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Old Jan 18, 2017, 9:12 pm
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What is Basic Economy?
Basic Economy is (generally) the lowest, "no-frills" Main Cabin (Economy) fare on American Airlines and their Atlantic Joint Business partners (British Airways, Iberia, and Finnair). Basic Economy fares on American Airlines book into the As the lowest fare, it has some special restrictions that other Main Cabin fares do not.

What are the Restrictions?
You can read American Airlines' web page summarizing Basic Economy for the exact details, but there are a few points that likely matter most to FlyerTalkers:
  1. Your first checked bag will cost money on a Basic Economy fare*.
  2. Your seat will be automatically assigned when you check in and unchangeable, unless you pay to change your seat. You may pay to reserve a seat any time after booking*.
  3. No elite upgrades to first class, or complimentary access to preferred seats (green on the seat map) or Main Cabin Extra (orange on the seat map)*.
  4. You will board last, in Group 9 for domestic flights or Group 8 for international flights*. On a full flight, this likely means you will have to gate check your carry-on bag (which is free)*.
  5. You will earn 50% EQMs per mile flown and 0.5 EQS per segment. You will earn full RDMs (based on fare flown) and EQDs.
  6. Changes are not permitted (worldwide from 01APR21).
  7. In IRROPS, Basic Economy customers will not be re-accommodated on other airlines, and will have to wait for the next American Airlines flight (or BA/IB/AY for INTL).

* exceptions apply for American Airlines elite-level frequent flyers as noted below.

Despite these restrictions, Basic Economy can be a good value in certain circumstances.

Are the seats or service any different?
Once you are on the airplane, the experience (seats / drinks / snacks) will be identical to regular Main Cabin.

How can I tell if I have a Basic Economy fare?
Your reservation on aa.com may say it. Basic Economy fares on American Airlines flights book into the B booking class, though Basic Economy fares on BA/IB/AY and their AA* codeshares can book into almost any revenue booking class.

I have an AA credit card, what does that get me?
Yes, if you have an American Airlines credit card that comes with preferred boarding or a free checked bag on domestic itineraries, you will receive those benefits. Additionally, if you have a Citi Executive card, you may use the Admirals Club as normal.

I have AA elite status, what does that get me?
You WILL get the following elite benefits when you buy a Basic Economy fare (note this is not an exhaustive list, basically everything not expressly forbidden is allowed):
  1. 1/2/3 checked bag fees waives, depending on status.
  2. Priority check-in / security / boarding.
  3. Lounge access, if applicable.
You WILL NOT receive the following elite benefits on a Basic Economy fare:
  1. No same-day standby or same-day confirmed flight changes, paid or otherwise.
Will I be seated with my child?
As it does today, American’s reservations system will check for families traveling with children 13 and under a few days before the flight, and attempt to seat each child with an adult. This is the same process we follow for Main Cabin customers.
Families with children over 13 will have to pay for seat assignments to be seated with their children.

I am flying on a British Airways, Iberia, or Finnair airplane, is anything different?
If you do not have AA or oneworld elite status, the restrictions are quite similar and you should expect to pay for everything: paid checked bags, paid seat selection, and no changes / cancellations. Depending on available fare classes, you may have an opportunity to earn additional redeemable miles or elite qualifying dollars by booking a BA / IB / AY flight number instead of an AA flight number; check your options and the partner earning charts on AA for each respective airline (British Airways, Iberia, Finnair).

If you have status, buckle up, because it gets technical, though there are some opportunities to cherry pick benefits and save money. This has been already summarized in the counterpart to this thread on the British Airways forum.​​, so we will not reproduce it here. Note the following correspondences between status levels:
  • AA Gold - BA Bronze - oneworld Ruby
  • AA Platinum or Platinum Pro - BA Silver - oneworld Sapphire
  • AA Executive Platinum or Concierge Key - BA Gold - oneworld Emerald
Generally, there seem to be the following opportunities for arbitrage:
  • If you are a Platinum, Platinum Pro, or Executive Platinum elite, you can generally book Iberia or Finnair-operated Basic Economy flights and not notice any baggage or seating restrictions, as long as they were not marketed by BA.
  • If you do not care about your seat assignment, you can book AA-operated flights with an IB or AY flight number and still receive a checked bag if you are Platinum or higher. You may earn more or fewer RDMs, EQMs, and EQDs.
  • If you do not need to check a bag, you can book BA-operated flights with any flight number, and can choose your seat (7 days in advance for Gold, at booking for Platinum and higher, Exit Rows for EXP).
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Old May 24, 2020, 5:32 pm
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Originally Posted by Aparicio
Sorry if this is posted somewhere else, I've looked but can't find anything similar.
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Looking at rt routing from SFO-ORD-BCN in July. Purchase on Iberia all AA flights, "Economy Basic" I don't need to check bags, but it appears that I was able to choose seats using my status.
Seems too good to be true, saving ~$200+ rt from AA "Basic Economy" but still getting Pro benefits.
If I purchase with Iberia will I continue to get EQDs based on miles flown vs. fare? I can't find the booking code anywhere.
Any other pitfalls I should be aware of ?
thanks in advance. Hope everyone is staying healthy...time to fly again!
Welcome to FlyerTalk.

As AA is operating the flights, AA will often have their policies supersede Iberia’s on the day of flight. You’ll be able to access your one world Sapphire benefits such as lounge access, etc. Changes in advance you’ll have to work out with Iberia, the day of flight with AA. In my experience, AA handles things significantly better on the ground.

See the thread and link below for your EQD, EQM and bonus miles earnings.

AA earning on Iberia - link (as the marketing airline, the one whose code you fly, determines the earnings)

See https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/amer...-partners.html
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Old May 24, 2020, 10:38 pm
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I tried to clean up the Wiki a bit, and in doing so and reading this thread I raised a few questions:
  1. Do oneworld elites get bag / boarding / any benefits on American B fares?
  2. If you book an AA codeshare operated by BA / IB / AY in Basic Economy, and your booking class on the codeshare is O, will you earn full EQMs / EQSs or do AA's computers know to check for a BE fare?
  3. If you book a BA / IB / AY prime flight, is earning strictly based on the booking class (e.g. O), with no 50% adjustment for Basic Economy?
  4. There have been reports of folks booking a BA / IB / AY codeshare in Basic Economy operated by AA that have been able to select a seat... is this still true?
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Old May 24, 2020, 11:07 pm
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Originally Posted by VFR
I tried to clean up the Wiki a bit, and in doing so and reading this thread I raised a few questions:
  1. Do oneworld elites get bag / boarding / any benefits on American B fares?
  2. If you book an AA codeshare operated by BA / IB / AY in Basic Economy, and your booking class on the codeshare is O, will you earn full EQMs / EQSs or do AA's computers know to check for a BE fare?
  3. If you book a BA / IB / AY prime flight, is earning strictly based on the booking class (e.g. O), with no 50% adjustment for Basic Economy?
  4. There have been reports of folks booking a BA / IB / AY codeshare in Basic Economy operated by AA that have been able to select a seat... is this still true?
Have you see the recent BA subforum Atlantic Joint Business (AJB) basic fares thread?
Link----> Guide to AJB Basic Economy fares

Another AA subforum basic thread (that may get merged)----> https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/amer...at-select.html

And post 150 graphic https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/30365110-post150.html

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Old Jun 9, 2020, 2:14 pm
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thanks all for the good insight! Unfortunately AA cancelled the ORD-BCN flight, so now I have to figure something else out. looking at British Air I can see flights from SFO-LHR, and LHR-BCN, but no SFO-LHR-BCN, all available itineraries are through AA with 2 stops.
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Old Jun 9, 2020, 3:22 pm
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Originally Posted by Aparicio
thanks all for the good insight! Unfortunately AA cancelled the ORD-BCN flight, so now I have to figure something else out. looking at British Air I can see flights from SFO-LHR, and LHR-BCN, but no SFO-LHR-BCN, all available itineraries are through AA with 2 stops.
Isn't there still a JFK-BCN flight on AA?
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Old Jun 9, 2020, 4:29 pm
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Originally Posted by enviroian
Isn't there still a JFK-BCN flight on AA?
Nope. That flight won’t be resumed till late October.
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Old Jul 3, 2020, 8:25 pm
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My first Basic Economy experience wasn’t bad at all. While a short flight being able to board according to your AA status definitely helps with making sure you have bin space. Not to mention this was a great way to actually put my AMEX travel credits to work 🙂. While drinks are suppose to be by request on flights under 900 miles in this COVID era the FA’s never got up after take off. Can check out my experience below.

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Old Jul 4, 2020, 11:36 am
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Originally Posted by tbone14
1. Yes, you get assigned a seat when you check in. You can only change the seat if you wish to pay for a seat upgrade after check in. You cannot change from one main cabin to another main cabin seat freely. (When I have purchased a BE ticket, I check in as late as possible. They randomly assign the worst seats first. Back of plane, middle seats, then move forward. I monitor the open seats on AA.com and check in when I think I have a good chance to be assigned window or aisle.)
2. All pax on the same record receive your free baggage allowance.


Thanks for the insight, as someone who competed for decades for the upgrade, better seat choice on SW, always checked in right at start. Quite frustrating to be assigned 32B on an A321 when the seat map showed 20 other alternatives in that particular cabin.
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Old Sep 13, 2020, 9:49 am
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AA Plat Exec on Iberia Basic Fare (with Companion)

Apology in advance as I searched and read through many threads and I'm still super confused.

So, I bought a basic fare on Iberia's website (roundtrip direct BOS-BCN) for 6 passengers on one PNR. I am the only one with status (AA Executive Platinum). I understand that Basic does not have luggage allowance and seat selection. But do I get anything by being Exec Plat (OneWorld Emerald)? How about companions on my PNR? Thanks.
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Old Sep 13, 2020, 10:25 am
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Originally Posted by BlindPilot
Apology in advance as I searched and read through many threads and I'm still super confused.

So, I bought a basic fare on Iberia's website (roundtrip direct BOS-BCN) for 6 passengers on one PNR. I am the only one with status (AA Executive Platinum). I understand that Basic does not have luggage allowance and seat selection. But do I get anything by being Exec Plat (OneWorld Emerald)? How about companions on my PNR? Thanks.
Iberia is beyond inconsistent. However, at a general level you should be able to check-in at the Business Class counter, standard lounge benefits, but for boarding, Iberia is always a huge mess. Often I have been skipped in line by non-status, non-Business Class passengers in Boston (IB usually gets a corner gate with very inefficient boarding lanes). Good luck!
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Old Sep 13, 2020, 10:26 am
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Best asked in the Iberia forum, as a one world emerald status holder.

My recollection is that you do. Important to have status on the boarding card, easy in revenue, requires booking yourself as “other”, (not self) if an award.

but since I haven’t flown them in almost a year, it’s dated info.
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Old Oct 31, 2020, 5:28 pm
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This is my first time using AA basic economy and I am unable to check in online, is this expected?

It's a cash basic economy domestic US ticket, all AA metal, one-way , all bought on aa.com. I have no status. Flight isn't oversold.

Flight leaves within 24 hours, and under Manage Trips I don't even see a checkin button to be able to check in. I called AA and they said it's because I have a basic econ ticket with seat unassigned, but I wanted to ask here if this is correct/expected because this just sounds like agent is wrong? I should still be able to have the option to check in online for a straightforward basic economy cash domestic US ticket within 24 hours no?
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Old Oct 31, 2020, 5:34 pm
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Originally Posted by nomiiiii
This is my first time using AA basic economy and I am unable to check in online, is this expected?

It's a cash basic economy domestic US ticket, all AA metal, one-way , all bought on aa.com. I have no status. Flight isn't oversold.

Flight leaves within 24 hours, and under Manage Trips I don't even see a checkin button to be able to check in. I called AA and they said it's because I have a basic econ ticket with seat unassigned, but I wanted to ask here if this is correct/expected because this just sounds like agent is wrong? I should still be able to have the option to check in online for a basic economy domestic US ticket within 24 hours no?
you should be able to see it and able check in online. If you are nit able to do it it’s probably AA glitch and they will just check you at the airport
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Old Oct 31, 2020, 5:57 pm
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Originally Posted by gateH15
you should be able to see it and able check in online. If you are nit able to do it it’s probably AA glitch and they will just check you at the airport
Thanks, was able to check in looks like at T-22 hours the option appeared instead of typical T-24
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Old Feb 17, 2021, 11:44 am
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Main Cabin for me (elite), Basic for partner (non-elite) while using my benefits?

Hi all,

Looking at a ticket this summer for my partner and I. I'm elite and would like to earn EQMs, he literally could not care less. If I book Basic Economy for him and Main Cabin for I, I'm assuming it would need to be under 2 different confirmations. Are the agents able to tie the reservations together in a way so that he can use my benefits (we can select seats together, each check a bag, etc.) as if we are both booked on one confirmation number?

It would actually earn AA more money as I'm booking BE if it's not possible (not worth the difference x2 to get the EQMs).
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