Feb 17, 2016, 5:05 pm
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ARCHIVE: New Flagship Lounge and Premium Lounge Coming to DFW Terminal D
Flagship Dining fully opened 3 Nov 2015 - hrs. 08:30 -
premium lounge still tba
Flagship Dining fully opened 3 Nov 2015 - hrs. 08:30 -
premium lounge still tba
The current thread is: DFW Flagship Dining (open Oct 2015)
NOTE: The previously designated smoking room in the Terminal D Admirals Club has been closed and refurbished as the interim Flagship Dining facility, 3 Nov 2015 specifically for dining (soft opening was 27 Oct). Wine, Champagne and beer are served; for other beverages, the Admirals Club bar will be used (chits are issued). (The Admirals Club itself will continue to serve as the lounge until the new premium lounge opens.)
From aa.com:
Flagship® Dining coming soon to DFW
Commencing November 3, select international passengers can enjoy exclusive access to Flagship® Dining, our premium dining experience inside our Terminal D Admirals Club® location at DFW.
Invited guests include passengers on eligible international itineraries (traveling to/from Europe, Asia, Central and South America and Mexico City*) who are either:
Commencing November 3, select international passengers can enjoy exclusive access to Flagship® Dining, our premium dining experience inside our Terminal D Admirals Club® location at DFW.
Invited guests include passengers on eligible international itineraries (traveling to/from Europe, Asia, Central and South America and Mexico City*) who are either:
- Traveling in First Class on American Airlines or oneworld® marketed and operated flights, or
- AAdvantage® Executive Platinum or oneworld® Emerald members traveling in any cabin**
NOTES: Admission rules are standard Flagship Lounge rules (see above). Boarding passes will be stamped at the entrance desk to demonstrate admission qualification and/or invitation cards issued.
*For the purpose of Flagship Lounge access, eligible international cities include flights traveling to or from Europe, Asia, Central and South America and Mexico City (and South Pacific, e.g. AKL, SYD) only.
**American Airlines AAdvantage Executive Platinum/Emerald customers traveling on solely North American itineraries do not qualify for Flagship Lounge access. North America is defined as U.S. (including Hawaii and Alaska), Canada, Mexico (except Mexico City), Bermuda, the Bahamas and the Caribbean
Customers traveling on airline industry non-revenue tickets are not eligible for access.
*For the purpose of Flagship Lounge access, eligible international cities include flights traveling to or from Europe, Asia, Central and South America and Mexico City (and South Pacific, e.g. AKL, SYD) only.
**American Airlines AAdvantage Executive Platinum/Emerald customers traveling on solely North American itineraries do not qualify for Flagship Lounge access. North America is defined as U.S. (including Hawaii and Alaska), Canada, Mexico (except Mexico City), Bermuda, the Bahamas and the Caribbean
Customers traveling on airline industry non-revenue tickets are not eligible for access.
For discussion about the lack of a Flagship Lounge at DFW, see Why is there no Flagship Lounge / FL at DFW? (consolidated)
Background: The DFW international terminal was previously Terminal A. The A Admirals Club offered both an Arrivals Lounge and a Flagship Lounge. These were closed after 11 September 2001; when the decision to make terminal D the c new in terminal, AA chose to build an expanded Admirals Club and omit both Flagship and Arrivals lounges. There is an AMEX Centurion lounge, and there are The Lounge at DFW and several contract lounges serving several airlines' passengers.
At DFW-A, the old Flagship Lounge still exists and is used for an occasional function or NR passenger; the old Arrivals Lounge is still there, and though no longer in service it's showers -arguably the most spacious and luxurious in the AA system - and small gym remain for knowing passenger's or member's use. Look for these facilities on your immediate left (FL) and right (AL) as you exit the elevators on the second (Club) floor.
ARCHIVE: New Flagship Dining (Nov 2015) and Future Premium Lounge for DFW "D"
Nov 14, 2022, 8:40 am
#1291
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I'd just fly direct. JFK FFD is not worth having to connect in the northeast in the winter and then taking a much shorter transatlantic flight.
Nov 14, 2022, 8:42 am
#1292
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At this point I'd say it's more of an "if" LAX FFD will reopen than "when." If you're flying AA F to LHR (or are OWE) you can use the QF F lounge, which is certainly nice.
Nov 29, 2022, 8:44 pm
#1293
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Pay to access FFD?
I know you used to be able to buy access to FFD in DFW for $100. I have a special trip planned next month and wanted to spend a long layover and make it special. We are in J on QR with AA EP status so we have lounge access. Anyone know if they still do this? Can it be arranged ahead or just at entry if available?
Nov 29, 2022, 9:02 pm
#1294
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I know you used to be able to buy access to FFD in DFW for $100. I have a special trip planned next month and wanted to spend a long layover and make it special. We are in J on QR with AA EP status so we have lounge access. Anyone know if they still do this? Can it be arranged ahead or just at entry if available?
Nov 29, 2022, 9:10 pm
#1295
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My 2c having flown flown LAX-LHR quite a bit on AA: fly direct. Recently I also considered buying up to F routing elsewhere, but a direct flight from LAX is so nice (plenty of time to dine, watch a movie, sleep). The JFK flight is heinously short. And Qantas F is very nice.
If anything maybe do DFW. Definitely wouldn't do a JFK short hop to LHR just for FFD.
Dec 1, 2022, 7:55 pm
#1296
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So is JFK's FFD still operating inside the "Greenwich" lounge (aka the old Flagship lounge) for a little while -- or has it already been replaced with the windowless Chelsea thing?
Dec 1, 2022, 9:44 pm
#1297
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Dec 1, 2022, 11:52 pm
#1298
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Where did the LPGS go? Is it sitting an empty FFD - i may have to try to get in there tomorrow when i am there.
Btw, when did they Redo the old FL to make it the Greenwich lounge? On Nov 30 after closing did they just remove all the furniture and set it up with all the new stuff? I somehow missed the construction of the 2 new lounges but I guess that was behind closed walls and above the gates and maybe one wouldnt notice but I was in FL 10/31, 11/3 and 11/9 and there wasnt any remodeling going on any of those times.
Btw, when did they Redo the old FL to make it the Greenwich lounge? On Nov 30 after closing did they just remove all the furniture and set it up with all the new stuff? I somehow missed the construction of the 2 new lounges but I guess that was behind closed walls and above the gates and maybe one wouldnt notice but I was in FL 10/31, 11/3 and 11/9 and there wasnt any remodeling going on any of those times.
Dec 2, 2022, 5:19 am
#1299
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Where did the LPGS go? Is it sitting an empty FFD - i may have to try to get in there tomorrow when i am there.
Btw, when did they Redo the old FL to make it the Greenwich lounge? On Nov 30 after closing did they just remove all the furniture and set it up with all the new stuff? I somehow missed the construction of the 2 new lounges but I guess that was behind closed walls and above the gates and maybe one wouldnt notice but I was in FL 10/31, 11/3 and 11/9 and there wasnt any remodeling going on any of those times.
Btw, when did they Redo the old FL to make it the Greenwich lounge? On Nov 30 after closing did they just remove all the furniture and set it up with all the new stuff? I somehow missed the construction of the 2 new lounges but I guess that was behind closed walls and above the gates and maybe one wouldnt notice but I was in FL 10/31, 11/3 and 11/9 and there wasnt any remodeling going on any of those times.
I don’t believe anything about the FL changed. They just changed the name of it and opened the doors between FFD, the former AC (both similar to COVID opening) and opened the bridge.
Dec 2, 2022, 9:51 am
#1300
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Where did the LPGS go? Is it sitting an empty FFD - i may have to try to get in there tomorrow when i am there.
Btw, when did they Redo the old FL to make it the Greenwich lounge? On Nov 30 after closing did they just remove all the furniture and set it up with all the new stuff? I somehow missed the construction of the 2 new lounges but I guess that was behind closed walls and above the gates and maybe one wouldnt notice but I was in FL 10/31, 11/3 and 11/9 and there wasnt any remodeling going on any of those times.
Btw, when did they Redo the old FL to make it the Greenwich lounge? On Nov 30 after closing did they just remove all the furniture and set it up with all the new stuff? I somehow missed the construction of the 2 new lounges but I guess that was behind closed walls and above the gates and maybe one wouldnt notice but I was in FL 10/31, 11/3 and 11/9 and there wasnt any remodeling going on any of those times.
Detailed review here
https://thepointsguy.com/reviews/ame...s-jfk-lounges/
So essentially four lounge tiers.
Chelsea - Actual First (like the Concorde Room)
SoHo - Emerald
Greenwich - Business or Sapphire lounge
Admirals Club (now only in Concourse C).
(With a few deviations for AA cardholders)
Chelsea the only one with a full dining experience, but windowless.
Food options in SoHo and Greenwich appear similar and more limited (Salads, Yoghurt, Charcuterie and a few hot dishes)
Greenwich lounge incorporates the old Flagship, Flagship Dining and Admiral's Councourse A lounge.
Interesting naming that incorporates locals in both NY and London.
https://thepointsguy.com/reviews/ame...s-jfk-lounges/
So essentially four lounge tiers.
Chelsea - Actual First (like the Concorde Room)
SoHo - Emerald
Greenwich - Business or Sapphire lounge
Admirals Club (now only in Concourse C).
(With a few deviations for AA cardholders)
Chelsea the only one with a full dining experience, but windowless.
Food options in SoHo and Greenwich appear similar and more limited (Salads, Yoghurt, Charcuterie and a few hot dishes)
Greenwich lounge incorporates the old Flagship, Flagship Dining and Admiral's Councourse A lounge.
Interesting naming that incorporates locals in both NY and London.
Dec 2, 2022, 1:24 pm
#1301
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Speaking of the Bridge, i have been drawing a major blank. Where exactly was it? I was there once in 2018 and I remember it was very nice, i liked the decor and the small a la carte menu. Returned 2020 and many x since during Covid and recent and its no more of course. How was it accessed? You accessed it from the AC entrance or was it over by FFD there didnt used to be a wall? Just having a blank and was bothering me I cant remember.
Dec 5, 2022, 8:28 am
#1302
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Posts: 341
On the AA site it says :
SO if I book a milage award for FIRST DFW LHR can I use the FF dining since it is non-revenue or are they referring to something else?
Access
If you’re flying on American Airlines in Flagship® First or Flagship® Business Plus on qualifying international or transcontinental flights, you automatically have access.*Qualifying international flights
Flights between the U.S. and:
- Asia
- Australia
- Europe
- Middle East
- New Zealand
- South America
Qualifying transcontinental flights
3-class non-stop flights between:
- New York (JFK) and Los Angeles (LAX)
- JFK and San Francisco (SFO)
- JFK and Orange County (SNA) – traveling on A321T aircraft only
- LAX and Boston (BOS) – traveling on A321T aircraft only
- LAX and Miami (MIA) – traveling on Boeing 777-300 aircraft only
SO if I book a milage award for FIRST DFW LHR can I use the FF dining since it is non-revenue or are they referring to something else?
Dec 5, 2022, 8:34 am
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Yes, you can use FFD on an award ticket. "Non-Revenue" tickets are referring to airline industry employee/family/friends travel.
Dec 8, 2022, 12:25 pm
#1304
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So as of now, Flagship First Dining is only offered at DFW and MIA?