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Old Jan 18, 2017, 9:12 pm
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What is Basic Economy?
Basic Economy is (generally) the lowest, "no-frills" Main Cabin (Economy) fare on American Airlines and their Atlantic Joint Business partners (British Airways, Iberia, and Finnair). Basic Economy fares on American Airlines book into the As the lowest fare, it has some special restrictions that other Main Cabin fares do not.

What are the Restrictions?
You can read American Airlines' web page summarizing Basic Economy for the exact details, but there are a few points that likely matter most to FlyerTalkers:
  1. Your first checked bag will cost money on a Basic Economy fare*.
  2. Your seat will be automatically assigned when you check in and unchangeable, unless you pay to change your seat. You may pay to reserve a seat any time after booking*.
  3. No elite upgrades to first class, or complimentary access to preferred seats (green on the seat map) or Main Cabin Extra (orange on the seat map)*.
  4. You will board last, in Group 9 for domestic flights or Group 8 for international flights*. On a full flight, this likely means you will have to gate check your carry-on bag (which is free)*.
  5. You will earn 50% EQMs per mile flown and 0.5 EQS per segment. You will earn full RDMs (based on fare flown) and EQDs.
  6. Changes are not permitted (worldwide from 01APR21).
  7. In IRROPS, Basic Economy customers will not be re-accommodated on other airlines, and will have to wait for the next American Airlines flight (or BA/IB/AY for INTL).

* exceptions apply for American Airlines elite-level frequent flyers as noted below.

Despite these restrictions, Basic Economy can be a good value in certain circumstances.

Are the seats or service any different?
Once you are on the airplane, the experience (seats / drinks / snacks) will be identical to regular Main Cabin.

How can I tell if I have a Basic Economy fare?
Your reservation on aa.com may say it. Basic Economy fares on American Airlines flights book into the B booking class, though Basic Economy fares on BA/IB/AY and their AA* codeshares can book into almost any revenue booking class.

I have an AA credit card, what does that get me?
Yes, if you have an American Airlines credit card that comes with preferred boarding or a free checked bag on domestic itineraries, you will receive those benefits. Additionally, if you have a Citi Executive card, you may use the Admirals Club as normal.

I have AA elite status, what does that get me?
You WILL get the following elite benefits when you buy a Basic Economy fare (note this is not an exhaustive list, basically everything not expressly forbidden is allowed):
  1. 1/2/3 checked bag fees waives, depending on status.
  2. Priority check-in / security / boarding.
  3. Lounge access, if applicable.
You WILL NOT receive the following elite benefits on a Basic Economy fare:
  1. No same-day standby or same-day confirmed flight changes, paid or otherwise.
Will I be seated with my child?
As it does today, American’s reservations system will check for families traveling with children 13 and under a few days before the flight, and attempt to seat each child with an adult. This is the same process we follow for Main Cabin customers.
Families with children over 13 will have to pay for seat assignments to be seated with their children.

I am flying on a British Airways, Iberia, or Finnair airplane, is anything different?
If you do not have AA or oneworld elite status, the restrictions are quite similar and you should expect to pay for everything: paid checked bags, paid seat selection, and no changes / cancellations. Depending on available fare classes, you may have an opportunity to earn additional redeemable miles or elite qualifying dollars by booking a BA / IB / AY flight number instead of an AA flight number; check your options and the partner earning charts on AA for each respective airline (British Airways, Iberia, Finnair).

If you have status, buckle up, because it gets technical, though there are some opportunities to cherry pick benefits and save money. This has been already summarized in the counterpart to this thread on the British Airways forum.​​, so we will not reproduce it here. Note the following correspondences between status levels:
  • AA Gold - BA Bronze - oneworld Ruby
  • AA Platinum or Platinum Pro - BA Silver - oneworld Sapphire
  • AA Executive Platinum or Concierge Key - BA Gold - oneworld Emerald
Generally, there seem to be the following opportunities for arbitrage:
  • If you are a Platinum, Platinum Pro, or Executive Platinum elite, you can generally book Iberia or Finnair-operated Basic Economy flights and not notice any baggage or seating restrictions, as long as they were not marketed by BA.
  • If you do not care about your seat assignment, you can book AA-operated flights with an IB or AY flight number and still receive a checked bag if you are Platinum or higher. You may earn more or fewer RDMs, EQMs, and EQDs.
  • If you do not need to check a bag, you can book BA-operated flights with any flight number, and can choose your seat (7 days in advance for Gold, at booking for Platinum and higher, Exit Rows for EXP).
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Old Apr 2, 2021, 1:56 pm
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You need to call BA to do it from memory.
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Old Apr 2, 2021, 2:01 pm
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Originally Posted by ChurnieEls
You need to call BA to do it from memory.
I called BA after calling AA. I was told AA has to do the seat assignment.
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Old Apr 2, 2021, 2:19 pm
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Called back, 2nd agent got me the seat assignments without being charged. Seat assignments are now showing on aa.com and ba.com, even though I still can't get to a seat map for the American legs.
Now, I just need the world to get better so we can actually take the trip.
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Old Apr 7, 2021, 6:04 am
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Just spoke to AA again and was told now for the 3rd time that my Basic Economy ticket will not give me any free checked bags tomorrow despite my Emerald status. I've asked for a new ticket receipt to be sent to be, so I'm waiting for that to see what it says about baggage allowance. I still do find it unlikely that Emerald status lets you choose elite seats, but doesn't give any free bags for transatlantic BE tickets. But I'll find out for sure tomorrow when I check my bag!
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Old Apr 7, 2021, 12:42 pm
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Bumping this to see if anyone has any ideas here. We are well past ticketing, so that shouldn't be an issue, but I still do not get an option to select seats for the AA portions of the trip from aa.com. AA.com displays my AA (but not my BA) seat assignments, but they are not clickable, nor is there the normal Select Seats link in the icon row above the flights. If I manage the reservation on the BA side, it shows me seat assignments for both the AA and BA legs, but clicking manage the seat assignments tales me back to aa.com and the same dead end.
Does anyone know if this is an issue with all tickets booked through BA? Is this a basic economy issue? Could it be because AA wouldn't offer me any All other reservation links (add secure flight, etc...) are there, just not the seat assignments. I believe I am all set in the case, but want to make sure I know what to expect for future bookings.
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Old Apr 7, 2021, 2:29 pm
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Just guessing, could totally be wrong, but sometimes, because AA and BA use different systems, they generate "ghost" PNRs in addition to the real PNRs. Instead of using the PNR that you click through to take you to AA.com, have you called BA to see if you can get the AA PNR? I know that in the past when I've booked with AA, and tried to get seat assignments on BA, I sometimes but not always had to use a different PNR than the one AA.com directed me to.
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Old Apr 8, 2021, 8:19 am
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Originally Posted by wrp96
Just guessing, could totally be wrong, but sometimes, because AA and BA use different systems, they generate "ghost" PNRs in addition to the real PNRs. Instead of using the PNR that you click through to take you to AA.com, have you called BA to see if you can get the AA PNR? I know that in the past when I've booked with AA, and tried to get seat assignments on BA, I sometimes but not always had to use a different PNR than the one AA.com directed me to.
I have both record locators, and on both aa.com and ba.com, the reservation now shows both companies' record locators. I used the AA RL that BA provided me when I called AA to get my family's DFW-LHR seat assignments. I don't know if I have stumbled onto a weird edge case, and I definitely am ok with living with these limitations on this booking - we saved over $800 a ticket booking via BA instead of AA on the same itinerary. I just want to understand what happened and if this is what I should expect going forward any time I book with a partner an itinerary that has AA legs, whether this is a Basic Economy quirk (and my AA Advantage number is on the reservation, not my BA Avios number), or something else. Something is off and I'd love to know if I just fell through the cracks or if this is working the way both airlines intended things to.
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Old Apr 9, 2021, 1:03 pm
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Originally Posted by JJeffrey
Your first mistake is calling AA reservations and asking a detailed baggage allowance question, they will have no clue and are not trained on this, you could call 10 times and get 10 different answers.

Just go by your best guess from aa.com, which as a oneworld Sapphire will be 2 complimentary checked bags to Europe regardless of whether you're in normal economy or basic economy.
Just to report back, you were right, despite 4 phone reps telling me that I would get no free checked bags on my BE ticket, I was able to check 2 bags free without any issues.

It is unacceptable that all customer service reps are giving out wrong information to customers.
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Old Apr 9, 2021, 2:13 pm
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Originally Posted by srodr

It is unacceptable that all customer service reps are giving out wrong information to customers.
That a few may have given out incorrect information, does not mean that all do
The information was incorrect, but at least it was not information that was wrong that led to making a purchase based on it and incurring unexpected other costs
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Old Apr 12, 2021, 8:27 am
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In case anyone cares, this is a definite thing. Price dropped on my route from $3300 for four people to $2500 on BA (still $6000 on AA). Cancelled flight, got a BA eVoucher and purchased new seats and have two years to use the balance. Same issue selecting seats, and same initial ask for money from a CSR to book seats. When I said I could not select them online, I was able to get them without charge.
I pinged AA's social media team who:
  1. Confirmed I should be able to pick whatever main cabin seats I wanted
  2. Had no explanation why I couldn't
  3. Claimed fees applied to all passengers booking via any channel except AA
  4. But that my fees were waived because no self-service option was available
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Old Apr 22, 2021, 5:48 pm
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Originally Posted by lowfareair
Hi all,

Looking at a ticket this summer for my partner and I. I'm elite and would like to earn EQMs, he literally could not care less. If I book Basic Economy for him and Main Cabin for I, I'm assuming it would need to be under 2 different confirmations. Are the agents able to tie the reservations together in a way so that he can use my benefits (we can select seats together, each check a bag, etc.) as if we are both booked on one confirmation number?

It would actually earn AA more money as I'm booking BE if it's not possible (not worth the difference x2 to get the EQMs).
I have the same question. My case is an international flight, my question is specifically regarding seat selection (MCE).

Did you ever get an answer or test this?
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Old Apr 23, 2021, 2:37 am
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Originally Posted by Aero137
I have the same question. My case is an international flight, my question is specifically regarding seat selection (MCE).

Did you ever get an answer or test this?
If he is not on the same PNR, he isn't getting MCE
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Old Jun 5, 2021, 10:27 am
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Edited wiki to reflect that voluntary changes are no longer permitted to any Basic Economy tickets, worldwide.
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Old Jun 10, 2021, 11:20 pm
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AA rolling out Basic Economy Again to Many Routes

I'm beginning to see AA roll basic economy back out to many routes after having stopped selling basic economy on many routes sometime last year.

The potential silver lining here is that the fares I was seeing a few days ago on the routes I'm looking at have the same price for main cabin, and a new lower price for basic economy.
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Old Jun 10, 2021, 11:34 pm
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Wanted to provide some sample data on the return pricing I'm seeing

Looks like Basic Economy might be limited to travel on Tuesdays and Wednesdays based on some limited searching that I have done. Looks like the upcharge is $40 one way for the most part, but was $29 in some instances.

JFK -> HNL one way March 15: Basic: $472 Regular Y: $512 Upcharge: $40
EWR -> EGE one way March 15: Basic: $189 Regular Y: $229 Upcharge: $40
EWR -> ORD One Way March 15: Basic $76 Regular Y: $116 Upcharge: $40
EWR -> MIA One Way March 15: Basic $89 Regular Y: $118 Upcharge: $29
JFK -> CUN one way March 15: Basic: $154 Regular Y: $194 Upcharge: $40


I did not observe basic economy in competitive transcon markets JFK->SFO/LAX, I also didn't see any on NYC/DFW which is surprising, with regular Y fares at $59
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