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ARCHIVE: New Flagship Lounge and Premium Lounge Coming to DFW Terminal D
Flagship Dining fully opened 3 Nov 2015 - hrs. 08:30 -
premium lounge still tba


The current thread is: DFW Flagship Dining (open Oct 2015)
This thread is the archived file for discussion, including speculation, about the possible addition of a new Flagship Lounge and Premium Lounge at Dallas-Ft. Worth International. Terminal D, including the interim Flagship Dining.

NOTE: The previously designated smoking room in the Terminal D Admirals Club has been closed and refurbished as the interim Flagship Dining facility, 3 Nov 2015 specifically for dining (soft opening was 27 Oct). Wine, Champagne and beer are served; for other beverages, the Admirals Club bar will be used (chits are issued). (The Admirals Club itself will continue to serve as the lounge until the new premium lounge opens.)

From aa.com:

Flagship® Dining coming soon to DFW

Commencing November 3, select international passengers can enjoy exclusive access to Flagship® Dining, our premium dining experience inside our Terminal D Admirals Club® location at DFW.

Invited guests include passengers on eligible international itineraries (traveling to/from Europe, Asia, Central and South America and Mexico City*) who are either:
  • Traveling in First Class on American Airlines or oneworld® marketed and operated flights, or
  • AAdvantage® Executive Platinum or oneworld® Emerald members traveling in any cabin**
NOTES: Admission rules are standard Flagship Lounge rules (see above). Boarding passes will be stamped at the entrance desk to demonstrate admission qualification and/or invitation cards issued.

*For the purpose of Flagship Lounge access, eligible international cities include flights traveling to or from Europe, Asia, Central and South America and Mexico City (and South Pacific, e.g. AKL, SYD) only.

**American Airlines AAdvantage Executive Platinum/Emerald customers traveling on solely North American itineraries do not qualify for Flagship Lounge access. North America is defined as U.S. (including Hawaii and Alaska), Canada, Mexico (except Mexico City), Bermuda, the Bahamas and the Caribbean

Customers traveling on airline industry non-revenue tickets are not eligible for access.
See Gary Leff's take on the "FLD", the old DFW Flagship Lounge, etc. here.

For discussion about the lack of a Flagship Lounge at DFW, see Why is there no Flagship Lounge / FL at DFW? (consolidated)

Background: The DFW international terminal was previously Terminal A. The A Admirals Club offered both an Arrivals Lounge and a Flagship Lounge. These were closed after 11 September 2001; when the decision to make terminal D the c new in terminal, AA chose to build an expanded Admirals Club and omit both Flagship and Arrivals lounges. There is an AMEX Centurion lounge, and there are The Lounge at DFW and several contract lounges serving several airlines' passengers.

At DFW-A, the old Flagship Lounge still exists and is used for an occasional function or NR passenger; the old Arrivals Lounge is still there, and though no longer in service it's showers -arguably the most spacious and luxurious in the AA system - and small gym remain for knowing passenger's or member's use. Look for these facilities on your immediate left (FL) and right (AL) as you exit the elevators on the second (Club) floor.
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Old Sep 11, 2018, 12:29 pm
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New Cathay Pacific First JFK arrival data point.

Was denied FFD this morning at JFK. Arrived YVR-JFK in Cathay First, then separate paid J to LHR on AA. Dragon kept making up excuses when I wasn't buying it. The whopper of the day was "you only get one lounge and since you used the Cathay Lounge in Vancouver, you can't use FFD here". I finally gave up and just hit the showers in the FL.
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Old Sep 16, 2018, 4:47 am
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Here's one. Flying JFK-(AA)-xBOS-(CX)-HKG on AA and CX First.

I get access to Flagship 'cause Emerald.

My query is would I have access to FFD at JFK by way of the CX First BOS to HKG?
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Old Sep 16, 2018, 6:27 am
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Originally Posted by serfty
Here's one. Flying JFK-(AA)-xBOS-(CX)-HKG on AA and CX First.
I get access to Flagship 'cause Emerald.
My query is would I have access to FFD at JFK by way of the CX First BOS to HKG?
That's an interesting question. I would say technically yes but it's more likely to be at the discretion of the dragon and her interpretation of the CX/AA deal and rules. Hopefully, you don't get the same one that I encountered. If the dragon nearest the FL says no, I would ask her to check with one of her other colleagues at the entrance which is what I should have done last week.
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Old Sep 16, 2018, 11:56 am
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Originally Posted by Gino Troian
LOL you're spot on. I was the only patron from 8-10PM. Wild. IDK why the hell they put in a FFD lounge at MIA when there are only 2-4 flights with F per day (GRU, EZE, LHR) (if you don't include the two BA flights).
This probably doesn't contribute a huge number to the daily total, but keep in mind that anyone arriving in F and connecting also has access, as well as anyone originating in MIA and connecting to F at another hub.
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Old Sep 22, 2018, 11:03 am
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Here's an interesting scenario (asking for a friend).
Same-day transcon itin: LAX-JFK (J) and JFK-LAX (F).
Would FFD access be granted at LAX prior to the first flight based on the same-day F return?
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Old Sep 22, 2018, 12:13 pm
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Originally Posted by pmblinn
Here's an interesting scenario (asking for a friend).
Same-day transcon itin: LAX-JFK (J) and JFK-LAX (F).
Would FFD access be granted at LAX prior to the first flight based on the same-day F return?
I don't see why not. Easy if it is the same ticket. Just need to show the return at check-in if it is two tickets.
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Old Sep 22, 2018, 3:04 pm
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I don't see why not. Easy if it is the same ticket. Just need to show the return at check-in if it is two tickets.
Thanks. Will give it a shot and report back.
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Old Oct 6, 2018, 9:37 am
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Dining access in MIA?

Have an upcoming itinerary that is MIA-JFK-LAX, with the MIA-JFK flight in two-class F and the JFK-LAX flight in 3-class F. My question is whether I'll be allowed FD access in MIA before my flight to JFK. From the rules I've read online, it sounds like I have access since I have a same-day flight in 3-class transcon F. However, I've had trouble getting access to lounges in cities outside of JFK/LAX with a J/F-class transcon ticket before.

Anyone done this before? Should I expect any grief in MIA, and if so, what should I do?
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Old Oct 6, 2018, 1:03 pm
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I failed with the same itinerary, although the MIA-JFK leg was in Y on a separate PNR. The manager at MIA was quite unsympathetic. AA’s Twitter team later responded that the separate PNR was the problem, but I think MIA would have refused admission regardless. It was around 2 pm, when the lounge opened, and I would probably have been the only guest. That was almost a year ago, so things could have changed.

Let us know how it goes!
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Old Oct 6, 2018, 2:49 pm
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Originally Posted by Explore
I failed with the same itinerary, although the MIA-JFK leg was in Y on a separate PNR. The manager at MIA was quite unsympathetic. AA’s Twitter team later responded that the separate PNR was the problem, but I think MIA would have refused admission regardless. It was around 2 pm, when the lounge opened, and I would probably have been the only guest. That was almost a year ago, so things could have changed.

Let us know how it goes!
The logic by them fails. If you had access to the Flagship Lounge simply due to the subsequent connection on to 3 class F flight, then by extension, one should also have access the FFD. Just my two cents...
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Old Oct 6, 2018, 7:22 pm
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Originally Posted by teemuflyer
The logic by them fails. If you had access to the Flagship Lounge simply due to the subsequent connection on to 3 class F flight, then by extension, one should also have access the FFD. Just my two cents...
I was granted access to the MIA Flagship Lounge, but not FFD. Was told I qualified for FFD only out of the airport preceding the 3-class F flight.

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Old Oct 7, 2018, 9:06 am
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Flying SFO-JFK-CLT-ORF all in F, Lowly OW gold. Will we be allowed access on arrival at JFK?
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Old Oct 7, 2018, 9:15 am
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Originally Posted by TheBeerHunter
Flying SFO-JFK-CLT-ORF all in F, Lowly OW gold. Will we be allowed access on arrival at JFK?
Yes, unless you get a dragon that makes up her own rules.
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Old Oct 15, 2018, 3:21 pm
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Does anyone know at what time they switch from a breakfast oriented menu to a lunch/all-day oriented menu @ JFK in First Class Dining?
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Old Oct 15, 2018, 10:05 pm
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Does anyone know at what time they switch from a breakfast oriented menu to a lunch/all-day oriented menu @ JFK in First Class Dining?
11:00am.
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