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jbfield Nov 8, 2011 2:58 pm

The 774 Sometimes shows up on HND-FUK route too.

If you really want it to feel like a big aeroplane, try routing
14:00 HND-FUK 15:55
16:45 FUK-FUJ 17:30

You get to jump from a B747 onto a DHC-8-201. :D Maybe better doing the route the other way around.

DClass4Me Nov 9, 2011 11:14 am


Originally Posted by DClass4Me (Post 17411209)
Possibly naive q but what do you think my chances are of a O/W:

LHR - SIN - BNE - overland - CNS - AKL as a Zone 1 - Zone 9?

I understand no backtracking but there appears to be no *A method of getting to CNS from Asia anymore. Or will they make me do CNS - AKL as a Z9 - Z9?

anyone? Prefer to go into the ICC conversation armed as it were?

Legintereg Nov 10, 2011 2:54 pm

Hi all. I suspect that I am pushing my luck but I want to go LHR to SYD in February via Chiang Rai (CEI) in Thailand. The routing with Thai Airways LHR>CEI>SYD is available (LHR>CEI and CEI>SYD are via BKK). It is all generally in the same direction but can you have a stopover on anything other than the direct route, ie LHR>BKK>SYD? I know that I am only allowed one stopover on the journey, which would be the three days I intend spending in CEI, but if I arrive back into BKK after the last flight has left for SYD that day am I right in thinking that I can spend the night at BKK and then catch the first flight the next day? All help appreciated.

raikje Nov 10, 2011 3:17 pm


Originally Posted by Legintereg (Post 17427966)
Hi all. I suspect that I am pushing my luck but I want to go LHR to SYD in February via Chiang Rai (CEI) in Thailand.

Your problem here is that you need to pass through BKK twice. No backtracking is allowed, so you won't get away with that. Your best bet might be to book LHR-BKK (stop)-SYD, and pay for a cash return BKK-CEI (on random dates in February, £115 with TG, £65 return with Thai AirAsia)

YorkieFlyer Nov 10, 2011 4:47 pm


Originally Posted by DClass4Me (Post 17420130)
anyone? Prefer to go into the ICC conversation armed as it were?

It doesn't seem unreasonable, but I don't think its categorically yes or no, tho they may want to route you via BNE to AKL, Try HUACA a few times and if all else fails buy a one way flight BNE-CNS rather than an extra redemption CNS to AKL

Legintereg Nov 10, 2011 5:55 pm

Thanks riakje for your rapid reply and help. I wasn't certain whether it was considered back-tracking if that was the only way that they could route you. It seems a bit unfair to call it back-tracking if you have no option but to go that way. Thanks again for you advice.

raikje Nov 10, 2011 6:50 pm


Originally Posted by Legintereg (Post 17428909)
Thanks riakje for your rapid reply and help. I wasn't certain whether it was considered back-tracking if that was the only way that they could route you. It seems a bit unfair to call it back-tracking if you have no option but to go that way. Thanks again for you advice.

No problem. It may be the only route, but the stopover is really meant to be a bonus for somewhere you are travelling through anyway. There is a bit of flexibility for creative routings, but as ultimately you're buying a journey from LHR to SYD, sticking on a spur to CEI doesn't actually get you any closer to your final destination!

jexelot Nov 13, 2011 4:24 am

Is this routing valid?
SIN-SGN (stopover)-BKK one way?

ZKOKA Nov 13, 2011 6:13 am

How about this, as it is a bit of a detour in contrast to the second version below (Z2-Z8 via Z7):

CPH-ZRH-BKK (stopover) BKK-NRT-KIX (9420 mi)

and that (Z2-Z8):

CPH-ZRH-HKG (23h stop) HKG-KIX (stopover) ITM-FUK-HND or ITM-HND-HIJ (8750 mi)

Thanks!

21H21J Nov 13, 2011 7:02 am

I know I was pushing my luck, but has anyone had success in with a Zone 3 to Zone 1 redemption - US west coast to UK via Mexico?

Initially they seemed okay with SFO-SJD-IAH-FRA-MAN as Z3 to Z1, but as there was no availability for SJD-IAH I had to route SJD-LAX-IAH which made it Z3 to Z3 to Z1.

Just wondering if it is worth calling back for a different agent.

soy Nov 13, 2011 8:22 am


Originally Posted by ZKOKA (Post 17441001)
How about this, as it is a bit of a detour in contrast to the second version below (Z2-Z8 via Z7):

CPH-ZRH-BKK (stopover) BKK-NRT-KIX (9420 mi)

and that (Z2-Z8):

CPH-ZRH-HKG (23h stop) HKG-KIX (stopover) ITM-FUK-HND or ITM-HND-HIJ (8750 mi)

Thanks!

I think you are pushing it. It is already a great deal to be able to get CPH-BKK-Z8 for Z2-Z8 miles.
maybe doing BKK-NRT direct instead of BKK-NRT-KIX would make it more likely

I am at a loss as to why on earth would anyone want to fly ITM-FUK-HND or ITM-HND-HIJ. It will be Y travel so its not as if you will have great luxury. It seems to be flying for the sake of flying. Not something I would want to do at the end of a long haul multi-stop trip from Europe.

ZKOKA Nov 13, 2011 9:26 am


Originally Posted by soy (Post 17441391)
maybe doing BKK-NRT direct instead of BKK-NRT-KIX would make it more likely

The only problem with doing BKK-KIX direct would be that there is no F available, hence the detour via NRT.

I might just book the domestic flights in Japan seperately with UA miles (6k o-w) and minimize the number of segments on the BD booking, given that I am already maximizing the miles flown ;) Glad to know that a stopover in Z7 is still allowed within a Z2-Z8 redemption.

YorkieFlyer Nov 13, 2011 2:31 pm


Originally Posted by 21H21J (Post 17441154)
I know I was pushing my luck, but has anyone had success in with a Zone 3 to Zone 1 redemption - US west coast to UK via Mexico?

Initially they seemed okay with SFO-SJD-IAH-FRA-MAN as Z3 to Z1, but as there was no availability for SJD-IAH I had to route SJD-LAX-IAH which made it Z3 to Z3 to Z1.

Just wondering if it is worth calling back for a different agent.

Trouble is you're not heading in the general direction of travel going back to LAX and it amounts to backtracking, maybe try a different date. Have you checked on the star website for alernative routes from SJD to US east coast

flytofly Nov 13, 2011 3:58 pm

No doubt about it. If one agent insist on return trip, then try another agent.
You must have no troule booking it as one way.


Originally Posted by jexelot (Post 17440757)
Is this routing valid?
SIN-SGN (stopover)-BKK one way?


Doug_1970 Nov 14, 2011 9:17 am

Can anyone tell me what's the best way to book:

AKL - BKK - HKG - ICN in business ?

I've just called ICC twice and been told that because only one stopover is allowed, I either need to book AKL - BKK - HKG as one booking then HKG - ICN as another, or AKL - BKK as one booking then BKK - HKG - ICN as another. I asked them if they could just charge me extra for the extra stopover and they said no.


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