Nov 26, 2014, 4:51 am
Last edit by: IADCAflyer
Speculation: New Routes, Hubs, Flights (2017 Onward)
Because there is community interest in having a purely speculative discussion about whether other airports will pop up to become focus cities or hubs, new routes, etc. the following new thread has been amalgamated on this topic.Note:
Going: 9 A330-300, ER190, some older 757-200 and 8 767-300ER (leaving 17), MD-80
Coming: Remainder of 16 Boeing 26 787-8, 22 Boeing 787-9 (began later 2016). A320 family - 100 A321neo, and B737-800 (100 737-MAX8) aircraft.
See Cranky Flier article on 2016 fleet changes, AA-HP-US. Link.
Also see: HELP DESK: General questions about aircraft equipment, fleet, seats, IFE, etc.
Speculation fun time: Will xxx be the next AA focus city / hub? (consolidated)
Obsolete posts from 2015 on have been moved to ARCHIVE: Speculation: Possible Routes (Flights) and Hubs, Discussion - 2015 on
All posts prior to 2015 have been moved here: ARCHIVE: Routes (Flights) and Hubs (Speculation, News and Discussion)
Speculation: Possible Routes (Flights) and Hubs, Discussion - (2017 on)
Mar 27, 2018, 9:02 am
#888
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: SNA/LAX, PHL
Programs: AA Gold, AS MVP, WN A-List, Hilton Gold, Hyatt Exp, Hertz PC
Posts: 449
Actually all I need is a Friday PHL-SNA routing that departs after 6pm and gets in the same day.
Not possible thru connecting due to SNA curfew.
Not possible thru connecting due to SNA curfew.
Mar 27, 2018, 11:12 am
#890
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: New York
Programs: AA EXP 1.0mm, not sure where I am with hotels these days
Posts: 2,795
AA shifted their second JFK-GRU daily to VCP, a ghost town of an international terminal, a few years ago. When the traffic didn't pan out, or Paulistanos didn't want to make the journey up to Campinas (or the incentives burned off), the route died.
Mar 27, 2018, 12:24 pm
#891
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: YYJ
Posts: 4,137
YVR-ORD is a redeye.
Didn't work well when US tried YVR-PHL as a redeye. That lasted one summer.
And that was the only flight on that route.
YVR-ORD faces significant lift on AC & UA. UA also has a redeye.
Nice to have that extra option, but I don't see it working well. Maybe they can grow the market and end up with a second flight that will line up with the trans-Atlantic bank.
Didn't work well when US tried YVR-PHL as a redeye. That lasted one summer.
And that was the only flight on that route.
YVR-ORD faces significant lift on AC & UA. UA also has a redeye.
Nice to have that extra option, but I don't see it working well. Maybe they can grow the market and end up with a second flight that will line up with the trans-Atlantic bank.
Mar 27, 2018, 1:08 pm
#894
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: DFW/PHL
Programs: US CP, UA *G; SPG Plat, Hilton Gold; Natl Exec, Hertz PC
Posts: 623
And DFW-OAX (Oaxaca), though on an E175.
Press Release
Press Release
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Route Aircraft On Sale Flights Begin LAX-EZE Boeing 787-9 April 2 Dec. 19 DFW-OAX Embraer E175 April 2 Dec. 19 MIA-GEO Airbus A319 April 2 Dec. 20 MIA-PEI Airbus A319 April 17 Dec. 20 MIA-COR Boeing 767-300 May 7 Apr. 2, 2019
Mar 27, 2018, 3:11 pm
#895
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: los angeles, calif.
Programs: Alaska Airlines Gold MVP
Posts: 7,170
Also Brazil cuts which I think are in order to get the LATAM JBA approved because Brazil is not a struggling market anymore.
MIAGRU daylight gone (makes little sense, now the plane will just be parked)
MIACNF gone (surprising it’s a huge market)
JFKGIG seasonal
DFWGIG not coming back.
DFWUIO gone, too.
MIAGRU daylight gone (makes little sense, now the plane will just be parked)
MIACNF gone (surprising it’s a huge market)
JFKGIG seasonal
DFWGIG not coming back.
DFWUIO gone, too.
Mar 27, 2018, 6:34 pm
#896
Original Member
Join Date: May 1998
Location: CNF/LAX/HKG/PVG
Programs: AA EXP, Lifetime PLT, Silver EK Skywards
Posts: 748
The MIA-CNF is my regular route. I have mixed feelings about this because the 763 is truly a clunker.
It's quite surprising since I see the flight almost full every time. May not be a high yield market but there's definitely demand there. The only logic I see is the JV with Latam so hopefully we'll see them filling the gap.
It's quite surprising since I see the flight almost full every time. May not be a high yield market but there's definitely demand there. The only logic I see is the JV with Latam so hopefully we'll see them filling the gap.
Mar 27, 2018, 9:03 pm
#897
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: los angeles, calif.
Programs: Alaska Airlines Gold MVP
Posts: 7,170
The MIA-CNF is my regular route. I have mixed feelings about this because the 763 is truly a clunker.
It's quite surprising since I see the flight almost full every time. May not be a high yield market but there's definitely demand there. The only logic I see is the JV with Latam so hopefully we'll see them filling the gap.
It's quite surprising since I see the flight almost full every time. May not be a high yield market but there's definitely demand there. The only logic I see is the JV with Latam so hopefully we'll see them filling the gap.
LATAM I imagine will quickly re-start MIA-CNF in the fall. Too huge a market.
Mar 28, 2018, 6:23 am
#898
Join Date: Dec 2016
Posts: 1,485
Also Brazil cuts which I think are in order to get the LATAM JBA approved because Brazil is not a struggling market anymore.
MIAGRU daylight gone (makes little sense, now the plane will just be parked)
MIACNF gone (surprising it’s a huge market)
JFKGIG seasonal
DFWGIG not coming back.
DFWUIO gone, too.
MIAGRU daylight gone (makes little sense, now the plane will just be parked)
MIACNF gone (surprising it’s a huge market)
JFKGIG seasonal
DFWGIG not coming back.
DFWUIO gone, too.
Mar 28, 2018, 7:17 am
#899
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Beantown! (BOS)
Programs: AA PtPro (2 MM); Hilton Diamond; Hertz President Cr; DL SkyMiles; UA MileagePlus
Posts: 3,438
Alright, I did not go through entire 60 pages to see if this was mentioned or not.
Morning NRT departre, AA 176 NRT-DFW 10:40 a.m. departure. Aircraft overnight at NRT for this flight. Let the partner JL do NRT morning departure for better aircraft utilization.
However, JL's NRT-DFW flight is 10:45 a.m. departure, 5 min. after AA 176. AA has overnighting aircraft at NRT ever since DFW-NRT went twice daily. Will AA continue to overnight aircraft at NRT?
Morning NRT departre, AA 176 NRT-DFW 10:40 a.m. departure. Aircraft overnight at NRT for this flight. Let the partner JL do NRT morning departure for better aircraft utilization.
However, JL's NRT-DFW flight is 10:45 a.m. departure, 5 min. after AA 176. AA has overnighting aircraft at NRT ever since DFW-NRT went twice daily. Will AA continue to overnight aircraft at NRT?
