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ARCHIVE: New Flagship Lounge and Premium Lounge Coming to DFW Terminal D
Flagship Dining fully opened 3 Nov 2015 - hrs. 08:30 -
premium lounge still tba


The current thread is: DFW Flagship Dining (open Oct 2015)
This thread is the archived file for discussion, including speculation, about the possible addition of a new Flagship Lounge and Premium Lounge at Dallas-Ft. Worth International. Terminal D, including the interim Flagship Dining.

NOTE: The previously designated smoking room in the Terminal D Admirals Club has been closed and refurbished as the interim Flagship Dining facility, 3 Nov 2015 specifically for dining (soft opening was 27 Oct). Wine, Champagne and beer are served; for other beverages, the Admirals Club bar will be used (chits are issued). (The Admirals Club itself will continue to serve as the lounge until the new premium lounge opens.)

From aa.com:

Flagship® Dining coming soon to DFW

Commencing November 3, select international passengers can enjoy exclusive access to Flagship® Dining, our premium dining experience inside our Terminal D Admirals Club® location at DFW.

Invited guests include passengers on eligible international itineraries (traveling to/from Europe, Asia, Central and South America and Mexico City*) who are either:
  • Traveling in First Class on American Airlines or oneworld® marketed and operated flights, or
  • AAdvantage® Executive Platinum or oneworld® Emerald members traveling in any cabin**
NOTES: Admission rules are standard Flagship Lounge rules (see above). Boarding passes will be stamped at the entrance desk to demonstrate admission qualification and/or invitation cards issued.

*For the purpose of Flagship Lounge access, eligible international cities include flights traveling to or from Europe, Asia, Central and South America and Mexico City (and South Pacific, e.g. AKL, SYD) only.

**American Airlines AAdvantage Executive Platinum/Emerald customers traveling on solely North American itineraries do not qualify for Flagship Lounge access. North America is defined as U.S. (including Hawaii and Alaska), Canada, Mexico (except Mexico City), Bermuda, the Bahamas and the Caribbean

Customers traveling on airline industry non-revenue tickets are not eligible for access.
See Gary Leff's take on the "FLD", the old DFW Flagship Lounge, etc. here.

For discussion about the lack of a Flagship Lounge at DFW, see Why is there no Flagship Lounge / FL at DFW? (consolidated)

Background: The DFW international terminal was previously Terminal A. The A Admirals Club offered both an Arrivals Lounge and a Flagship Lounge. These were closed after 11 September 2001; when the decision to make terminal D the c new in terminal, AA chose to build an expanded Admirals Club and omit both Flagship and Arrivals lounges. There is an AMEX Centurion lounge, and there are The Lounge at DFW and several contract lounges serving several airlines' passengers.

At DFW-A, the old Flagship Lounge still exists and is used for an occasional function or NR passenger; the old Arrivals Lounge is still there, and though no longer in service it's showers -arguably the most spacious and luxurious in the AA system - and small gym remain for knowing passenger's or member's use. Look for these facilities on your immediate left (FL) and right (AL) as you exit the elevators on the second (Club) floor.
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Old Jun 28, 2019, 9:12 am
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Originally Posted by Trippelone
AA First paid ticket. One world emerald. Was rerouted by AA through LAX for LAX-LHR flight (BA metal, AA codeshare) instead of original DFW-LHR flight (AA metal) due to multiple AA schedule changes of my domestic AA itinerary. My original transcontinental flight would have given me access to FFD in DFW. !
Originally Posted by Global321
I am a little unclear...

The first agent denied you access to FFD or to the FL? (You later say a second agent granted you access to the FL.) I think you are saying you were denied both by the first agent. I would have demanded to speak to a supervisor.

You also said "My original transcontinental flight would have given me access to FFD in DFW" - You were originally DFW-LAX-JFK-LHR in First the whole way on AA? What stopped you from FFD at DFW? The reroute to the BA non-stop?

While I would have been annoyed by being denied entry to the FL at LAX - but not too upset as it would have been sorted out very quickly - I would happily trade LAX-JFK-LHR in AA first for LAX-LHR in BA first.
The OP didn't provide the full original itinerary, but I suspect it was at a minimum XXX-DFW-LHR in F on AA metal. Somehow AA XXX-DFW schedule changes forced the OP to be rerouted to XXX-LAX-LHR, still in F, but now on BA metal, thus the denial of access to FFD, which they would have gotten on the original itinerary through DFW.
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Old Jun 28, 2019, 10:33 am
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Originally Posted by Trippelone
JFK has nothing to do with this. My original routing was PHX-DFW-LHR and my rerouted routing was PHX-LAX-LHR. My problem is no access granted to FFD at LAX. Access to FL was quickly sorted out by second lounge agent.
That is where you lost me - and I think others - you said you had a transcon. You did not.

I understand why you were upset, but I also understand why the agent in LAX said no to FFD. You did not have an itinerary that gave you access. Of course, I understand your POV - you booked an itinerary that would have given you FFD in Dallas.

While I understand your disappointment at no FFD I think you still came out ahead with BA First (vs AA First) over the pond. But, to each is own.
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Old Jun 28, 2019, 6:28 pm
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Originally Posted by Global321
That is where you lost me - and I think others - you said you had a transcon. You did not.

I understand why you were upset, but I also understand why the agent in LAX said no to FFD. You did not have an itinerary that gave you access. Of course, I understand your POV - you booked an itinerary that would have given you FFD in Dallas.

While I understand your disappointment at no FFD I think you still came out ahead with BA First (vs AA First) over the pond. But, to each is own.
Yes, I was confused as well. Perhaps the poster meant "intercontinental" rather than "transcontinental?" At any rate, the poster has access to the Flagship lounge and the LAX Qantas first class lounge both by being a BA Gold and by flying a OneWorld airline in first. It would have been nice if an agent at LAX had granted the poster FFD access because the booked itinerary would have provided it in DFW and it was an involuntary change. But I don't believe policy requires this.
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Old Jun 29, 2019, 4:43 pm
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In late-July, I’m booked in Flagship First LAX-LHR on a MileSaaver ticket. Will I have access to FFD at LAX? What is an “airline industry non-revenue ticket”, which I see does not get access? Isn’t an AA award a non-rev ticket?
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Old Jun 29, 2019, 5:25 pm
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Originally Posted by OneWorldSapphire
In late-July, I’m booked in Flagship First LAX-LHR on a MileSaaver ticket. Will I have access to FFD at LAX? What is an “airline industry non-revenue ticket”, which I see does not get access? Isn’t an AA award a non-rev ticket?
You will have access to FD on an award ticket, no different than a paid ticket. The "airline industry non-rev" is basically terminology for AA employees flying for free...
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Old Jun 29, 2019, 5:26 pm
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Originally Posted by OneWorldSapphire
In late-July, I’m booked in Flagship First LAX-LHR on a MileSaaver ticket. Will I have access to FFD at LAX? What is an “airline industry non-revenue ticket”, which I see does not get access? Isn’t an AA award a non-rev ticket?
Yes you will have access to FFD at LAX and no, business extra and award tickets are not non-rev tickets.
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Old Jun 29, 2019, 9:30 pm
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Originally Posted by JJeffrey
You will have access to FD on an award ticket, no different than a paid ticket. The "airline industry non-rev" is basically terminology for AA employees flying for free...
Originally Posted by enpremiere


Yes you will have access to FFD at LAX and no, business extra and award tickets are not non-rev tickets.
Thanks so much to you both! Really looking forward to this!
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Old Jun 30, 2019, 6:00 am
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Originally Posted by OneWorldSapphire




Thanks so much to you both! Really looking forward to this!
And don't forget to use Flagship First check-in to save time!

Enjoy your flight!!!
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Old Jul 2, 2019, 12:35 am
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Originally Posted by Global321
I understand why you were upset, but I also understand why the agent in LAX said no to FFD. You did not have an itinerary that gave you access.
Does LAX not give FFD access to BA F customers like MIA and DFW do? I could certainly imagine this being the case since LAX has a FC lounge accessible to BA F customers (the Qantas lounge)
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Old Jul 2, 2019, 4:19 am
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Originally Posted by ikwia
Does LAX not give FFD access to BA F customers like MIA and DFW do? I could certainly imagine this being the case since LAX has a FC lounge accessible to BA F customers (the Qantas lounge)
Yep, no FD access at LAX for BA F pax since there's a dedicated F lounge they can access (QF F lounge) as you mentioned.
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Old Jul 2, 2019, 4:32 am
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Originally Posted by JJeffrey
Yep, no FD access at LAX for BA F pax since there's a dedicated F lounge they can access (QF F lounge) as you mentioned.
Well, just to be clear, BA is not willing to pay AA for FFD access at LAX. But this is indeed due to the fact that BA can direct their F flyers to the QF F lounge.
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Old Jul 2, 2019, 7:38 am
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One comment on Flagship dining at JFK. Food was ok. However, the service was simply amateurish. Not an issue with attitude as the servers were friendly enough. They simply had zero training. Asked for a double expresso. They brought a cup but no saucer. Did not bring sugar until asked. Ordered eggs and starter of fruit. They brought it all at once. The servers spent all their time looking at each other and talking instead of surveying the room to see if the guests needed anything. These are all training faults.
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Old Jul 2, 2019, 11:50 am
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Originally Posted by sfoeuroflyer
One comment on Flagship dining at JFK. Food was ok. However, the service was simply amateurish. Not an issue with attitude as the servers were friendly enough. They simply had zero training. Asked for a double expresso. They brought a cup but no saucer. Did not bring sugar until asked. Ordered eggs and starter of fruit. They brought it all at once. The servers spent all their time looking at each other and talking instead of surveying the room to see if the guests needed anything. These are all training faults.
Spot on!

We were in there tonight as well. Nice enough, but wow. Forgot the broth for the un-wonton soup! They lost our order for our mains so it took over 1 hour for our food to be delivered. Glasses left empty even as they walked by. Spent most of their time talking to one another by the bar.

Food was good. But they really need to step up the service.
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Old Jul 2, 2019, 1:23 pm
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Yup, that was my feeling entirely. Some training is definitely needed. Food was pretty good when it eventually arrived, but service was very haphazard. Good pours of Krug, but only on demand.
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Old Jul 2, 2019, 3:09 pm
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Originally Posted by sfoeuroflyer
One comment on Flagship dining at JFK. Food was ok. However, the service was simply amateurish. Not an issue with attitude as the servers were friendly enough. They simply had zero training. Asked for a double expresso. They brought a cup but no saucer. Did not bring sugar until asked. Ordered eggs and starter of fruit. They brought it all at once. The servers spent all their time looking at each other and talking instead of surveying the room to see if the guests needed anything. These are all training faults.
One person to blame: the f & b manager on duty. If there’s none, the blame level goes up to whoever is responsible for that error.
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