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HELP DESK: Earning Elite Qualifying EQD, EQM & Award / RDM AA, Partners

HELP DESK: Earning Elite Qualifying EQD, EQM & Award / RDM AA, Partners

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[This thread is dedicated to questions, discussion, and answers, requests for calculation verification, assistance, input, etc. about earning
  • Elite Qualifying Miles (EQM) for travel as of 1 Jan 2016

  • Award / Redeemable Miles (RDM) for travel as of 1 Aug 2016

  • Elite Qualifying Dollars (EQD) fof travel as of 1 Jan 2017
See the relevant threads in the Wikipost for basic and specific information relating to these topics.

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Relevant threads:

GUIDE: Earning EQD / Elite Qualifying Dollars on AA and partner airlines (2017 on)

GUIDE: Earning AA Elite Qualifying Miles / EQM on AA, oneworld, partner airlines 2017

GUIDE: Earning AA Award / Redeemable Miles / RDM on AA, partners 1 Aug 2016

JUST THE FACTS: EQD, status tier, other changes announced 6 Jun 2016 ("Just the facts" Q&A, discussion, of new changes)

Link to AAdvantage spreadsheet /spreadsheets & apps available for download


Can I See / Estimate EQD / EQM / RDM After Booking, Before Flying?

No. You can see your estimated EQD - EQM - RDM earnings for AA marketed flights once you have selected flights on AA.com before you book, and you can see all your actual earnings once you have flown and the flights have posted to your AAdvantage account.

If you use a tool to break down your trip so you can see your base fare and carrier imposed fees you can calculate your estimated EQD (for those flights earning EQD using that method, AA marketed flights). For estimated EQM and RDM you can calculate based on flown miles, fare class credit, etc.

For further information, see aa.com:

AAdvantage® earning estimates - FAQ
(aa.com "AAdvantage program updates" - link

Q. Will I be able to view my expected earnings for travel on flights marketed by American and by other airlines online?

A. You will be able to view your expected earnings for travel on flights marketed by American Airlines. Trips including flights marketed by other airlines will not display your expected earnings at this time.

Q. Where can I see how many award miles and Elite Qualifying Credits I can expect to earn for my trip on aa.com?

A. This information is displayed on aa.com after you’ve selected your flights, just prior to purchasing your reservation, on the Review and Pay page.

Q. Will promotional bonuses from special offers be included in the AAdvantage® earnings displayed?

A. No, promotional bonuses will only be displayed when your flight is posted to your account.

Q. Do I need to include my AAdvantage® number in order to view my expected earnings?

A. Yes, you will need to include your AAdvantage® number at the time of booking to view your expected earnings.

Q. Can I retrieve my expected earnings after I’ve purchased my trip online or for reservations booked elsewhere that can be viewed online?

A. No, you will only be able to view your expected earnings prior to purchasing your ticket on the Review and Pay page online.

Q. Why are the earnings shown referred to as estimates and expected earnings?

A. Award miles and Elite Qualifying Credits shown could differ from what you actually earn if you change your ticket, your elite status level changes or due to currency fluctuations for purchases not made in USD.

FT: Q. What are the rules governing earning AAdvantage miles etc. on codeshares?

1. AA codeshares earn as if you were flying AA, regardless of which airline operates them.

2. oneworld airline codeshares operated by oneworld airlines earn according to the marketing airline (airline whose flight is being flown, e.g. CX operated by JL earns as CX. oneworld marketed flights (codeshares) operated by non-oneworld airlines, e.g. EI operated by BA, do not earn AAdvantage miles. Other airline-marketed flights operated by AA earn as if you were flying the marketing airline.

3. Exceptions include Qantas/ QF codeshares operated by non-oneworld airlines, e.g. EY, FJ, etc.; many JL flights operated by non-oneworld airlines and some AY flights operated by non-oneworld airlines do earn AAdvantage miles.

4. Where you buy your tickets is irrelevant.

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Old Dec 30, 15, 10:58 am
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HELP DESK: Earning Elite Qualifying EQD, EQM & Award / RDM AA, Partners

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  • Elite Qualifying Miles (EQM) for travel as of 1 Jan 2016

  • Award / Redeemable Miles (RDM) for travel as of 1 Aug 2016

  • Elite Qualifying Dollars (EQD) fof travel as of 1 Jan 2017
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Some examples

Example using AS / Alaska Airlines, P class:
OAK-KOA (2,380 miles distance)
EQM: 3,570
EQS: 1 EQD: 714
BASE AWD.: 2,380
BONUS AWD: 4,046
TOTAL AWARD MILES: 6,426

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Old Jul 12, 16, 11:43 am
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LAS-YYZ [earning miles on AA vs. WS]

Still a noob, trying to make the most of my Platinum Elite status and retain it for next year. I had to pay $1199 for the boost this year to retain.

Planning to trip to YYZ to visit wifey's grandparents next month 8/4-8/7. The only nonstop I saw after wifey finishes work on 8/4 was at 11:25p arriving YYZ at 6:45am. On the return, it would depart at 9:50am nonstop back to LAS.

The question I have is that on AA this far is roughly $1k fare class G, versus on WS it's about $800. I'm not sure if I will earn Elite miles etc if I fly WS instead of AA, or if WS will honor my Platinum status or if I'll be able to choose my seats ahead of time since it's operated by WS.
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Old Jul 12, 16, 2:17 pm
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From what I understand, WestJet flights may only earn RDMs at best...no status recognition and useless if you're trying to earn elite miles. I'd not even consider it.
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Old Jul 12, 16, 2:32 pm
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You earn a minimum of 500 miles on WS (I did from YYZ-YOW in June), and no bonus miles for status. I did YVR-YYZ-YOW last month for a total of 2,585 miles with zero bonus.

The only status recognition you'll get with WS is advance seat selection and priority boarding.

Sadly, except for their crummy "Plus" seating (and boy is it crummy), even advance seat selection on WS doesn't get you much to write home about.

I avoid WS unless it's an absolute necessity due to scheduling. When WS decides to wise up and offer a proper business seat maybe I'll consider using them more... (none of their 737's have it - they have the 3-3 with the middle seat unoccupied... apparently their longer vacation-bound 767's have a 2-2 Plus seat, but I've never seen one in person)

Avoid whenever possible.
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Old Jul 12, 16, 2:54 pm
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Still a noob, trying to make the most of my Platinum Elite status and retain it for next year. I had to pay $1199 for the boost this year to retain.

Planning to trip to YYZ to visit wifey's grandparents next month 8/4-8/7. The only nonstop I saw after wifey finishes work on 8/4 was at 11:25p arriving YYZ at 6:45am. On the return, it would depart at 9:50am nonstop back to LAS.

The question I have is that on AA this far is roughly $1k fare class G, versus on WS it's about $800. I'm not sure if I will earn Elite miles etc if I fly WS instead of AA, or if WS will honor my Platinum status or if I'll be able to choose my seats ahead of time since it's operated by WS.
The info you need is here: https://www.aa.com/i18n/travel-info/...es/westjet.jsp

If you fly a Westjet operated flight booked with an AA flight number, you will earn elite qualifying miles.

If you book it under a Westjet flight number, you will not earn elite qualifying miles.
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Old Jul 13, 16, 10:03 am
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I was unable to get a pre-reserved seat. I am Platinum on AA and flying on WestJet (on an AA flight number)
How/where did you end up obtaining a seat prior?

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Old Jul 22, 16, 11:06 pm
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Would CX in Premium Economy JFK-HKG-SYD be the most efficient EQM/EQD combo?

So it looks like my company has a corporate rate of $2000 roundtrip on CX in Premium Economy (E class), for JFK-HKG-SYD that I am allowed to purchase for personal travel (obviously on my dime).

Would this routing be one of the most efficient in terms of running up EQDs while also getting a good chunk of EQMs?

It seems like this routing has a total distance of 25,000 miles, so that would be 38,000 EQMs and 5000 of EQD? (I'm rounding here).

So with this, then I'd only need to spend $1000 to fly 12K more EQMs to requalify for Platinum? It almost seems like this is too easy?

It seems like I can basically short circuit the EQD reqs by doing this? I only care about getting to Platinum for the OWS lounge access privilege.

I have relatives in HKG, so I'd just build in a stopover there and then hop down and back to Sydney quickly after visiting them. My Corp rate is almost the same whether I go to HKG or SYD.
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Old Jul 23, 16, 12:06 am
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The calculations look right
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Old Jul 23, 16, 1:42 am
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Basically, yes. You'd earn a bit over 38k EQM, 50k RDM and 5k EQD. Discounted Premium Economy for long-distance flights on partners definitely is the new sweet spot under the new rules.
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Old Jul 23, 16, 8:49 am
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CX PEY JNB-HKG-JFK roundtrip @ $1700 USD

translates to 44139 EQM 58852 RDM (if PLT/EXP) and 5885 EQD <--- (98% of EQD requirement!!)

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Old Jul 23, 16, 9:53 am
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Haha nice find - how long until AA pits the kibosh on this one? I'll give them another month. Unfortunately I don't think you can upgrade "E" fares to business on CX though (in case you have a way to get some asiamiles - that would be the ultimate - accrue all the EQD/EQM on AA plus upgrade!).
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Old Jul 23, 16, 10:56 am
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Haha nice find - how long until AA pits the kibosh on this one? I'll give them another month. Unfortunately I don't think you can upgrade "E" fares to business on CX though (in case you have a way to get some asiamiles - that would be the ultimate - accrue all the EQD/EQM on AA plus upgrade!).
CX PE has always been a good, cheap way to earn status. There have been numerous discussions covering it before the addition EQD.
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Old Jul 23, 16, 10:57 am
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HELP DESK: EQM / Award - RDM Calculations / Planning as of 1 Aug 2016 (EQD > 1/1/17)

We may merge a few existing questions about potential EQM - RDM - EQD earnings involving requests for verification or checking calculations into this thread in the popular "HELP DESK" format, as we expect a substantial increase in these requests for review with the August 1 RDM earning changes and 1/1/2017 EQD requirements for earning status.

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Old Jul 23, 16, 12:13 pm
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CX PEY JNB-HKG-JFK roundtrip @ $1700 USD

translates to 44139 EQM 58852 RDM (if PLT/EXP) and 5885 EQD <--- (98% of EQD requirement!!)

That is borderline masochistic mileage run territory (even in PEY)..27+ hours in the air each way.

Though I might just do it
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Old Jul 23, 16, 1:29 pm
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CX PE has always been a good, cheap way to earn status. There have been numerous discussions covering it before the addition EQD.
But CX PE isn't really that comfortable, alas...
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