ARCHIVE: AA Awards on Cathay Pacific (2016)
Jan 2, 2016, 1:45 am
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ARCHIVE: AA Awards on Cathay Pacific (2016)
I am trying to book an award for 2 passengers for this September with the following routing: ORD - HKG - PVG. For the ORD to HKG leg, I can see a couple of seats available in J and one seat available in F. My question: Is it possible to book one J seat for myself and one F seat for my wife, but issue both tickets as an F award.
My thinking is that if one more F seat becomes available before departure, I can change it to First class without having to redeposit/reissue the ticket and hopefully I can avoid the new First class award level that will become effective in March.
Is AA able to issue the ticket as an F award, although there are not any F segments in the reservation, just J segments so far?
Thanks for your help!
My thinking is that if one more F seat becomes available before departure, I can change it to First class without having to redeposit/reissue the ticket and hopefully I can avoid the new First class award level that will become effective in March.
Is AA able to issue the ticket as an F award, although there are not any F segments in the reservation, just J segments so far?
Thanks for your help!
NOTE: The current thread may be read here:
AA Award: Cathay Pacific / CX all classes, availability, etc. (master thd)
AA Award: Cathay Pacific / CX all classes, availability, etc. (master thd)
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Jan 2, 2016, 5:02 am
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I am trying to book an award for 2 passengers for this September with the following routing: ORD - HKG - PVG. For the ORD to HKG leg, I can see a couple of seats available in J and one seat available in F. My question: Is it possible to book one J seat for myself and one F seat for my wife, but issue both tickets as an F award.
My thinking is that if one more F seat becomes available before departure, I can change it to First class without having to redeposit/reissue the ticket and hopefully I can avoid the new First class award level that will become effective in March.
Is AA able to issue the ticket as an F award, although there are not any F segments in the reservation, just J segments so far?
Thanks for your help!
My thinking is that if one more F seat becomes available before departure, I can change it to First class without having to redeposit/reissue the ticket and hopefully I can avoid the new First class award level that will become effective in March.
Is AA able to issue the ticket as an F award, although there are not any F segments in the reservation, just J segments so far?
Thanks for your help!
Jan 2, 2016, 7:24 am
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I am trying to book an award for 2 passengers for this September with the following routing: ORD - HKG - PVG. For the ORD to HKG leg, I can see a couple of seats available in J and one seat available in F. My question: Is it possible to book one J seat for myself and one F seat for my wife, but issue both tickets as an F award.
My thinking is that if one more F seat becomes available before departure, I can change it to First class without having to redeposit/reissue the ticket and hopefully I can avoid the new First class award level that will become effective in March.
Is AA able to issue the ticket as an F award, although there are not any F segments in the reservation, just J segments so far?
Thanks for your help!
My thinking is that if one more F seat becomes available before departure, I can change it to First class without having to redeposit/reissue the ticket and hopefully I can avoid the new First class award level that will become effective in March.
Is AA able to issue the ticket as an F award, although there are not any F segments in the reservation, just J segments so far?
Thanks for your help!
Jan 2, 2016, 7:38 am
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That is correct. I think like 2x a week there is a KA flight with F HKG-PVG, if by some chance that could be integrated into the award then I'd think you could book the award in award F with voluntary downgrade on ORD-HKG leg.
Jan 2, 2016, 8:31 am
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I am trying to do JFK-HKG-CMB. I found J availability on JFK-HKG(-BKK) which I put on hold, and separately, HKG-CMB for the correct dates, using the BA tool. There is a J seat the entire way JFK-CMB, but for some reason, AA couldn't see the whole thing put together (neither did BA, I just ran them separately and found there were seats).
Is this something worth mentioning to AA, that seats are available, but why aren't they joining for the entire JFK-HKG-CMB trip?
Is this something worth mentioning to AA, that seats are available, but why aren't they joining for the entire JFK-HKG-CMB trip?
Jan 2, 2016, 8:41 am
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I tried HUCA to get this done many, many times...all with zero success. Although others have said this is not doable and have been told no by agents, I have made it work (with some reminding of the agents about the 3-class issues given hat the system will not automatically pick it up) by adding JFK-LAX/SFO in F.
Jan 2, 2016, 8:45 am
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I tried HUCA to get this done many, many times...all with zero success. Although others have said this is not doable and have been told no by agents, I have made it work (with some reminding of the agents about the 3-class issues given hat the system will not automatically pick it up) by adding JFK-LAX/SFO in F.
Jan 2, 2016, 8:46 am
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I am trying to do JFK-HKG-CMB. I found J availability on JFK-HKG(-BKK) which I put on hold, and separately, HKG-CMB for the correct dates, using the BA tool. There is a J seat the entire way JFK-CMB, but for some reason, AA couldn't see the whole thing put together (neither did BA, I just ran them separately and found there were seats).
Is this something worth mentioning to AA, that seats are available, but why aren't they joining for the entire JFK-HKG-CMB trip?
Is this something worth mentioning to AA, that seats are available, but why aren't they joining for the entire JFK-HKG-CMB trip?
If you see the segments, call and have them book it segment by segment.
Jan 2, 2016, 9:11 am
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Given the above, as the departure date gets closer (I'm 14 days out), in the BA tool to look for F, should I be running JFK-CMB or just JFK-HKG (no F on HKG-CMB)?
I'm worried that if I run JFK-CMB in BA for F, it will say no availability (like it did for J this morning for me), but if I do JFK-HKG and find F, will the agent be able to upgrade the class of service on JFK-HKG irrespective of the HKG-CMB leg?
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Jan 2, 2016, 9:26 am
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That's so weird, it worked!!! I literally called an hour ago and they weren't able to see JFK-HKG-CMB in J, but when I put on hold JFK-HKG-BKK in J, and then found HKG-CMB in J, the agent was able to sub in CMB for BKK. Happy but a little confused!
Given the above, as the departure date gets closer (I'm 14 days out), in the BA tool to look for F, should I be running JFK-CMB or just JFK-HKG (no F on HKG-CMB)?
I'm worried that if I run JFK-CMB in BA for F, it will say no availability (like it did for J this morning for me), but if I do JFK-HKG and find F, will the agent be able to upgrade the class of service on JFK-HKG irrespective of the HKG-CMB leg?
Given the above, as the departure date gets closer (I'm 14 days out), in the BA tool to look for F, should I be running JFK-CMB or just JFK-HKG (no F on HKG-CMB)?
I'm worried that if I run JFK-CMB in BA for F, it will say no availability (like it did for J this morning for me), but if I do JFK-HKG and find F, will the agent be able to upgrade the class of service on JFK-HKG irrespective of the HKG-CMB leg?
Yes - look for only the single segment.
Yes - the agent will be able to upgrade the JFK-HKG to first (with the additional miles of course). They will leave the HKG-CMB segment as is.
Jan 2, 2016, 9:27 am
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With BA and JAL being so inconsistent, am I reading correctly from other posts, that we should just instead call aa, and use the aa phone rep as a travel agent, and have them search for F availability?
Or should the strategy remain looking on BA and JAL, and then spoon-feeding the aa folks?
Or should the strategy remain looking on BA and JAL, and then spoon-feeding the aa folks?
Jan 2, 2016, 9:34 am
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With BA and JAL being so inconsistent, am I reading correctly from other posts, that we should just instead call aa, and use the aa phone rep as a travel agent, and have them search for F availability?
Or should the strategy remain looking on BA and JAL, and then spoon-feeding the aa folks?
Or should the strategy remain looking on BA and JAL, and then spoon-feeding the aa folks?
Jan 2, 2016, 8:12 pm
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Considering that AA had booked me on CX flights that BA/JL sites don't see, I'd suggest answer is "both". FYI, last time I asked for JFKHKG availability, agent said no and then said, "hold on, let me tab forward to the second and third screen" where she then found it. Her original screen was only coming up with AA options over DFW.
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Jan 3, 2016, 7:51 am
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With BA and JAL being so inconsistent, am I reading correctly from other posts, that we should just instead call aa, and use the aa phone rep as a travel agent, and have them search for F availability?
Or should the strategy remain looking on BA and JAL, and then spoon-feeding the aa folks?
Or should the strategy remain looking on BA and JAL, and then spoon-feeding the aa folks?
Thanks for asking just the question I've been pondering today.
Jan 3, 2016, 10:57 am
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With BA and JAL being so inconsistent, am I reading correctly from other posts, that we should just instead call aa, and use the aa phone rep as a travel agent, and have them search for F availability?
Or should the strategy remain looking on BA and JAL, and then spoon-feeding the aa folks?
Or should the strategy remain looking on BA and JAL, and then spoon-feeding the aa folks?