ARCHIVE: AA Awards on Cathay Pacific (2016)
#2266
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 4,541
Having claimed close to 50 one-way CX awards between JFK and HKG, the majority in F, I've never snagged one more than 21 days out unless booking at the edge of the first window (so, 50 weeks in advance). I can't say impossible, but I will suggest unlikely.
#2267
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Florida
Posts: 29,763
No idea on HKG-JFK because we prefer LAX so I do not follow the JFK availability.
#2268
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 4,541
As the AA predeval bookings are used up, now it is much easier to find the 1F on the HKG-LAX-HKG route - there are quite a few still available for Jul/Aug travel now the booking window has opened for well over 2 months or more. The seats are still there.
No idea on HKG-JFK because we prefer LAX so I do not follow the JFK availability.
No idea on HKG-JFK because we prefer LAX so I do not follow the JFK availability.
#2269
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Florida
Posts: 29,763
Very helpful. FWIW, I didn't mean to gloat, just merely stressing I've been doing this for a while. We are doing our 7th Bali trip next summer, though flying JL on the way over to Japan, to start. I do miss when 2 F were routinely released, though I believe around 2014 that went away. Maybe earlier. Fretting the return as I'm concerned CX will do away with close-in saver awards...pitting me for a showdown with the Mrs as to who flies back in F (in the event we can't get a second seat).
On the way back F was full, 4 seats were staff of one company on business trip, 3 men and a woman. The guy in 2A stood by my 1A and chatted with the 1D incessantly before take off. Very annoying. I offered to switch seat but he turned it down. Had he continued doing that in flight I would complain to the FA but mercifully he ate and went to sleep. But this group still woke up early and make me and one other passenger in 1K woke up involuntarily. Husband on the other hand, had a nice and quiet time in his 11A. So not always peachy in F!
Coming up in Feb, we are on 882 and 884, a few hours apart HKG-LAX for our 1F respectively. If an extra F opens up on either flight, we could switch. If not, we go to LAX hotel separately.
PS
ORD seems to be very light load these days. Amazing availability. It used to be very hard so much so CX added a second daily flight but soon axed it. The load for whatever reason, just dropped a lot. I cannot figure out what is behind it - is it some mainland Chinese airlines also compete on the ORD route?
Last edited by Happy; Nov 9, 2016 at 8:31 pm
#2270
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: PHX
Programs: AA, SPG, UR
Posts: 329
Thanks! If anyone comes across a 1F on Jan 6/7/8 out of LAX/SFO please PM me Other hubs are ok but would be difficult to connect from PHX. I have been looking daily but no luck.
#2271
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: DCA/IAD/WAS
Programs: MAR AMB, WOH Explorist, AA EXP, UA 2P
Posts: 2,138
Yes, AA took away that button. There actually is a specific thread on this issue, hence the work around. Search FT you will find the thread but the gist is, that workaround kindly provided by LukasVIE is THE ONLY WAY now you could get your receipt with itinerary details and ticket number, so you know your reservation is indeed ticketed - especially after some changes and reissue. And I am sure you know how important that is, to get a fresh Receipt so to make sure your ticket is properly reissued.
#2273
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 29
hi - i was wondering if someone could help me. i'm looking to redeem a tix from hkg to boston for christmas - i know a longshot. does anyone know if there is usually inventory right before christmas (close-in) and return after new year? is this a complete long shot or is it a possibility?
#2274
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: ORD [formerly] + HKG
Programs: CX Diamond, AA exExPlat, BAEC exGold, HH Diamond, Hyatt Globalist, Starriott Titanium, GE
Posts: 2,966
hi - i was wondering if someone could help me. i'm looking to redeem a tix from hkg to boston for christmas - i know a longshot. does anyone know if there is usually inventory right before christmas (close-in) and return after new year? is this a complete long shot or is it a possibility?
If you are redeeming J or F, the seat map is a good indication of how many seats taken. Normally if more than 30, then they won't release until very late. More than 45 probably not going to release.
#2275
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 4,541
Same here. It used to be 2F very easy to find. Now we resort to either on different flights a few hours apart or one in F one in J. Husband does not drink, does not like caviar, with the only requirement being a flat bed, so naturally he is in J. Sometimes I dont even bother to try to grab the last min release if we are already on the road such as the recent trip LAX-HKG-JNB-HKG-LAX with stopover at HKG both ways. Leaving home for LAX a day before and it was F2, no award seat AS could see. We left with 3 empty seats in F. FA told me it was F2 up to 24 hours before departure and then it changed to F3. I told ISM Mr. was in 11A and I would check on him in flight periodically and discretely. She said no problem and insisted to give him a PJ.
On the way back F was full, 4 seats were staff of one company on business trip, 3 men and a woman. The guy in 2A stood by my 1A and chatted with the 1D incessantly before take off. Very annoying. I offered to switch seat but he turned it down. Had he continued doing that in flight I would complain to the FA but mercifully he ate and went to sleep. But this group still woke up early and make me and one other passenger in 1K woke up involuntarily. Husband on the other hand, had a nice and quiet time in his 11A. So not always peachy in F!
Coming up in Feb, we are on 882 and 884, a few hours apart HKG-LAX for our 1F respectively. If an extra F opens up on either flight, we could switch. If not, we go to LAX hotel separately.
PS
ORD seems to be very light load these days. Amazing availability. It used to be very hard so much so CX added a second daily flight but soon axed it. The load for whatever reason, just dropped a lot. I cannot figure out what is behind it - is it some mainland Chinese airlines also compete on the ORD route?
On the way back F was full, 4 seats were staff of one company on business trip, 3 men and a woman. The guy in 2A stood by my 1A and chatted with the 1D incessantly before take off. Very annoying. I offered to switch seat but he turned it down. Had he continued doing that in flight I would complain to the FA but mercifully he ate and went to sleep. But this group still woke up early and make me and one other passenger in 1K woke up involuntarily. Husband on the other hand, had a nice and quiet time in his 11A. So not always peachy in F!
Coming up in Feb, we are on 882 and 884, a few hours apart HKG-LAX for our 1F respectively. If an extra F opens up on either flight, we could switch. If not, we go to LAX hotel separately.
PS
ORD seems to be very light load these days. Amazing availability. It used to be very hard so much so CX added a second daily flight but soon axed it. The load for whatever reason, just dropped a lot. I cannot figure out what is behind it - is it some mainland Chinese airlines also compete on the ORD route?
Generally, I book wife in F, self in J, kids in J, at the edge of the window. They, I upgrade one of the kids to F but I take their seat. I do this because I want an Emerald to be part of the J reservation so as to access row 11. In the event we are split cabins, my wife and I look in on the kids from time to time, though they love being left alone and just enjoying the experience.
So, hoping for that second F seat next August!
Jamie
#2276
was ShootinPutin11
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: San Francisco, CA
Programs: AA-Plat, Hyatt-Globalist, Hilton-Diamond, Marriott-Titanium, UA-Silver, DL-Silver
Posts: 131
Jamie, thanks also for confirming that it's not worth the time to keep checking back. As much as I've read plenty of times that awards are only available 50 weeks in advance or a couple of weeks before the flight, it's stressful to keep checking and getting no availability!!
#2277
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 4,541
Thanks for the helpful tip!
Jamie, thanks also for confirming that it's not worth the time to keep checking back. As much as I've read plenty of times that awards are only available 50 weeks in advance or a couple of weeks before the flight, it's stressful to keep checking and getting no availability!!
Jamie, thanks also for confirming that it's not worth the time to keep checking back. As much as I've read plenty of times that awards are only available 50 weeks in advance or a couple of weeks before the flight, it's stressful to keep checking and getting no availability!!
#2278
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Florida
Posts: 29,763
I like how you roll. In my case, my kids don't drink and they don't like caviar, so I don't fret about getting them up in F...though if I easily can, I do (more caviar for me!).
Generally, I book wife in F, self in J, kids in J, at the edge of the window. They, I upgrade one of the kids to F but I take their seat. I do this because I want an Emerald to be part of the J reservation so as to access row 11. In the event we are split cabins, my wife and I look in on the kids from time to time, though they love being left alone and just enjoying the experience.
So, hoping for that second F seat next August!
Jamie
Generally, I book wife in F, self in J, kids in J, at the edge of the window. They, I upgrade one of the kids to F but I take their seat. I do this because I want an Emerald to be part of the J reservation so as to access row 11. In the event we are split cabins, my wife and I look in on the kids from time to time, though they love being left alone and just enjoying the experience.
So, hoping for that second F seat next August!
Jamie
This time once I booked the 2017 Sept trip I called to get 2A for us as well as to change 1A to 2A for the upcoming Feb trip, both are HKG-LAX on 4 flights. Luckily only needed to wait 10 min before an agent in Vancouver picked up the phone at around 10:30 am PST. I believe CX only has Vancouver call center now handles all calls in North America.
Last edited by Happy; Nov 10, 2016 at 5:25 pm
#2279
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 4,541
Being lowly Golds, I have to call CX to get row 11 or 2A for that matter. On the recent flight I totally forgot to call after getting 1A back in Dec 2015. So I was "stuck" in 1A - I found 1A could be disturbed by the fasten seat bell light and the bathroom availability light when in bed position. I had to wear eye mask to go to sleep. Same lights would be blocked by 1A's seat back for the person in 2A.
This time once I booked the 2017 Sept trip I called to get 2A for us as well as to change 1A to 2A for the upcoming Feb trip, both are HKG-LAX on 4 flights. Luckily only needed to wait 10 min before an agent in Vancouver picked up the phone at around 10:30 am PST. I believe CX only has Vancouver call center now handles all calls in North America.
This time once I booked the 2017 Sept trip I called to get 2A for us as well as to change 1A to 2A for the upcoming Feb trip, both are HKG-LAX on 4 flights. Luckily only needed to wait 10 min before an agent in Vancouver picked up the phone at around 10:30 am PST. I believe CX only has Vancouver call center now handles all calls in North America.
2A rocks.
Jamie
#2280
Join Date: May 2012
Programs: US Platinum
Posts: 7
About 14 days out what is the probability of releasing another F seat of they just released one at the 2 week mark?... we have 2 seats in Biz but don't really want to be separated.... trying to determine I should grab the F seat and hope or wait... (availability shown X1 on BA/QF sites)... many thx...