG, priced in Sterling, will cost the same in either direction, whereas a Euro denominated fare will generally be a bit cheaper, again in either direction. BAEC and HBO status are not relevant to the price.
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Pro-active Online Upgrade (POUG) tracking and discussion | 2015 thread

The wiki post is all well and good, but it has been established in the latter half of 2014 that BA jerked up the short haul POUG prices from LHR and LGW considerably.

Edit - CWS beat me to it!
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Originally Posted by paul4040 View Post
but it has been established in the latter half of 2014 that BA jerked up the short haul POUG prices from LHR and LGW considerably.
Indeed, and I've deliberately included the jacked up prices in the Wiki. LCY is not yet affected.
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£69.00 AMS (from LCY) offered yesterday for a flight in August. Just deciding whether to go for it or not.
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£90 CE LHR-GOT for a flight in 3 weeks. No thank you!
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We have two tickets for the same flight but separate bookings, LHR - DUB, I got upgrade offer for £80, my husband £95 (his ticket is HBO). Flight in March 2015.

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Well, just for the wiki post (I cannot edit it so far as I can see)

OTP (coming up in April) still offered at £185. Seems stable for that route for now.
VCE (coming up in May) at £135 (also seems fairly stable at that price for me).

Both, of course ET->CE
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Offering me £145 for LHR-VIE in Feb 2015 (from hbo).
I think I'll stick with my exit row.
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Pro-active Online Upgrade (POUG) tracking and discussion | 2015 thread

Yes, yes, but when are we going to see POUGs on trips originating at regional airports?

Ok it's been mentioned to death but honestly...
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I'm still being offered £95 e/w for LCY-DUB and still not worth it considering you can pay just under £200 in business compared to say £80 for ET + £180 to CE = £260.

JER-LGW holding steady at £99 (paid £17 in the first place for the ET fare).
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This year's Wiki updated to this point of time, thanks for the updates.
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