Nov 26, 2014, 4:51 am
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Speculation: New Routes, Hubs, Flights (2017 Onward)
Because there is community interest in having a purely speculative discussion about whether other airports will pop up to become focus cities or hubs, new routes, etc. the following new thread has been amalgamated on this topic.Note:
Going: 9 A330-300, ER190, some older 757-200 and 8 767-300ER (leaving 17), MD-80
Coming: Remainder of 16 Boeing 26 787-8, 22 Boeing 787-9 (began later 2016). A320 family - 100 A321neo, and B737-800 (100 737-MAX8) aircraft.
See Cranky Flier article on 2016 fleet changes, AA-HP-US. Link.
Also see: HELP DESK: General questions about aircraft equipment, fleet, seats, IFE, etc.
Speculation fun time: Will xxx be the next AA focus city / hub? (consolidated)
Obsolete posts from 2015 on have been moved to ARCHIVE: Speculation: Possible Routes (Flights) and Hubs, Discussion - 2015 on
All posts prior to 2015 have been moved here: ARCHIVE: Routes (Flights) and Hubs (Speculation, News and Discussion)
Speculation: Possible Routes (Flights) and Hubs, Discussion - (2017 on)
Aug 22, 2016, 4:13 am
#136
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In any case new AA service at AMS would obviouisly be for O&D rather than connections at the AMS end. It's worth noting that BA has a very large presence in AMS which feeds into the TATL JV so they will have good data on whether there is enough demand to satisfy a new non-stop.
Aug 22, 2016, 7:11 am
#138
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Then there's a seperate aug12 dated item stating:
"We will begin flying ORD-PHL-AMS-PHL-ORD on September 7th..."
And it goes on to mention that for now MIA-based Crew wil fly it 2 days a week as there's not enough ORD-based Dutch-speaking crew etc
"We will begin flying ORD-PHL-AMS-PHL-ORD on September 7th..."
And it goes on to mention that for now MIA-based Crew wil fly it 2 days a week as there's not enough ORD-based Dutch-speaking crew etc
Aug 23, 2016, 1:59 am
#139
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I've done it quite often myself. Mainly UA to AMS and OS to VIE. However, I try not to do so on the return to the States. Because the security checks (at the gate) for US carriers at AMS is a major PITA. And AMS is a much better airport (for a connection) than BRU/FRA/CPH/ZRH in my view. However, the Star lounges at AMS don't have a lot to be desired.
Aug 23, 2016, 2:04 am
#140
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But are they just planning to keep this as a tag-on, or do they really want to eventually fly direct from ORD to AMS?
Aug 23, 2016, 4:21 am
#141
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As Jon noted further down, AA do have a handful of Dutch speakers in ORD, though they clearly believe they'd need more.
Aug 23, 2016, 8:00 am
#142
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I've done it quite often myself. Mainly UA to AMS and OS to VIE. However, I try not to do so on the return to the States. Because the security checks (at the gate) for US carriers at AMS is a major PITA. And AMS is a much better airport (for a connection) than BRU/FRA/CPH/ZRH in my view. However, the Star lounges at AMS don't have a lot to be desired.
I agree that I would rather transit AMS than FRA. Any day.
Sep 8, 2016, 12:48 pm
#148
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Some winter suspensions also- JFK-CDG second flight, ORD-CDG, PHL-FRA, JFK-MAN.
I welcome this ORD-BCN flight! Always had to take the ORD-MAD Iberia flight before this and connect (or take a train). Wonder if they'll use a 787.
I welcome this ORD-BCN flight! Always had to take the ORD-MAD Iberia flight before this and connect (or take a train). Wonder if they'll use a 787.
Sep 8, 2016, 12:52 pm
#149
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Any idea on the length of the suspensions? AA did a lot of rotating suspensions Jan-March last winter. (PHL-FCO suspended for 4 weeks in Jan, then something like PHL-MUC suspended for 6 weeks starting in Feb, etc.)
Sep 8, 2016, 1:00 pm
#150
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The second JFK-CDG flight and JFK-MAN are almost always operated by a 75L. Even though there is already slack in the 75L fleet, especially with the continued drawdown of secondary Brazil cities, this may mean the 75L CIP will be much quicker than previous conversions.