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Old Jan 18, 2017, 9:12 pm
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What is Basic Economy?
Basic Economy is (generally) the lowest, "no-frills" Main Cabin (Economy) fare on American Airlines and their Atlantic Joint Business partners (British Airways, Iberia, and Finnair). Basic Economy fares on American Airlines book into the As the lowest fare, it has some special restrictions that other Main Cabin fares do not.

What are the Restrictions?
You can read American Airlines' web page summarizing Basic Economy for the exact details, but there are a few points that likely matter most to FlyerTalkers:
  1. Your first checked bag will cost money on a Basic Economy fare*.
  2. Your seat will be automatically assigned when you check in and unchangeable, unless you pay to change your seat. You may pay to reserve a seat any time after booking*.
  3. No elite upgrades to first class, or complimentary access to preferred seats (green on the seat map) or Main Cabin Extra (orange on the seat map)*.
  4. You will board last, in Group 9 for domestic flights or Group 8 for international flights*. On a full flight, this likely means you will have to gate check your carry-on bag (which is free)*.
  5. You will earn 50% EQMs per mile flown and 0.5 EQS per segment. You will earn full RDMs (based on fare flown) and EQDs.
  6. Changes are not permitted (worldwide from 01APR21).
  7. In IRROPS, Basic Economy customers will not be re-accommodated on other airlines, and will have to wait for the next American Airlines flight (or BA/IB/AY for INTL).

* exceptions apply for American Airlines elite-level frequent flyers as noted below.

Despite these restrictions, Basic Economy can be a good value in certain circumstances.

Are the seats or service any different?
Once you are on the airplane, the experience (seats / drinks / snacks) will be identical to regular Main Cabin.

How can I tell if I have a Basic Economy fare?
Your reservation on aa.com may say it. Basic Economy fares on American Airlines flights book into the B booking class, though Basic Economy fares on BA/IB/AY and their AA* codeshares can book into almost any revenue booking class.

I have an AA credit card, what does that get me?
Yes, if you have an American Airlines credit card that comes with preferred boarding or a free checked bag on domestic itineraries, you will receive those benefits. Additionally, if you have a Citi Executive card, you may use the Admirals Club as normal.

I have AA elite status, what does that get me?
You WILL get the following elite benefits when you buy a Basic Economy fare (note this is not an exhaustive list, basically everything not expressly forbidden is allowed):
  1. 1/2/3 checked bag fees waives, depending on status.
  2. Priority check-in / security / boarding.
  3. Lounge access, if applicable.
You WILL NOT receive the following elite benefits on a Basic Economy fare:
  1. No same-day standby or same-day confirmed flight changes, paid or otherwise.
Will I be seated with my child?
As it does today, American’s reservations system will check for families traveling with children 13 and under a few days before the flight, and attempt to seat each child with an adult. This is the same process we follow for Main Cabin customers.
Families with children over 13 will have to pay for seat assignments to be seated with their children.

I am flying on a British Airways, Iberia, or Finnair airplane, is anything different?
If you do not have AA or oneworld elite status, the restrictions are quite similar and you should expect to pay for everything: paid checked bags, paid seat selection, and no changes / cancellations. Depending on available fare classes, you may have an opportunity to earn additional redeemable miles or elite qualifying dollars by booking a BA / IB / AY flight number instead of an AA flight number; check your options and the partner earning charts on AA for each respective airline (British Airways, Iberia, Finnair).

If you have status, buckle up, because it gets technical, though there are some opportunities to cherry pick benefits and save money. This has been already summarized in the counterpart to this thread on the British Airways forum.​​, so we will not reproduce it here. Note the following correspondences between status levels:
  • AA Gold - BA Bronze - oneworld Ruby
  • AA Platinum or Platinum Pro - BA Silver - oneworld Sapphire
  • AA Executive Platinum or Concierge Key - BA Gold - oneworld Emerald
Generally, there seem to be the following opportunities for arbitrage:
  • If you are a Platinum, Platinum Pro, or Executive Platinum elite, you can generally book Iberia or Finnair-operated Basic Economy flights and not notice any baggage or seating restrictions, as long as they were not marketed by BA.
  • If you do not care about your seat assignment, you can book AA-operated flights with an IB or AY flight number and still receive a checked bag if you are Platinum or higher. You may earn more or fewer RDMs, EQMs, and EQDs.
  • If you do not need to check a bag, you can book BA-operated flights with any flight number, and can choose your seat (7 days in advance for Gold, at booking for Platinum and higher, Exit Rows for EXP).
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Old Sep 16, 2021, 4:52 pm
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I might book MIA-JFK-CDG on an Iberia marketed, AA operated flight. Can someone please confirm that I still receive 1 free checked bag as AA Gold? What about MIA-LHR AA operated, BA marketed?

(Sorry to post, but this is 2 years old and I could not find fresher info in the main thread either)

Thanks!

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Old Oct 3, 2021, 6:19 pm
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AA Exec Plat trying to use SWU's on Basic Economy fare

Just booked a flight for a party of four to Europe on a basic economy fare. AA was showing SWU availability as was expert flyer. Call in to apply / confirm SWU's with the exec plat line and eventually get someone. They argue with me multiple times that you absolutely cannot apply an SWU to a basic economy ticket (which has now been in policy since Oct 1 of last year). Puts me on hold forever then finally comes back and says yes it's ok but it says elite only and that she needs to check on whether or not it can apply to my companions?? Puts me on hold again for a long time comes back and tells me that she talked to her support desk and that I can only apply an SWU to me and that I can't do it for my companions?

Anyone else run into this? Seems very suspect as I don't see anything that says applying an SWU is ever limited to the elite member.. heck the whole point of SWU's is I can apply them to any ticket regardless of if I'm traveling...
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Old Oct 3, 2021, 6:35 pm
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I just had the same thing happen, but i wasn't on the itinerary at all (ExPlat). I searched and searched and can't find any reference to SWU's on Basic economy being only valid for the member...the SWU page doesn't make any fare restrictions clear either other than it has to be a published fare... which presumably basic economy are.

https://www.aa.com/i18n/aadvantage-p...e-upgrades.jsp
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Old Oct 3, 2021, 6:43 pm
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Case of hang up and call again.
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Old Oct 3, 2021, 6:49 pm
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Yeah that's what I'm guessing I got po'd and just cancelled the trip. Bad enough I had to argue with her for a while about a policy that's existed over a year and then dealing with that crap. She's all like I've worked here 30 years.. like yeah seems you've become complacent at your job and don't know what your company is doing.

Figures I DM'ed americanair on Twitter with the issue and they came back with
"We're sorry for the hold time. Elite members can upgrade a companion book in the same Basics Economy reservation as they are. Hope this helps"
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Old Oct 3, 2021, 7:12 pm
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Originally Posted by engineerfalde
Yeah that's what I'm guessing I got po'd and just cancelled the trip. Bad enough I had to argue with her for a while about a policy that's existed over a year and then dealing with that crap. She's all like I've worked here 30 years.. like yeah seems you've become complacent at your job and don't know what your company is doing.

Figures I DM'ed americanair on Twitter with the issue and they came back with
"We're sorry for the hold time. Elite members can upgrade a companion book in the same Basics Economy reservation as they are. Hope this helps"
I'm really confused. Your first post was less than one ago ago about a reservation you "just made." In that time you were told you cannot upgrade companions on your PNR, got fursttrated and cancelled and then contacted via twitter and was told you could (presumably had you not cancelled)? If all this is correct, I BELIEVE the twitter team can get the res back AND comply with their statement. But clearly I'm missing something here...
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Old Oct 3, 2021, 8:07 pm
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All of them got it wrong. You don’t need to be on the same reservation or even traveling at all, and as you noted SWUs can be used on published BE fares as of 10/1 last year. (Opaque fares are another story, BE or otherwise, but I’m assuming you booked direct.)
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Old Oct 3, 2021, 9:32 pm
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I was told the same story by 2 AA agents: i cannot apply a SWU on the BE ticket booked by my girlfriend.


i think the point below applies: SWU cannot be used on
“Fares ineligible for mileage credit (like award ticket)”, I think BE fares belong to that category.
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Old Oct 3, 2021, 9:50 pm
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Originally Posted by zip10001
I was told the same story by 2 AA agents: i cannot apply a SWU on the BE ticket booked by my girlfriend.


i think the point below applies: SWU cannot be used on
“Fares ineligible for mileage credit (like award ticket)”, I think BE fares belong to that category.
Are BE fares listed as ineligible? There is either a publish restriction or there isn't
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Old Oct 3, 2021, 10:06 pm
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If you apply a SWU to a reservation booked in B, when the travel posts to the account, do you get EQM, EQD, EQS etc?
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Old Oct 3, 2021, 11:14 pm
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Very frustrating, this page is very clear BE is “Eligible for upgrades…yes”: https://www.aa.com/i18n/travel-info/...ic-economy.jsp

Originally Posted by donotblink
If you apply a SWU to a reservation booked in B, when the travel posts to the account, do you get EQM, EQD, EQS etc?
Nope E.. was zeros at posting for me on a ticket a few months ago. I got a very small amount of RDM based on what I assume is the right BE multiplier.
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Old Oct 4, 2021, 7:37 am
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Another call with EXP line

Was told that BE tickets can only be upgraded using SWU when:
-the EXP is travelling with the companion on BE fare
or
-the companion has also elite status.
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Old Oct 4, 2021, 8:05 am
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I had a similar situation earlier this year and spent a lot of frustrating time on the phone with AA and no one would apply the SWU. I wrote in to customer care and they said I would have to call the EXP desk to get the answer, restarting the viscous circle -

I spoke with three different agents and received three answers that were a little different but all denied me.

Agent 1 - You can no longer upgrade basic economy tickets as of April 1st
Agent 2 - You can only upgrade people with elite status - Gold and above. If the person I was trying to upgrade would have been Gold, they would have processed the upgrade.
Agent 3 - You can only upgrade people who are travelling with you on a basic economy ticket regardless if they have status or not. This was apparently "Alan" the supervisor who also chastised me for being cheap, not paying the fare difference and trying to scheme AA . The person I'm trying to apply them for was actually willing to pay the fare difference to guarantee an upgrade but I wanted to get the correct story.

I also reached out to the twitter team and they echoed Agent 3 - I would have to be travelling and on the same reservation. I wish they could just update their website to reflect that BE tickets can be upgraded but only if the person who has the SWU is on the reservations.
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Old Oct 4, 2021, 8:30 am
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Originally Posted by longtimereader firstimeposter
"Alan" the supervisor who also chastised me for being cheap.
I would have 1. showed him the photo of that vegetarian snake home entree 2. ask for his sup's name
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Old Oct 4, 2021, 9:23 am
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Oh my, this just happened to me. Basic Economy booked for wife on Sept 8th, they didnt mention any issues at that time and said we were good to go. I call today and they say she is inelgible 36 hours before departure. We are in crisis mode, they want $1000 to move her fare to economy in addition to the $300 I already paid and then she might not even clear. Just tweeted at them but our honeymoon is a disaster right now!
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