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Old Jan 18, 2017, 9:12 pm
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What is Basic Economy?
Basic Economy is (generally) the lowest, "no-frills" Main Cabin (Economy) fare on American Airlines and their Atlantic Joint Business partners (British Airways, Iberia, and Finnair). Basic Economy fares on American Airlines book into the As the lowest fare, it has some special restrictions that other Main Cabin fares do not.

What are the Restrictions?
You can read American Airlines' web page summarizing Basic Economy for the exact details, but there are a few points that likely matter most to FlyerTalkers:
  1. Your first checked bag will cost money on a Basic Economy fare*.
  2. Your seat will be automatically assigned when you check in and unchangeable, unless you pay to change your seat. You may pay to reserve a seat any time after booking*.
  3. No elite upgrades to first class, or complimentary access to preferred seats (green on the seat map) or Main Cabin Extra (orange on the seat map)*.
  4. You will board last, in Group 9 for domestic flights or Group 8 for international flights*. On a full flight, this likely means you will have to gate check your carry-on bag (which is free)*.
  5. You will earn 50% EQMs per mile flown and 0.5 EQS per segment. You will earn full RDMs (based on fare flown) and EQDs.
  6. Changes are not permitted (worldwide from 01APR21).
  7. In IRROPS, Basic Economy customers will not be re-accommodated on other airlines, and will have to wait for the next American Airlines flight (or BA/IB/AY for INTL).

* exceptions apply for American Airlines elite-level frequent flyers as noted below.

Despite these restrictions, Basic Economy can be a good value in certain circumstances.

Are the seats or service any different?
Once you are on the airplane, the experience (seats / drinks / snacks) will be identical to regular Main Cabin.

How can I tell if I have a Basic Economy fare?
Your reservation on aa.com may say it. Basic Economy fares on American Airlines flights book into the B booking class, though Basic Economy fares on BA/IB/AY and their AA* codeshares can book into almost any revenue booking class.

I have an AA credit card, what does that get me?
Yes, if you have an American Airlines credit card that comes with preferred boarding or a free checked bag on domestic itineraries, you will receive those benefits. Additionally, if you have a Citi Executive card, you may use the Admirals Club as normal.

I have AA elite status, what does that get me?
You WILL get the following elite benefits when you buy a Basic Economy fare (note this is not an exhaustive list, basically everything not expressly forbidden is allowed):
  1. 1/2/3 checked bag fees waives, depending on status.
  2. Priority check-in / security / boarding.
  3. Lounge access, if applicable.
You WILL NOT receive the following elite benefits on a Basic Economy fare:
  1. No same-day standby or same-day confirmed flight changes, paid or otherwise.
Will I be seated with my child?
As it does today, American’s reservations system will check for families traveling with children 13 and under a few days before the flight, and attempt to seat each child with an adult. This is the same process we follow for Main Cabin customers.
Families with children over 13 will have to pay for seat assignments to be seated with their children.

I am flying on a British Airways, Iberia, or Finnair airplane, is anything different?
If you do not have AA or oneworld elite status, the restrictions are quite similar and you should expect to pay for everything: paid checked bags, paid seat selection, and no changes / cancellations. Depending on available fare classes, you may have an opportunity to earn additional redeemable miles or elite qualifying dollars by booking a BA / IB / AY flight number instead of an AA flight number; check your options and the partner earning charts on AA for each respective airline (British Airways, Iberia, Finnair).

If you have status, buckle up, because it gets technical, though there are some opportunities to cherry pick benefits and save money. This has been already summarized in the counterpart to this thread on the British Airways forum.​​, so we will not reproduce it here. Note the following correspondences between status levels:
  • AA Gold - BA Bronze - oneworld Ruby
  • AA Platinum or Platinum Pro - BA Silver - oneworld Sapphire
  • AA Executive Platinum or Concierge Key - BA Gold - oneworld Emerald
Generally, there seem to be the following opportunities for arbitrage:
  • If you are a Platinum, Platinum Pro, or Executive Platinum elite, you can generally book Iberia or Finnair-operated Basic Economy flights and not notice any baggage or seating restrictions, as long as they were not marketed by BA.
  • If you do not care about your seat assignment, you can book AA-operated flights with an IB or AY flight number and still receive a checked bag if you are Platinum or higher. You may earn more or fewer RDMs, EQMs, and EQDs.
  • If you do not need to check a bag, you can book BA-operated flights with any flight number, and can choose your seat (7 days in advance for Gold, at booking for Platinum and higher, Exit Rows for EXP).
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Old Jun 13, 2022, 8:48 am
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Basic Economy- Paid Upgrades

Wondering if anyone has any experience with paying for an upgrade from Basic Economy flights? Flight is CMH --> DFW --> CUN on July 3rd. Currently ALL seats are open for both flights. Called AA, but they have a 2 hour hold. The cost difference is about $200, but this is super odd as when I booked the flight about 15 days ago all that was available was economy.

EDIT: The answer is sometimes... The helpdesk has to give authorization and you would have to pay the fare difference.

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Old Jun 13, 2022, 12:32 pm
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Originally Posted by Andasibe
Wondering if anyone has any experience with paying for an upgrade from Basic Economy flights? Flight is CMH --> DFW --> CUN on July 3rd. Currently ALL seats are open for both flights. Called AA, but they have a 2 hour hold. The cost difference is about $200, but this is super odd as when I booked the flight about 15 days ago all that was available was economy.

EDIT: The answer is sometimes... The helpdesk has to give authorization and you would have to pay the fare difference.
I've been firmly told no the couple of times I tried to upfare BE tickets.
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Old Jun 13, 2022, 1:56 pm
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Originally Posted by longtimereader firstimeposter
I've been firmly told no the couple of times I tried to upfare BE tickets.
This may be dependent on your status level with AA.
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Old Jun 13, 2022, 2:26 pm
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https://www.aa.com/i18n/travel-info/...ic-economy.jsp

No changes permitted for any level of member. But....I guess it depends if AA views it as a flight change as opposed to an upfare. Alternatively, you can simply cancel it and use the flight credit towards the new ticket in higher class of service. That would effectively be the same as upfaring.
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Old Jun 13, 2022, 2:34 pm
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Originally Posted by PHL
https://www.aa.com/i18n/travel-info/...ic-economy.jsp

No changes permitted for any level of member. But....I guess it depends if AA views it as a flight change as opposed to an upfare. Alternatively, you can simply cancel it and use the flight credit towards the new ticket in higher class of service. That would effectively be the same as upfaring.
There is no flight credit if you cancel a basic economy ticket. Use it or lose it.

The lack of flexibility is the only real difference between BE and Main Cabin. AA gives full status benefits to BE pax (I believe that they are the only airline to do so).
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Old Jun 13, 2022, 2:57 pm
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Elites can upgrade but not sure if upfaring is available:

https://www.aa.com/i18n/travel-info/...ic-economy.jsp
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Old Jun 13, 2022, 3:12 pm
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Originally Posted by IADCAflyer
Elites can upgrade but not sure if upfaring is available:

https://www.aa.com/i18n/travel-info/...ic-economy.jsp
Upfaring is not supposed to be available. But there have been reports of exceptions made for elites. Obviously this is not an official policy.

When you upgrade, it's still a basic economy ticket. I have a "basic economy" business class trip to ICN coming up. I used SWUs but all the basic economy restrictions still apply to the ticket.
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Old Jul 13, 2022, 7:53 am
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OWS Baggage Allowance on Basic Economy

Sorry if this question has been done to death, but a search didn't yield my exact situation.

I am flying YYZ-BOS-LHR all on AA, then LHR-ORD on BA and ORD-YYZ on AA in Basic Economy. The ticket was sold by AA and I have BA Silver/OneWorld Sapphire. The AA website is a bit confusing regarding baggage allowance for OWS on Basic Economy fares. In some places it says 2 checked bags are allowed, and in others it just says the restriction on baggage is not applied to AAdvantage members but doesn't mention Sapphires. In MMB it says baggage is not included (maybe that is just the asnwer!). I am travelling with a 3 year old so it's very important that I am clear on how much we can take on the plane.
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Old Jul 13, 2022, 7:56 am
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What does your ticket receipt say?
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Old Jul 13, 2022, 8:06 am
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should be on your receipt. But OWS don’t get any additional ow bag benefits. Last I. Heckef these basic economy fares do not include bags and no additional free bag for a OWS. Call ur operating airline

Originally Posted by Ziz
Sorry if this question has been done to death, but a search didn't yield my exact situation.

I am flying YYZ-BOS-LHR all on AA, then LHR-ORD on BA and ORD-YYZ on AA in Basic Economy. The ticket was sold by AA and I have BA Silver/OneWorld Sapphire. The AA website is a bit confusing regarding baggage allowance for OWS on Basic Economy fares. In some places it says 2 checked bags are allowed, and in others it just says the restriction on baggage is not applied to AAdvantage members but doesn't mention Sapphires. In MMB it says baggage is not included (maybe that is just the asnwer!). I am travelling with a 3 year old so it's very important that I am clear on how
much we can take on the plane.
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Old Jul 13, 2022, 8:11 am
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From the oneworld website, there is no carveout for AA BE fares. So you should get an extra bag (which would be just one bag total, since the allowance is 0). I'm not sure if AA offers more but I don't see it on their website anywhere.

However there is a carveout for BA HBO/Basic fares. Since BA is your first operating carrier on your return, you will have to follow their policies. So make sure that you check their policy as well, or you may have trouble bringing everything back.

Sorry I don't have more info, but the main point here is to check BA policies as well as AA policies.

I think you get 1 bag on the way there and none on the way back. But I could be wrong

***Extra baggage allowance for Sapphire frequent flyers

As a Sapphire frequent flyer, the following special checked baggage privileges will apply when you fly on oneworld airlines:
  • On international or domestic itineraries using the baggage allowance "weight" system - 15 kgs in addition to the ticketed Economy Class baggage allowance.
  • On international itineraries, that include domestic sectors, using the baggage allowance “piece” system – one additional bag*, weighing up to 23kgs, up to a maximum of two pieces.
  • On purely domestic itineraries, using the baggage allowance "piece" system, for tickets with no ticketed baggage entitlement - the assurance of one piece of checked baggage, weighing up to 23 kgs.
Customers travelling in First and Business Class cabins will, in most cases, receive an even greater free checked baggage allowance.

Note: This benefit is not available on British Airways’ 'Hand Baggage Only/Basic' fares.

*In accordance with the individual policy of the oneworld airline operating the flight. **Priority baggage handling is not currently available on flights operated by British Airways.

Exceptions may apply.
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Old Jul 13, 2022, 10:04 am
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Originally Posted by Ziz
Sorry if this question has been done to death, but a search didn't yield my exact situation.

I am flying YYZ-BOS-LHR all on AA, then LHR-ORD on BA and ORD-YYZ on AA in Basic Economy. The ticket was sold by AA and I have BA Silver/OneWorld Sapphire. The AA website is a bit confusing regarding baggage allowance for OWS on Basic Economy fares. In some places it says 2 checked bags are allowed, and in others it just says the restriction on baggage is not applied to AAdvantage members but doesn't mention Sapphires. In MMB it says baggage is not included (maybe that is just the asnwer!). I am travelling with a 3 year old so it's very important that I am clear on how much we can take on the plane.
Is LHR-ORD on a BA flight# or AA flight#?
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Old Jul 13, 2022, 11:27 am
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It is BA. Everything else is on AA metal.
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Old Jul 13, 2022, 11:30 am
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Thanks everyone, my ticket receipt says 0 bags but it was booked by a corporate travel agent who did not have my FF number at the time of booking. This is why I am unsure whether I do have 0 bags or 1 because of OWS because the OneWorld website doesn't say that basic fares are exempt from the extra baggage allowance. Even the answers on this thread differ so I'm glad I'm not the only one unsure. I will give AA a call for clarification.
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Old Jul 13, 2022, 11:38 am
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Originally Posted by Ziz
It is BA. Everything else is on AA metal.
So on your ticket, your BA-operated flight has a BA flight number, and not an AA (codeshare) flight number?
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