ARCHIVE: AA Awards on Cathay Pacific (2016)
Jan 3, 2016, 11:52 am
#16
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: NYC
Programs: DL DM
Posts: 80
What are A fares on CX? Potential upgrade seats? EF is showing me F5 A5 on JFK-HKG. My flight is 12 days out, can I expect, barring these seats are not sold, that 4 will come online nearer to departure?
On ExpertFlyer, what class code letter should correspond to OW availability for awards?
EDIT: oh it seems that awards are not available on CX... any guidance on how to make sense of the F5 A5 moving forward (I'm assuming 4 seats will be released prior to the flight if nothing is sold...)
On ExpertFlyer, what class code letter should correspond to OW availability for awards?
EDIT: oh it seems that awards are not available on CX... any guidance on how to make sense of the F5 A5 moving forward (I'm assuming 4 seats will be released prior to the flight if nothing is sold...)
Last edited by ZKrunk; Jan 3, 2016 at 12:16 pm
Jan 3, 2016, 12:36 pm
#17
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Boulder
Programs: AA Plat, CX Silver
Posts: 2,361
What are A fares on CX? Potential upgrade seats? EF is showing me F5 A5 on JFK-HKG. My flight is 12 days out, can I expect, barring these seats are not sold, that 4 will come online nearer to departure?
On ExpertFlyer, what class code letter should correspond to OW availability for awards?
EDIT: oh it seems that awards are not available on CX... any guidance on how to make sense of the F5 A5 moving forward (I'm assuming 4 seats will be released prior to the flight if nothing is sold...)
On ExpertFlyer, what class code letter should correspond to OW availability for awards?
EDIT: oh it seems that awards are not available on CX... any guidance on how to make sense of the F5 A5 moving forward (I'm assuming 4 seats will be released prior to the flight if nothing is sold...)
Jan 3, 2016, 1:30 pm
#18
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 462
I'm at 15 days out from return. Best I can tell is CX allows me to dummy book 4 F seats and I already have 1 in F (looking to upgrade my husband from J) so looks to be mostly open. At what point should I start heavily monitoring availability to try to upgrade him? 1 week? 5 days?
Jan 3, 2016, 1:33 pm
#19
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 4,542
I'm at 15 days out from return. Best I can tell is CX allows me to dummy book 4 F seats and I already have 1 in F (looking to upgrade my husband from J) so looks to be mostly open. At what point should I start heavily monitoring availability to try to upgrade him? 1 week? 5 days?
Jan 3, 2016, 1:57 pm
#20
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 4,542
Like any website, the first page of flight options pops up, you have to manually move to subsequent pages. It sounded as if the system automatically displays AA flights first, requiring intrepid agents to tab to a 2nd of 3rd screen to find CX nonstops.
Jan 3, 2016, 2:17 pm
#21
Join Date: May 1998
Posts: 6,790
Others have mentioned this. It appears that the AA screen does indeed present AA itineraries first, and partner flights afterwards. This means that the CSR may need to page to the end in order to find CX or JL flights on a given routing, particularly if AA also flies that route.
Jan 3, 2016, 4:20 pm
#22
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 2,592
Others have mentioned this. It appears that the AA screen does indeed present AA itineraries first, and partner flights afterwards. This means that the CSR may need to page to the end in order to find CX or JL flights on a given routing, particularly if AA also flies that route.
On AA.com, seems that only AA metal is offered for award on LAX-SYD.
Jan 3, 2016, 4:46 pm
#23
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Jan 4, 2016, 9:33 am
#24
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: NYC
Programs: DL DM
Posts: 80
When looking at ExpertFlyer for itineraries CMB-HKG-JFK, EF shows me different amounts of J inventory for the same flight CMB-HKG (CX610, once a day) but connecting to different HKG-JFK flights. Picture attached.
Why is this?
Why is this?
Jan 4, 2016, 9:35 am
#25
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: BOS
Programs: AA EXP, DL PM, Hyatt Diamond
Posts: 2,028
It's capped based on the availability of the connecting flight.
Jan 4, 2016, 9:51 am
#26
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: SFO
Programs: UA GS
Posts: 164
I've been checking every few hours for availability on a flight that's in less than 24 hours-- no F seats are opening up, though there are 5/6 available. I'm guessing it's because the other cabins are all zeroed out but wondering if anyone has thoughts. Here's what EF is showing for the flight:
F5 A0 J0 C0 D0 I0 W0 R0 E0 Y0 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0
Wondering if I should get my life back and stop calling every hour or if there's still hope...
F5 A0 J0 C0 D0 I0 W0 R0 E0 Y0 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0
Wondering if I should get my life back and stop calling every hour or if there's still hope...
Jan 4, 2016, 9:56 am
#27
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 4,542
I've been checking every few hours for availability on a flight that's in less than 24 hours-- no F seats are opening up, though there are 5/6 available. I'm guessing it's because the other cabins are all zeroed out but wondering if anyone has thoughts. Here's what EF is showing for the flight:
F5 A0 J0 C0 D0 I0 W0 R0 E0 Y0 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0
Wondering if I should get my life back and stop calling every hour or if there's still hope...
F5 A0 J0 C0 D0 I0 W0 R0 E0 Y0 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0
Wondering if I should get my life back and stop calling every hour or if there's still hope...
Jan 4, 2016, 10:00 am
#28
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: YVR
Programs: AC: E50K, AP: dDiamond
Posts: 963
FWIW, it is regularly noted in the Etihad availability thread that though there is valid inventory, US based agents cannot see it. A quick Skype call to the Australia team works perfectly.
I was trying to book an EY-EY-CX routing and the US agent couldn't see ANY of the legs, and the Australian agent easily saw all 3 and booked it for me.
Worth a try for CX only itineraries too.
Mark
I was trying to book an EY-EY-CX routing and the US agent couldn't see ANY of the legs, and the Australian agent easily saw all 3 and booked it for me.
Worth a try for CX only itineraries too.
Mark
Jan 4, 2016, 10:20 am
#29
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What are A fares on CX? Potential upgrade seats? EF is showing me F5 A5 on JFK-HKG. My flight is 12 days out, can I expect, barring these seats are not sold, that 4 will come online nearer to departure?
EDIT: oh it seems that awards are not available on CX... any guidance on how to make sense of the F5 A5 moving forward (I'm assuming 4 seats will be released prior to the flight if nothing is sold...)
EDIT: oh it seems that awards are not available on CX... any guidance on how to make sense of the F5 A5 moving forward (I'm assuming 4 seats will be released prior to the flight if nothing is sold...)
Any unsold F seat, except for likely 1, is a potential future award seat.
Jan 4, 2016, 11:26 am
#30
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Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: LAX, HKG, and BKK
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What are A fares on CX? Potential upgrade seats? EF is showing me F5 A5 on JFK-HKG. My flight is 12 days out, can I expect, barring these seats are not sold, that 4 will come online nearer to departure?
On ExpertFlyer, what class code letter should correspond to OW availability for awards?
EDIT: oh it seems that awards are not available on CX... any guidance on how to make sense of the F5 A5 moving forward (I'm assuming 4 seats will be released prior to the flight if nothing is sold...)
On ExpertFlyer, what class code letter should correspond to OW availability for awards?
EDIT: oh it seems that awards are not available on CX... any guidance on how to make sense of the F5 A5 moving forward (I'm assuming 4 seats will be released prior to the flight if nothing is sold...)