Comments on 777HD HKG-YVR - EPIC FAIL
Dec 16, 2015, 4:46 pm
#2252
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Dec 17, 2015, 8:14 am
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J SOP different on the HD config?
Yet another trip on the HD and yet another reminder of how much I despise it.
Question: Is J SOP different on the HD config than other ML flights?
Anyway... 2016, here we come! Eventual good riddance to that POC (Piece of Crap) J product.
Shout out to all my self-righteous trollers out here!
Question: Is J SOP different on the HD config than other ML flights?
Anyway... 2016, here we come! Eventual good riddance to that POC (Piece of Crap) J product.
Shout out to all my self-righteous trollers out here!
Dec 17, 2015, 8:18 am
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Yet another trip on the HD and yet another reminder of how much I despise it.
Question: Is J SOP different on the HD config than other ML flights?
Anyway... 2016, here we come! Eventual good riddance to that POC (Piece of Crap) J product.
Shout out to all my self-righteous trollers out here!
Question: Is J SOP different on the HD config than other ML flights?
Anyway... 2016, here we come! Eventual good riddance to that POC (Piece of Crap) J product.
Shout out to all my self-righteous trollers out here!
From what I gather, SOP for crews is that they have to check their bags to make room for pax's luggage in the bins.
I believe everything else is the same, no?
Dec 17, 2015, 8:57 am
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I ask because I have been on the HD enough times to notice weird nuances with the crews. Often things like not taking meal order by status and then some SEs being told there is none of their preferred menu item remaining, the starboard aisle FA in J often reaches over G seats and also serves the D seats where the SD should be serving the D seats, double stacking of Y luggage in the J bins, etc.
This is not something I notice from flying once on the HD. I've flown enough times on this Wildebeest to notice these nuances. I could probably compile a laundry list, but I think you get the drift.
Dec 17, 2015, 9:02 am
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As I said, compared to the rest of mainline.
I ask because I have been on the HD enough times to notice weird nuances with the crews. Often things like not taking meal order by status and then some SEs being told there is none of their preferred menu item remaining, the starboard aisle FA in J often reaches over G seats and also serves the D seats where the SD should be serving the D seats, double stacking of Y luggage in the J bins, etc.
This is not something I notice from flying once on the HD. I've flown enough times on this Wildebeest to notice these nuances. I could probably compile a laundry list, but I think you get the drift.
I ask because I have been on the HD enough times to notice weird nuances with the crews. Often things like not taking meal order by status and then some SEs being told there is none of their preferred menu item remaining, the starboard aisle FA in J often reaches over G seats and also serves the D seats where the SD should be serving the D seats, double stacking of Y luggage in the J bins, etc.
This is not something I notice from flying once on the HD. I've flown enough times on this Wildebeest to notice these nuances. I could probably compile a laundry list, but I think you get the drift.
Dec 17, 2015, 9:07 am
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In general, nope. Where there are differences, it is the implementation that is different but the framework and methodology stays the same.
For example, the dreamliner seats require the aisle armrest to go down during taxi, takeoff, and landing, where as the non-HD 777s don't have such a thing. Another example is with the non-HD 777 IFE screens having to be stowed for taxi, takeoff, and landing, where with the dreamliners such a thing doesn't exist. These are just some examples out of many.
Stuff like that.
But in general the service is consistent on both types of metal.
For example, the dreamliner seats require the aisle armrest to go down during taxi, takeoff, and landing, where as the non-HD 777s don't have such a thing. Another example is with the non-HD 777 IFE screens having to be stowed for taxi, takeoff, and landing, where with the dreamliners such a thing doesn't exist. These are just some examples out of many.
Stuff like that.
But in general the service is consistent on both types of metal.
Dec 17, 2015, 9:57 am
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In general, nope. Where there are differences, it is the implementation that is different but the framework and methodology stays the same.
For example, the dreamliner seats require the aisle armrest to go down during taxi, takeoff, and landing, where as the non-HD 777s don't have such a thing. Another example is with the non-HD 777 IFE screens having to be stowed for taxi, takeoff, and landing, where with the dreamliners such a thing doesn't exist. These are just some examples out of many.
Stuff like that.
But in general the service is consistent on both types of metal.
For example, the dreamliner seats require the aisle armrest to go down during taxi, takeoff, and landing, where as the non-HD 777s don't have such a thing. Another example is with the non-HD 777 IFE screens having to be stowed for taxi, takeoff, and landing, where with the dreamliners such a thing doesn't exist. These are just some examples out of many.
Stuff like that.
But in general the service is consistent on both types of metal.
But I think that may just be the odd experience. I only fly about 1-2x a year to go see my grandma so I don't have a good sample size.
Looking forward to trying the 777HD in J though. Just so I can get the t-shirt.
Dec 17, 2015, 9:59 am
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I see. I was under the impression that the 787 was not loaded with as many goods as the 777.
But I think that may just be the odd experience. I only fly about 1-2x a year to go see my grandma so I don't have a good sample size.
Looking forward to trying the 777HD in J though. Just so I can get the t-shirt.
But I think that may just be the odd experience. I only fly about 1-2x a year to go see my grandma so I don't have a good sample size.
Looking forward to trying the 777HD in J though. Just so I can get the t-shirt.
My SOP question was regarding service, not in terms of the hardware/hard product. I just find it clumsy and lackluster on the HD compared to other mainline metal.
Dec 17, 2015, 11:18 pm
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AC!
Dec 18, 2015, 12:27 am
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Good call. Also, I'm sorry but I laughed. First time ever I've seen BDSM and AC mentioned together. BTW, 20+ comments doesn't begin to describe how some people here really feel....150+ pages, 2,200+ posts and not much love for that bird or it's current interior.
Dec 18, 2015, 8:25 am
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Dec 18, 2015, 1:15 pm
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Dec 18, 2015, 2:03 pm
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