Jan 15, 2014, 11:06 am
Last edit by: imnotalawyer
These Centurion Lounges are open. Each has a dedicated discussion thread:
CLT Charlotte (2020)
DEN Denver (2021)
DFW Dallas (2013, Expanded 2018)
HKG Hong Kong (2017)
IAH Houston (2016)
JFK New York, Kennedy (2020)
LAS Las Vegas (2013)
LGA New York, La Guardia (2014, reopened in new Terminal 2021)
LHR London, Heathrow (2021)
MIA Miami (2015, Expanded 2019)
PHL Philadelphia (2017)
PHX Phoenix (2020)
SFO San Francisco (2014)
SEA Seattle (2015, Expanded 2017)
This location is closed due to construction:
LAX Los Angeles (2020)
These locations are announced, but not yet open:
DCA Washington, DC
ATL Atlanta, GA
CLT Charlotte (2020)
DEN Denver (2021)
DFW Dallas (2013, Expanded 2018)
HKG Hong Kong (2017)
IAH Houston (2016)
JFK New York, Kennedy (2020)
LAS Las Vegas (2013)
LGA New York, La Guardia (2014, reopened in new Terminal 2021)
LHR London, Heathrow (2021)
MIA Miami (2015, Expanded 2019)
PHL Philadelphia (2017)
PHX Phoenix (2020)
SFO San Francisco (2014)
SEA Seattle (2015, Expanded 2017)
This location is closed due to construction:
LAX Los Angeles (2020)
These locations are announced, but not yet open:
DCA Washington, DC
ATL Atlanta, GA
Centurion Lounges [USA] - Location wishlist, rumors and speculation
Jan 12, 2019, 8:37 am
#241
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Yea terminal A doesn’t do much good at EWR (at least for me).
UA needs a large new non Polaris club or someone else needs to open a lounge. The pop up is awful and over crowded and the upstairs one is not designed for the capacity they run at now
UA needs a large new non Polaris club or someone else needs to open a lounge. The pop up is awful and over crowded and the upstairs one is not designed for the capacity they run at now
Jan 12, 2019, 8:42 am
#242
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Looks like LAS and MIA are temporarily closing for renovation. How long does this usually take? I’ve got a long layover in MIA in early March. Was really hoping to spend those hours in the lounge. Also a trip to LAS in mid Feb. Haven’t been to either of these and looking forward to trying them.
Jan 12, 2019, 9:07 am
#244
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Looks like LAS and MIA are temporarily closing for renovation. How long does this usually take? I’ve got a long layover in MIA in early March. Was really hoping to spend those hours in the lounge. Also a trip to LAS in mid Feb. Haven’t been to either of these and looking forward to trying them.
Jan 12, 2019, 9:15 am
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I think a short period implies weeks rather than months, but if they encounter unexpected problems it will run longer.
Last edited by mia; Jan 12, 2019 at 11:36 am
Jan 7, 2020, 8:22 am
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I thought it would be interesting to revisit J.Edward's post from 2015 to see how the build out of the Centurion Lounge network has tracked expectations.
Of the five airports "short listed" by J.Edward, two have opened (IAH, PHL) and two are announced (DEN, CLT). The obvious miss is ORD, where I expect space availability is the barrier.
Still ample opportunity for expansion: ATL, EWR, MCO, MSP, DTW, BOS, DCA.
Of the five airports "short listed" by J.Edward, two have opened (IAH, PHL) and two are announced (DEN, CLT). The obvious miss is ORD, where I expect space availability is the barrier.
Still ample opportunity for expansion: ATL, EWR, MCO, MSP, DTW, BOS, DCA.
For 2014 the FAA lists the following statistics for total passenger boardings (in millions) and I have arbitrarily color coded the airports as:
significant airside access (you can walk to mostly any gate from any other gate without having to re-clear security),
somewhat limited airside access (you can walk to some gates but not the majority of gates, without having to re-clear security), and
limited airside access where you cannot walk from one gate to the majority of other gates without having to re-clear security.
Also I have noted if there's an existing DL hub with multiple SkyClubs andcrossed out locations that already have an AX lounge.
somewhat limited airside access (you can walk to some gates but not the majority of gates, without having to re-clear security), and
limited airside access where you cannot walk from one gate to the majority of other gates without having to re-clear security.
Also I have noted if there's an existing DL hub with multiple SkyClubs and
1. ATL - 46.6; DL hub + SkyClubs
2. LAX - 34.3
3. DFW - 34.2
4. ORD - 33.6
5. JFK - 26.2
6. DEN - 26.0
7. SFO - 22.7
8. CLT - 21.5
9. LAS - 20.5
10. PHX - 20.3
11. IAH - 19.7
12. MIA - 19.4
13. SEA - 17.8
14. EWR - 17.6
15. MCO - 17.2
16. MSP - 16.9; DL hub + SkyClubs
17. DTW - 15.7; DL hub + SkyClubs
18. BOS - 15.4
19. PHL - 14.7
20. LGA - 13.4
26. DCA - 10.0
If we take the top five locations in terms of total passengers, that are well connected airside, and are not Delta hubs (the assumption here is that eligible AX cardholders can use one of the already built SkyClubs), we have the following short-list:2. LAX - 34.3
4. ORD - 33.6
5. JFK - 26.2
6. DEN - 26.0
8. CLT - 21.5
10. PHX - 20.3
11. IAH - 19.7
14. EWR - 17.6
15. MCO - 17.2
16. MSP - 16.9; DL hub + SkyClubs
17. DTW - 15.7; DL hub + SkyClubs
18. BOS - 15.4
19. PHL - 14.7
26. DCA - 10.0
1. ORD
2. DEN
3. CLT
4. IAH
5. PHL
2. DEN
3. CLT
4. IAH
5. PHL
Last edited by mia; Jan 7, 2020 at 8:34 am
Jan 8, 2020, 11:03 pm
#248
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ORD is being rebuilt soon, and the airport may have identified space for a third-party, non-airline lounge to bid on, similar to PHX. Given the lack of Priority Pass lounges, I am sure Amex knows.
BOS is building a connector between terminals B and C that will be complete by 2022, which will mean all of the terminals except for Terminal A will be connected, and A is Delta only now (+ 1 WS gate). They also have plans to build an expansion in Terminal E, and Amex seems to like to put lounges in international terminals. I am a bit surprised they did not buy the Admirals Club space that used to be at B30, but supposedly the airport wanted it back as retail space.
MCO is an odd omission, but it may be due to the lack of premium demand.
Amex gets quite good data on the flights that people buy from the transaction data, so I would have to expect that they have identified the major markets for folks with Platinum cards. Amex's motivation in building and operating the lounges is odd -- they do it so that their products are perceived as premium, however each visit costs them money. It's important that when you are flying Emirates out of JFK T4 you think of the good experiences your Amex Platinum has brought you, but probably less important that you think of that when you are flying to Disney with your family.
BOS is building a connector between terminals B and C that will be complete by 2022, which will mean all of the terminals except for Terminal A will be connected, and A is Delta only now (+ 1 WS gate). They also have plans to build an expansion in Terminal E, and Amex seems to like to put lounges in international terminals. I am a bit surprised they did not buy the Admirals Club space that used to be at B30, but supposedly the airport wanted it back as retail space.
MCO is an odd omission, but it may be due to the lack of premium demand.
Amex gets quite good data on the flights that people buy from the transaction data, so I would have to expect that they have identified the major markets for folks with Platinum cards. Amex's motivation in building and operating the lounges is odd -- they do it so that their products are perceived as premium, however each visit costs them money. It's important that when you are flying Emirates out of JFK T4 you think of the good experiences your Amex Platinum has brought you, but probably less important that you think of that when you are flying to Disney with your family.
Feb 10, 2020, 12:26 pm
#249
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ORD Centurion Lounge?
Chicago O'Hare is the most important airport in the US without a currently announced Centurion Lounge. While other major airports lack clubs (e.g. EWR) the only other US market in the global top 30 without a Centurion or Escape lounge is MCO. •Eventually a Priority Pass lounge will open at MDW.
•Also DL operates clubs at ORD, MCO + EWR, no everyone lives in one of their hub cities or wants to connect...and unlike MCO there are no Priority Pass lounges at ORD.
For many years rumors have been out there that a Centurion ORD would open, and at some point it seems probable, the real question is when. Like at the Escape Lounge in Oakland, happy to buy a drink in SF for whomever guesses closest. (Or guest them into the ORD Cent when we're both connecting.)
•Also DL operates clubs at ORD, MCO + EWR, no everyone lives in one of their hub cities or wants to connect...and unlike MCO there are no Priority Pass lounges at ORD.
For many years rumors have been out there that a Centurion ORD would open, and at some point it seems probable, the real question is when. Like at the Escape Lounge in Oakland, happy to buy a drink in SF for whomever guesses closest. (Or guest them into the ORD Cent when we're both connecting.)
Feb 10, 2020, 9:36 pm
#252
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There are two PP lounges in T5 at ORD. Makes sense there isn't a PP lounge there since all of the big three airports have clubs at ORD.
Feb 10, 2020, 9:39 pm
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Any update on when the PP lounge will be coming to MDW? I'd rather use MDW than ORD, but one of the main reasons I use ORD is that they have a skyclub which is nice if there is a delay. I'd use MDW more if they had a club
Feb 11, 2020, 1:58 pm
#255
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Both Delta and Amex would benefit from additional lounge capacity in ATL from Amex. You will see a similar impact at JFK as the Centurion eases pressure on the SkyClub and increases customer satisfaction