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Old Jan 15, 2014, 11:06 am
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These Centurion Lounges are open. Each has a dedicated discussion thread:

CLT Charlotte (2020)
DEN Denver (2021)
DFW Dallas (2013, Expanded 2018)
HKG Hong Kong (2017)
IAH Houston (2016)
JFK New York, Kennedy (2020)
LAS Las Vegas (2013)
LGA New York, La Guardia (2014, reopened in new Terminal 2021)
LHR London, Heathrow (2021)
MIA Miami (2015, Expanded 2019)
PHL Philadelphia (2017)
PHX Phoenix (2020)
SFO San Francisco (2014)
SEA Seattle (2015, Expanded 2017)

This location is closed due to construction:
LAX Los Angeles (2020)

These locations are announced, but not yet open:
DCA Washington, DC
ATL Atlanta, GA





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Old Apr 9, 2021, 9:33 am
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Originally Posted by jamesteroh
I'm surprised there isn't one at Heathrow...
There is one under construction: Centurion Lounge LHR T3 (Opening delayed until 2021)

Coca Cola does not use the Diet Coke brand in France.

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Old Apr 9, 2021, 9:44 am
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Last I counted, there are about 35 UA lounges in USA. I think there are only about 13 active AmEx Centurion lounges in USA.

Not sure about the ratio of AmEx Platinum cardholders vs United Club Infinite cardholders. I think it is lopsided toward AmEx.
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Old Apr 9, 2021, 11:24 am
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Originally Posted by mia
There is one under construction: Centurion Lounge LHR T3 (Opening delayed until 2021)

Coca Cola does not use the Diet Coke brand in France.
I never use T3 out of LHR but not a big deal since the Virgin Clubhouse is one of the nicer clubs I've been in.

The AF lounge didn't have coke light or Coke Zero either. No diet soda at all last time I flew out of CDG. Surprised Airfrance doesn't have a nice lounge at CDG, or at least the one Delta passengers use.
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Old Apr 9, 2021, 1:07 pm
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Originally Posted by jamesteroh
I never use T3 out of LHR but not a big deal since the Virgin Clubhouse is one of the nicer clubs I've been in.
The Virgin Clubhouse is also in T3, but I believe that terminal is currently closed due to pandemic.
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Old Apr 9, 2021, 1:32 pm
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Originally Posted by CLT
I feel like Toronto would make sense on paper although the nature of operations there in regards to so many Terminal areas (T1 Domestic/T1 International/T1 Transborder, T3 Domestic/T3 International/T3 Transborder) would probably preclude Amex from opening a lounge at Pearson.
What about Vancouver? It has extensive links to major Asian cities.

Originally Posted by jamesteroh
I'm surprised there isn't one at Heathrow or CDG. LHR would probably be hard because Toronto you have so many terminals and there are already plenty of PP lounges and Virgin's clubhouse is great in T4. I hate the airfrance lounge at CDG for Delta flights, they didn't even have diet coke last time I was there and would love another alternative there.
AMEX is building a CL at LHR. I think it'll open later this year.

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Old Apr 9, 2021, 3:40 pm
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My wish list is Tokyo HND, since prior to ANA joining priority pass there are no non alliance clubs there and while my newly minted OWE via AS is nice, I’m not sure I’ll have elite status with As forever not will I always fly JAL
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Old Apr 9, 2021, 3:48 pm
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My wish list is Tokyo HND, since prior to ANA joining priority pass there are no non alliance clubs there and while my newly minted OWE via AS is nice, I’m not sure I’ll have elite status with As forever not will I always fly JAL
I agree. The problem with the alliance lounges is that I have the fly with them same-day in order to access them. Tokyo HND definitely need something like a Centurion Lounge.
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Old Apr 9, 2021, 6:12 pm
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Originally Posted by lsquare
What about Vancouver? It has extensive links to major Asian cities.
It still doesn't make sense. Yes there are extensive links to Asian cities but putting a CL in the international departures area of YVR isolates the lounge from US and Canadian domestic traffic.
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Old Apr 10, 2021, 5:27 am
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Originally Posted by jamesteroh
I'd love to see lounges at Baltimore and MDW since there is no PP or Skyclub options at all. Don't see MDW happening since most of the flights are Southwest though.
There is one at BWI as another poster noted. There is (was?) also one under construction at MDW but it appears to have been delayed indefinitely:

https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/sout...te-2020-a.html
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In an interesting blurb from this TPG article on the apparent upcoming Chase lounge, it seems that Amex had lodged a proposal for a Centurion Lounge in Boston at Logan but lost out.

In October 2020, Massachusetts Port Authority (Massport), the entity that owns and operates Logan, received four proposals from lounge operators. Those proposals came from American Express (Centurion Lounge), Plaza Premium Group (Capital One Lounge), TAV America Operations Services (Primeclass Lounge) and Airport Dimensions (Chase Sapphire Lounge).
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Each operator was evaluated on four criteria: capital investment; rent; a diversity, equity and inclusion (DE&I) plan; and the term of the lease.
If part of the DE&I evaluation was lounge access for the general public, American Express would be at a disadvantage because they only admit Centurion and Platinum cardholders. They skirted this issue in PHX by doing a joint proposal with Escape.
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Originally Posted by mia
If part of the DE&I evaluation was lounge access for the general public, American Express would be at a disadvantage because they only admit Centurion and Platinum cardholders. They skirted this issue in PHX by doing a joint proposal with Escape.
How does Chase get around this?

This is a weird criteria for an airport lounge because a significant factor of what makes a lounge good is the ability to exclude the general public making it a more private experience. A lounge that's open to everyone in the terminal is essentially a useless proposition.
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Old Jun 3, 2021, 9:18 am
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Originally Posted by cmd320
How does Chase get around this?
The are accepting Priority Pass and selling daypasses.
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Old Jun 3, 2021, 9:18 am
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Originally Posted by cmd320
How does Chase get around this?

This is a weird criteria for an airport lounge because a significant factor of what makes a lounge good is the ability to exclude the general public making it a more private experience. A lounge that's open to everyone in the terminal is essentially a useless proposition.
I couldn't agree more.
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Old Jun 3, 2021, 10:19 am
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Originally Posted by cmd320
How does Chase get around this?

This is a weird criteria for an airport lounge because a significant factor of what makes a lounge good is the ability to exclude the general public making it a more private experience. A lounge that's open to everyone in the terminal is essentially a useless proposition.
Originally Posted by lsquare
I couldn't agree more.
My guess is it’s more to do with the actual building of the the lounge - sourcing, procurement, etc.
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