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ckone501 Oct 5, 2011 4:27 pm


Originally Posted by jms_uk (Post 17226436)
Up to 24 hours, I believe.


How long do you want to stay? It's your end destination.

Sure? Heard about more possible days...

echino Oct 5, 2011 4:31 pm


Originally Posted by ckone501 (Post 17226435)
Try staralliance.com and you will see that this route is not valid.

It shows you the routing via YVR as you are searching on AC website...

staralliance.com does not show all valid routes. AC is a Star Alliance member, and if they sell this route, then it is valid. For example, I booked the following award in business, which is a perfectly valid route:

YVR-YYZ-VIE-DME-ZRH-FCO-SIN-ICN-LAX-YVR

I doubt that staralliance.com will show anything like that if you search for YVR-SIN.

ozon78 Oct 5, 2011 4:48 pm


Originally Posted by jbfield (Post 17224347)
Presumable because there are other, more direct routes that could be taken, e.g. the direct EZE-FRA flights, or conection via GRU?

yes, I understand it is not the most direct one however getting from SCL to FRA involves a connection to EZE-FRA in EZE. According to the StarAlliance website, EZE-FRA via JNB is valid, so how come that SCL-EZE-FRA via JNB becomes invalid?
I do not think I'll get a response from DiamondClub here: i should may be try 'Facebook' which seems to generate some useful responses on occasion...

RedChili Oct 5, 2011 11:06 pm

I would genuinely be interested in making a redemption ARN-MUC-ICN-KHV/stopover/-ICN-HKG, and I would be willing to pay Z2-Z8 mileage for it. Do you guys think this would fly?

RAPC Oct 6, 2011 1:48 am


Originally Posted by RedChili (Post 17228057)
I would genuinely be interested in making a redemption ARN-MUC-ICN-KHV/stopover/-ICN-HKG, and I would be willing to pay Z2-Z8 mileage for it. Do you guys think this would fly?

Probably not as you are routing it Z2-Z8-Z2-Z8 and also backtracking through ICN. Only way to be 100% sure is calling in though.

raikje Oct 6, 2011 6:34 am


Originally Posted by RedChili (Post 17228057)
I would genuinely be interested in making a redemption ARN-MUC-ICN-KHV/stopover/-ICN-HKG, and I would be willing to pay Z2-Z8 mileage for it. Do you guys think this would fly?

I suspect no, because you can't stopover in "Europe". You could do z2-z2 (ARN-KHV) + z2-z8 (KHV-HKG), but that's a bit more expensive. Also, ARN-MUC-ICN-KHV would probably sting you for 2 connection charges as well.

Regarding the other recent posts, I don't believe that "Aeroplan will sell it to me" automatically means "all other *A partners should sell it to me" - award rules are programme specific. I expect Aeroplan will also sell you a stopover on an intra-European flight...

And as long as far-eastern Russia is in z2, it will be treated the same as anywhere else in Europe for stopovers. I view it like this - the rule says "no stopovers in Europe". If, by chance, the only routing involves taking you outside Europe, they don't try and charge the extra miles for eg a z8 flight to ICN. However, that generosity doesn't extend as far as assuming ICN is in Europe for calculating the price and simultaneously outside Europe for the stopover rule.

Here's a theoretical question though - CAI-ICN-KHV. That's z5-z2, does that allow an ICN stop?

ScottieFlyer Oct 7, 2011 1:23 am

Hi Folks, is LHR-BKKstopover-PEK a valid route?

RedChili Oct 7, 2011 2:41 am


Originally Posted by raikje (Post 17228927)
I suspect no, because you can't stopover in "Europe". You could do z2-z2 (ARN-KHV) + z2-z8 (KHV-HKG), but that's a bit more expensive. Also, ARN-MUC-ICN-KHV would probably sting you for 2 connection charges as well.

Thanks for the answers, RAPC and raikje. The above suggestion is probably what I will have to do if I want to book the trip.

The problem with living in a Z2 country like Sweden is that Z2-Z2 is 20,000 miles (not 12,000 as in Z1-Z2), plus I will need a double connection to get to KHV. The total full r/t economy mileage will be 35,000 (instead of 19,500 for those lucky FlyerTalkers living near FRA, MUC or LHR).

At cash+miles in C, r/t ARN-ICN-HKG-FRA-ARN will be 37,500, but adding ICN-KHV-ICN will be 13,500 extra. I'm not sure if it's worth it.

writermatt Oct 17, 2011 1:38 am

Redemptions out of ISB
 
Couple of questions - and I'm new here, so many apologies if they're in the wrong place, or if they're stupid, or both...

Looking at DC reward flights out of ISB (zone 10). Thinking of either CMB (zone 7) or MLE (also zone 10). CMB would seem to be a straightforward flight with TG, ISB-BKK-CMB at 30,000 miles. The only route I can see to get to MLE would be ISB-BKK with TG and then BKK-SIN-MLE on SQ. So...

1. Am I right in these assumptions?
2. Any idea what taxes might cost, roughly?
3. Any idea what availability is usually like out of ISB? It's a little off the beaten track...

Thanks for any advice!

Matt

JetTiger Oct 18, 2011 7:02 pm

LAX - NYC - LHR - BOS - NYC : Book FF Flight
 
Hello,

I am flying from Australia to the USA. At the moment I have a pretty cheap airfare to Boston via LAX. It is $300 cheaper just to fly to LAX from Melbourne so it sort of works out.

I was thinking of booking a Mileage Ticket:

LAX - JFK (1 week stopover) - LHR (destination)

LHR - BOS (2 day stopover maybe) - LAX

It would be 25,000 miles + $200AUD + Tax.

Am I allowed to stopover in the US on the way to London? One used to be able to do this.

Paul

Oxon Flyer Oct 19, 2011 12:59 am


Originally Posted by JetTiger (Post 17296900)
Am I allowed to stopover in the US on the way to London? One used to be able to do this.

One is still able to do this. :)

YorkieFlyer Oct 19, 2011 6:04 am


Originally Posted by writermatt (Post 17286117)
Couple of questions - and I'm new here, so many apologies if they're in the wrong place, or if they're stupid, or both...

Looking at DC reward flights out of ISB (zone 10). Thinking of either CMB (zone 7) or MLE (also zone 10). CMB would seem to be a straightforward flight with TG, ISB-BKK-CMB at 30,000 miles. The only route I can see to get to MLE would be ISB-BKK with TG and then BKK-SIN-MLE on SQ. So...

1. Am I right in these assumptions?
2. Any idea what taxes might cost, roughly?
3. Any idea what availability is usually like out of ISB? It's a little off the beaten track...

Thanks for any advice!

Matt

Hi Matt, yes ISB-BKK-CMB should be ok as the only practical route, with a stopover in BKK if you want. SQ is the only * carrier to MLE and reward seats are difficult to bag on the route, tho when I've checked before and seen only 1 J seat on ANA the ICC has seen 2 so I'd check ANA for availability and if you see a seat pick up the phone:eek:
Another thought is... There are cheap flights with EK and UM between CMB and MLE so a different route or twin centre is possible.

sguy Oct 19, 2011 10:17 am

Can you still get a stopover in the East Asian countries on the way from the US to Singapore?

writermatt Oct 19, 2011 9:38 pm

Many thanks indeed, YorkieFlyer!

kamchatsky Oct 20, 2011 12:27 am

Just to provide more statistics on redemption here:

- SYD-AKL-LAX-HNL/KOA is valid route
- SYD-RAR-LAX-HNL/KOA is NOT valid route

Ironically the second route is actually shorter than the first one, but BD allows the first but not second route. SYD-RAR, and RAR-LAX are serviced by NZ.

- HNL-SFO(stopover)-ICN is valid route
- HNL-SFO(stopover)-ICN-HKG is not valid route
- HNL-SFO(stopover)-HKG is valid route

The problem is that there is only 2 flights of SFO-HKG per day but 3 SFO-ICN per day. I really wanted to go to HKG but unfortunately SFO-HKG is not available on the day of travel, as well as my lack of miles I can only do the first route.

But I did score SQ SFO-ICN J on 77W which is great!


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