ARCHIVE: AA Awards on Cathay Pacific (2016)
Dec 1, 2016, 4:25 pm
#2371
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 4,541
Has CX been blocking all flights within a few days of departure??
I am looking for next Tuesday from LAX-HKG and yesterday it was wide open and now nothing on any flight or connections in HKG.
I am using BA to search but also called and agent said they couldnt see anything either. If I search later in the week then everything shows, but anything before Tuesday is not available.
Something is up, hopefully this isnt the new norm.
I am looking for next Tuesday from LAX-HKG and yesterday it was wide open and now nothing on any flight or connections in HKG.
I am using BA to search but also called and agent said they couldnt see anything either. If I search later in the week then everything shows, but anything before Tuesday is not available.
Something is up, hopefully this isnt the new norm.
Dec 1, 2016, 4:57 pm
#2372
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Ocean Beach
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Dec 1, 2016, 5:45 pm
#2373
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 4,541
I consider this a major advantage for those booking close-in, or trying to upgrade J to F at the last minute. It eliminates Avios' members from consideration. And long hold times for AA/AS members dialing from Asia may prove a disincentive. As long as nothing else changes, I'm thrilled. Anything that makes it harder, makes the Krug taste all the sweeter. I'm up for the battle.
Jamie
Dec 1, 2016, 7:28 pm
#2374
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: SNA
Programs: AA EXP, Hilton Diamond, Hyatt Globalist, IHG Plat, Marriott Gold, National EE
Posts: 1,204
Is BA still bookable (e.g. for short-hop intra-Asia) when the website doesn't display availability?
Dec 1, 2016, 7:34 pm
#2375
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: ORD [formerly] + HKG
Programs: CX Diamond, AA exExPlat, BAEC exGold, HH Diamond, Hyatt Globalist, Starriott Titanium, GE
Posts: 2,966
Dec 1, 2016, 9:41 pm
#2376
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Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Florida
Posts: 29,763
Yes. Or calling AA/AS.
I consider this a major advantage for those booking close-in, or trying to upgrade J to F at the last minute. It eliminates Avios' members from consideration. And long hold times for AA/AS members dialing from Asia may prove a disincentive. As long as nothing else changes, I'm thrilled. Anything that makes it harder, makes the Krug taste all the sweeter. I'm up for the battle.
Jamie
I consider this a major advantage for those booking close-in, or trying to upgrade J to F at the last minute. It eliminates Avios' members from consideration. And long hold times for AA/AS members dialing from Asia may prove a disincentive. As long as nothing else changes, I'm thrilled. Anything that makes it harder, makes the Krug taste all the sweeter. I'm up for the battle.
Jamie
Dec 2, 2016, 4:14 am
#2377
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 4,541
Isn't that the ATT Direct Access still allows free calls to the 1-800 numbers for the elites? So the long hold time is more an annoyance than a deterrence. IIRC you call the local ATT Direct Access number, then once prompt, dial the 1-800 number of the elite desk, it automatically patches you thru without requiring a CC.
Regardless, this creates more work and eliminates BA from the calculus. So it's a good thing.
Dec 2, 2016, 7:13 am
#2378
Join Date: Aug 2012
Programs: AA PLT, SPG Gold
Posts: 2,405
Works fine of you're calling from a hotel. But for most people on vacation, they probably aren't in their rooms during the day. My assumption is that roaming charges will preclude some - but not all - from obsessively calling American to see if CX F awards have been released. Unless you can ring ATT Direct from a cell phone (perhaps you can, I've never bothered). And for those below EP/CK, there's still the issue of hold times.
Regardless, this creates more work and eliminates BA from the calculus. So it's a good thing.
Regardless, this creates more work and eliminates BA from the calculus. So it's a good thing.
Dec 2, 2016, 7:24 am
#2379
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Join Date: Mar 2001
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If AA had the ability for AAdv members to locate CX awards via AA.com (not that I'd wish for that personally, necessarily,) then BA wouldn't have been compelled to do this.
Last edited by JonNYC; Dec 2, 2016 at 8:13 am Reason: minor change in wording
Dec 2, 2016, 8:00 am
#2380
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 4,541
Wha? Are you suggesting BA eliminated CX awards inside of 6 days because AA members were flooding the BA website? Wow, that's a stretch.
Dec 2, 2016, 8:11 am
#2381
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Dec 2, 2016, 8:15 am
#2382
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Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: NYC
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That sounds weird. If CX (presumably) can make BA pull its display of CX award inventory, why can't they make AA display award inventory on AA.com? I'm guessing AA's IT is just that inept?...
And then to throw the baby out with the bathwater and prohibit ANY booking of CX awards for Avios members within 6 days seems a bit extreme for sure.
I wonder if they'll revert after we hit the 1-year anniversary of the AA chart devaluation when presumably demand for seats/searches will drop substantially (as evidenced by the relative bounty of at least single F (Z) seats on US routes further out in the spring/summer).
And then to throw the baby out with the bathwater and prohibit ANY booking of CX awards for Avios members within 6 days seems a bit extreme for sure.
I wonder if they'll revert after we hit the 1-year anniversary of the AA chart devaluation when presumably demand for seats/searches will drop substantially (as evidenced by the relative bounty of at least single F (Z) seats on US routes further out in the spring/summer).
Dec 2, 2016, 8:40 am
#2383
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$. AA and BA are JV partners with a pretty deep partnership, so there's $ incentive here to have their systems hooked up. AA and CX, not so much. So it's lower on the list.
Dec 2, 2016, 8:47 am
#2384
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 4,541
No bother, it's a major advancement and I'm thrilled with it.
Dec 2, 2016, 11:19 am
#2385
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: DTW/MBS
Programs: UA 1K, HHonors Diamond, Hyatt Globalist, Formerly Starbucks Gold
Posts: 3,525
At this rate I'll never be able to use my miles I'm saving up for a honeymoon on CX F.