Oct 30, 2014, 12:48 pm
Last edit by: yerffej201
="5"%New Aeroplan City Pair mileages:
How to get the MPM online: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28509402-post231.html
Between:
Europe 1-Asia 1:
FRA-NRT: 9642 (q)
NRT-NCE: 10,302 (q)
Europe 1 - Asia 2:
VIE-SGN 8464 (q)
GRZ-DPS 9965 (q)
Europe 2-Asia 1:
DME-NRT:9,091 -- 7,288(q) (they lowered it??)
DME-KIX: 7,108 (q)
LED-NRT: 7,398 (q)
DME-HKT: 6,249 (q)
Europe 1-North America
Europe 1-Australia
-FRA-SYD: 16700 (RTW:FRA-BKK-SYD-ICN-ORD-YYZ-FRA)
-CDG-PPT: 16065
-CDG-AKL: 18952
Asia 1-Asia 1
-PVG-SIN: 4278 (q)
Asia 2-Asia 1
-MNL-PEK: 2990 (q)
Asia 1-South Pacific
-NRT-RAR: 9170 (q)
Asia 1-Southern South America
-PVG-EZE: 20142 (q)
Asia 2-Northern South America
-SIN-UIO: 20279 (q)
North America-Europe 1
YVR-CPH: 7609 (c)
YVR-ZRH: 8363 (c)
YVR-LYR: 6196 (q)
YVR-TOS: 7164 (q)
YVR-KEF: 8019 (q)
BOS-VCE: 6453 (c)
YYZ-ARN: 6099 (q)
YYC-CPH: 7958 (c)
YVR-DUB: 7609 (c)
LAX-DUB: 8849 (c)
SAN-DUB: 9309 (c)
YVR-CDG: 8383 (c)
SAN-CDG: 10145 (c)
YVR-OSL: 7609 (c)
SAN-OSL: 9627 (c)
North America-Europe 2
YUL-KRR: 8163 (q)
YEG-IST: 9196 (q)
YVR-WAW: 8473
YVR-BUD: 8934
YVR-ATH: 10097
YVR-VKO: 8490 (q)
YVR-IST: 9920 (c)
LAX-IST: 11387 (c)
JFK-IST: 8275 (c)
MIA-IST: 9881 (c)
SFO-IST: 11137 (c)
ORD-IST: 9077 (c)
IAH-IST: 10571 (c)
IAH-BJV: 10767 (c)
North America-Asia 1
-YVR-HKG - 8381 (c)
-YVR-HIJ 7092
-YYC-BKK - 9776 (q)
-YEG-HKG 9113
-YEG-SIN 11377
-YEG-BKK 10382
-YEG-HKG is 9137 (q)
-YEG-SIN is 13447 (q) May 20, 2017
-ORD-BKK - 13753 (q)
-YYZ-BKK - 11055 (q) YYZ-BKK 11905
-YYZ-HND - 9088
-YYZ-NRT - 9049 (q)
-YYZ-ICN - 9297 (q)
-YYZ-PEK - 9228 (q)
-YYZ-HKG - 10957 (q)
-YYZ-OKA - 10200 (q)
-YYZ-TPE - 10544
-YYT-TPE - 10389 (q)
-YYT-HKG - 10576 (q)
-YYT-MFM - 10582 (q)
-ICN-YUL - 9260 (q)
-ICN-YEG - 7351 (q)
-TYO-YUL - 9071 (q)
-OSA-YOW - 9256 (q)
North America-Asia 2
YQB-MNL - 13600
YUL-DPS - 16,240 (q)
YEG-KUL 13301
YEG-PNH 12298
YEG-CNX - 11822
YVR-RGN 12060
YVR-BKK 12150
YVR-SIN 13196
YVR-SGN 12120
YVR-MNL 10854
YVR-HKT - 12824 (q)
YYT-SIN - 14493 (q) Aug 17, 2018
YYT-BKK - 13045 (q)
YYT-SGN - 13585 (q)
YYZ-SIN - 13095 (q)
YYZ-HKT - 12480 (q)
YYZ-DPS - 16293(q) May 22, 2017
SFO-BKK - 13956
YOW-BKK - 12156 as per syntron's post.
SAN-KUL - 14729
SFO-KUL - 14012
KUL-LAX - 14565
North America-Australia, New Zealand
YYZ-SYD: 15540 (q)
YYZ-AKL: 13816 (q)
YYZ-MEL 16210 (q)
YYZ-PER 18050 (q)
YUL-PER 18164 (q)
NYC-PER 18633 (q)
PER-SFO 14714 (q)
BDA-PER 20444 (q)
MEL-YVR 13160 (q)
YEG-MEL 13921 (q)
YEG-AKL 12078 (q)
YEG-PER 14693 (c)
BNE-YVR 11820 (q)
YVR-PER 14765 (q)
SYD-YVR 12417 (q)
JFK-SYD 15965 (q)
JFK-MEL 16669 (q)
YYC-SYD 13,096 (q)
YYC-MEL 13,829 (q)
YYC-BNE 12,468 (q)
YYC-PER 15,384 (q)
MIA-PER 18,230 (q)
MIA-SYD 14,938 (q)
MIA-BNE 14,670 (q)
As per Novagirl17's post, Nov 28, 2016
YHZ-MEL, 17,460
YHZ-SYD, 16,735
YHZ-AKL, 15,068
As per Beavertails on 2018-01-08:
YOW-PER = 18,121
YUL-PER = 18,194
YHZ-PER = 18,462
As per ffsim on 2018-02-14:
YUL-SYD = 15,968
North America-Indian Subcontinent
-YVR-MLE: 14270 (q)
North America-Northern South America
North America-Southern South America
YVR-LIM 8364 (q)
SEA-LIM 8170 (q)
YVR-SCL 10813 (q) Apr 1, 2017
YVR-EZE 11,557 (q) May 10, 2017
North America-East, West & South Africa
YVR-JNB 16362 (q)
YVR-CPT 16108 (q)
YVR-LVI 15420 (q)
YVR-VFA 15474 (q)
YYZ-SEZ 13750 (q)
YVR-MRU 16700 (q)
YVR-SEZ 14956 (q)
YVR-MQX 12844 (q)
YYJ-MRU 16718 (q)
LAX-MRU 18356 (q)
SFO-MRU 17998 (q)
LAX-JNB 16585 (q)
SFO-JNB 16863 (q)
YYZ-SEZ 13750 (q)
YYZ-JNB 13268
JFK-MRU 14790
North America- Middle East
YVR - FRU 9935 (q)
YVR - TAS 10,100
How to get the MPM online: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28509402-post231.html
Between:
Europe 1-Asia 1:
FRA-NRT: 9642 (q)
NRT-NCE: 10,302 (q)
Europe 1 - Asia 2:
VIE-SGN 8464 (q)
GRZ-DPS 9965 (q)
Europe 2-Asia 1:
DME-NRT:
DME-KIX: 7,108 (q)
LED-NRT: 7,398 (q)
DME-HKT: 6,249 (q)
Europe 1-North America
Europe 1-Australia
-FRA-SYD: 16700 (RTW:FRA-BKK-SYD-ICN-ORD-YYZ-FRA)
-CDG-PPT: 16065
-CDG-AKL: 18952
Asia 1-Asia 1
-PVG-SIN: 4278 (q)
Asia 2-Asia 1
-MNL-PEK: 2990 (q)
Asia 1-South Pacific
-NRT-RAR: 9170 (q)
Asia 1-Southern South America
-PVG-EZE: 20142 (q)
Asia 2-Northern South America
-SIN-UIO: 20279 (q)
North America-Europe 1
YVR-CPH: 7609 (c)
YVR-ZRH: 8363 (c)
YVR-LYR: 6196 (q)
YVR-TOS: 7164 (q)
YVR-KEF: 8019 (q)
BOS-VCE: 6453 (c)
YYZ-ARN: 6099 (q)
YYC-CPH: 7958 (c)
YVR-DUB: 7609 (c)
LAX-DUB: 8849 (c)
SAN-DUB: 9309 (c)
YVR-CDG: 8383 (c)
SAN-CDG: 10145 (c)
YVR-OSL: 7609 (c)
SAN-OSL: 9627 (c)
North America-Europe 2
YUL-KRR: 8163 (q)
YEG-IST: 9196 (q)
YVR-WAW: 8473
YVR-BUD: 8934
YVR-ATH: 10097
YVR-VKO: 8490 (q)
YVR-IST: 9920 (c)
LAX-IST: 11387 (c)
JFK-IST: 8275 (c)
MIA-IST: 9881 (c)
SFO-IST: 11137 (c)
ORD-IST: 9077 (c)
IAH-IST: 10571 (c)
IAH-BJV: 10767 (c)
North America-Asia 1
-YVR-HKG - 8381 (c)
-YVR-HIJ 7092
-YYC-BKK - 9776 (q)
-YEG-HKG 9113
-YEG-SIN 11377
-YEG-BKK 10382
-YEG-HKG is 9137 (q)
-YEG-SIN is 13447 (q) May 20, 2017
-ORD-BKK - 13753 (q)
-YYZ-BKK - 11055 (q) YYZ-BKK 11905
-YYZ-HND - 9088
-YYZ-NRT - 9049 (q)
-YYZ-ICN - 9297 (q)
-YYZ-PEK - 9228 (q)
-YYZ-HKG - 10957 (q)
-YYZ-OKA - 10200 (q)
-YYZ-TPE - 10544
-YYT-TPE - 10389 (q)
-YYT-HKG - 10576 (q)
-YYT-MFM - 10582 (q)
-ICN-YUL - 9260 (q)
-ICN-YEG - 7351 (q)
-TYO-YUL - 9071 (q)
-OSA-YOW - 9256 (q)
North America-Asia 2
YQB-MNL - 13600
YUL-DPS - 16,240 (q)
YEG-KUL 13301
YEG-PNH 12298
YEG-CNX - 11822
YVR-RGN 12060
YVR-BKK 12150
YVR-SIN 13196
YVR-SGN 12120
YVR-MNL 10854
YVR-HKT - 12824 (q)
YYT-SIN - 14493 (q) Aug 17, 2018
YYT-BKK - 13045 (q)
YYT-SGN - 13585 (q)
YYZ-SIN - 13095 (q)
YYZ-HKT - 12480 (q)
YYZ-DPS - 16293(q) May 22, 2017
SFO-BKK - 13956
YOW-BKK - 12156 as per syntron's post.
SAN-KUL - 14729
SFO-KUL - 14012
KUL-LAX - 14565
North America-Australia, New Zealand
YYZ-SYD: 15540 (q)
YYZ-AKL: 13816 (q)
YYZ-MEL 16210 (q)
YYZ-PER 18050 (q)
YUL-PER 18164 (q)
NYC-PER 18633 (q)
PER-SFO 14714 (q)
BDA-PER 20444 (q)
MEL-YVR 13160 (q)
YEG-MEL 13921 (q)
YEG-AKL 12078 (q)
YEG-PER 14693 (c)
BNE-YVR 11820 (q)
YVR-PER 14765 (q)
SYD-YVR 12417 (q)
JFK-SYD 15965 (q)
JFK-MEL 16669 (q)
YYC-SYD 13,096 (q)
YYC-MEL 13,829 (q)
YYC-BNE 12,468 (q)
YYC-PER 15,384 (q)
MIA-PER 18,230 (q)
MIA-SYD 14,938 (q)
MIA-BNE 14,670 (q)
As per Novagirl17's post, Nov 28, 2016
YHZ-MEL, 17,460
YHZ-SYD, 16,735
YHZ-AKL, 15,068
As per Beavertails on 2018-01-08:
YOW-PER = 18,121
YUL-PER = 18,194
YHZ-PER = 18,462
As per ffsim on 2018-02-14:
YUL-SYD = 15,968
North America-Indian Subcontinent
-YVR-MLE: 14270 (q)
North America-Northern South America
North America-Southern South America
YVR-LIM 8364 (q)
SEA-LIM 8170 (q)
YVR-SCL 10813 (q) Apr 1, 2017
YVR-EZE 11,557 (q) May 10, 2017
North America-East, West & South Africa
YVR-JNB 16362 (q)
YVR-CPT 16108 (q)
YVR-LVI 15420 (q)
YVR-VFA 15474 (q)
YYZ-SEZ 13750 (q)
YVR-MRU 16700 (q)
YVR-SEZ 14956 (q)
YVR-MQX 12844 (q)
YYJ-MRU 16718 (q)
LAX-MRU 18356 (q)
SFO-MRU 17998 (q)
LAX-JNB 16585 (q)
SFO-JNB 16863 (q)
YYZ-SEZ 13750 (q)
YYZ-JNB 13268
JFK-MRU 14790
North America- Middle East
YVR - FRU 9935 (q)
YVR - TAS 10,100
Aeroplan City Pair mileage (new pseudo-MPM)
Apr 17, 2017, 9:35 pm
#197
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: YHZ
Programs: HH Gold, MR Gold, SPG Gold
Posts: 87
The number for each city pair is the maximum distance permitted (one way) for any route between your origin and destination. This helps in planning stopovers and layovers along the way.
Apr 28, 2017, 5:24 am
#198
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: YVR
Programs: OZ Diamond, Jiffypark Manhattan Gold
Posts: 4,485
Might be a dumb question, but I'm only asking since they used to have MPM5...is there totally 0 flexibility to these numbers?
I'm looking at YVR-BKK shows in the sticky as 12150, the route I just checked on gcmap YVR-YYZ-WAW-IST-DXB-BKK is 12184.
Now I just called...this is what I was quoted...
YVR-BKK 12,160
BKK-YVR 12,170
Even she couldn't explain the extra 10 miles...but that's also a 10 mile bump from the 12,150 on the sticky.
I'm looking at YVR-BKK shows in the sticky as 12150, the route I just checked on gcmap YVR-YYZ-WAW-IST-DXB-BKK is 12184.
Now I just called...this is what I was quoted...
YVR-BKK 12,160
BKK-YVR 12,170
Even she couldn't explain the extra 10 miles...but that's also a 10 mile bump from the 12,150 on the sticky.
Apr 28, 2017, 7:44 pm
#200
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: YVR
Programs: OZ Diamond, Jiffypark Manhattan Gold
Posts: 4,485
Apr 28, 2017, 8:59 pm
#202
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: YVR
Programs: OZ Diamond, Jiffypark Manhattan Gold
Posts: 4,485
This would've worked, so would YVR-YYZ-IST-DXB-BKK.
The problem was getting the J seats. I had everything lined up, but one of the connections was like 30 minutes too short to connect and 1 hour too long to make it a < 24 stop.
In the end...I'm pleased to report the routing worked.
Just booked
YVR-YYZ-WAW-IST-DXB-BKK
Sadly my return crushed my spirits so I had to let it go. Wanted to fly 380 and 350 but OZ across the pacific got my fuel surcharge to almost $800 CAD. Scrapped that, got BR for $450 total roughly. Honestly the $800 probably wasn't that bad, but it's a short J trip and I figure I can fly 380/350 maybe in the future. The 350 is still perhaps in the cards, originally when I looked (a couple days back) TG DXB-BKK was a 350, then it got swapped to 330. Hopefully they switch it back, we'll see.
Thanks for the help folks.
The problem was getting the J seats. I had everything lined up, but one of the connections was like 30 minutes too short to connect and 1 hour too long to make it a < 24 stop.
In the end...I'm pleased to report the routing worked.
Just booked
YVR-YYZ-WAW-IST-DXB-BKK
Sadly my return crushed my spirits so I had to let it go. Wanted to fly 380 and 350 but OZ across the pacific got my fuel surcharge to almost $800 CAD. Scrapped that, got BR for $450 total roughly. Honestly the $800 probably wasn't that bad, but it's a short J trip and I figure I can fly 380/350 maybe in the future. The 350 is still perhaps in the cards, originally when I looked (a couple days back) TG DXB-BKK was a 350, then it got swapped to 330. Hopefully they switch it back, we'll see.
Thanks for the help folks.
Apr 29, 2017, 2:07 pm
#203
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 2,494
This would've worked, so would YVR-YYZ-IST-DXB-BKK.
The problem was getting the J seats. I had everything lined up, but one of the connections was like 30 minutes too short to connect and 1 hour too long to make it a < 24 stop.
In the end...I'm pleased to report the routing worked.
Just booked
YVR-YYZ-WAW-IST-DXB-BKK
Sadly my return crushed my spirits so I had to let it go. Wanted to fly 380 and 350 but OZ across the pacific got my fuel surcharge to almost $800 CAD. Scrapped that, got BR for $450 total roughly. Honestly the $800 probably wasn't that bad, but it's a short J trip and I figure I can fly 380/350 maybe in the future. The 350 is still perhaps in the cards, originally when I looked (a couple days back) TG DXB-BKK was a 350, then it got swapped to 330. Hopefully they switch it back, we'll see.
Thanks for the help folks.
The problem was getting the J seats. I had everything lined up, but one of the connections was like 30 minutes too short to connect and 1 hour too long to make it a < 24 stop.
In the end...I'm pleased to report the routing worked.
Just booked
YVR-YYZ-WAW-IST-DXB-BKK
Sadly my return crushed my spirits so I had to let it go. Wanted to fly 380 and 350 but OZ across the pacific got my fuel surcharge to almost $800 CAD. Scrapped that, got BR for $450 total roughly. Honestly the $800 probably wasn't that bad, but it's a short J trip and I figure I can fly 380/350 maybe in the future. The 350 is still perhaps in the cards, originally when I looked (a couple days back) TG DXB-BKK was a 350, then it got swapped to 330. Hopefully they switch it back, we'll see.
Thanks for the help folks.
Apr 30, 2017, 9:40 pm
#204
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: YVR
Programs: OZ Diamond, Jiffypark Manhattan Gold
Posts: 4,485
So I've heard 
Fingers crossed!
I will say there's some quirks in the whole thing though. Like it seems strange to me that YYC-BKK is quoted way lower than YVR, YOW/YYZ are quoted marginally lower.
Also it's a bit funny that while my furthest destination in this case was BKK (not by much admittedly) but I PAID for DXB because it's more expensive on the award chart. Just a lil quirky is all.
Fingers crossed!
I will say there's some quirks in the whole thing though. Like it seems strange to me that YYC-BKK is quoted way lower than YVR, YOW/YYZ are quoted marginally lower.
Also it's a bit funny that while my furthest destination in this case was BKK (not by much admittedly) but I PAID for DXB because it's more expensive on the award chart. Just a lil quirky is all.
May 1, 2017, 7:49 am
#205
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: YYZ, YUL, PEK
Posts: 429
Do you mean to say you paid NA-Middle East mileage, but were still subject to YVR-BKK MPM?
May 1, 2017, 10:02 pm
#206
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: YVR
Programs: OZ Diamond, Jiffypark Manhattan Gold
Posts: 4,485
I knew that going in, or at least I thought I did, but I confirmed with her over the phone. Just a little quirk. I understand the award chart isn't necessarily based just on distance, but I found it funny that I was subject to MPM for BKK and Costs for DXB.
May 1, 2017, 10:11 pm
#207
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: YVR
Programs: OZ Diamond, Jiffypark Manhattan Gold
Posts: 4,485
Don't suppose anyone has called recently and has the MPM between YVR-EZE? I'd call but I'm out of country at the moment.
BTW, the info for MPM on expertflyer...what's that good for? I checked YVR-BKK pursuant to my trip booking and the number EF gives is way off from what AP gives.
BTW, the info for MPM on expertflyer...what's that good for? I checked YVR-BKK pursuant to my trip booking and the number EF gives is way off from what AP gives.