The R Games
Jun 22, 2017, 5:20 pm
#1726
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So I just went through booking a few NA flights for tomorrow and Saturday, and not only was there tons of IKK (which highly correlates to R space), but there was tons of I space as well.
Jul 24, 2017, 12:11 pm
#1727
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: YYZ
Programs: Air Canada 50K, Marriott Gold,
Posts: 206
Question for the vets on here....have a flight coming up on 7/30, AC1114 on an E90.
Plane is pretty full at the moment: J0 C0 D0 Z0 P0 R0 Y2 B2 M1 U0 H0 Q0 V0 W0 G0 S0 T0 L0 A0 K0
The seat map shows 1 seat in J available, not sure if they are holding one back or if the last J passenger simply didn't select their seat yet. However I currently am considering waitlisting for J using eups. The only reason why I might not is if there is a chance that Y is oversold I could possibly get an Op Up and not waste credits. Although, if J is in fact full then it's all a moot point anyways.
Thoughts? Worth waitlisting for J or just roll the dice on a pretty low chance Op Up?
Plane is pretty full at the moment: J0 C0 D0 Z0 P0 R0 Y2 B2 M1 U0 H0 Q0 V0 W0 G0 S0 T0 L0 A0 K0
The seat map shows 1 seat in J available, not sure if they are holding one back or if the last J passenger simply didn't select their seat yet. However I currently am considering waitlisting for J using eups. The only reason why I might not is if there is a chance that Y is oversold I could possibly get an Op Up and not waste credits. Although, if J is in fact full then it's all a moot point anyways.
Thoughts? Worth waitlisting for J or just roll the dice on a pretty low chance Op Up?
Jul 24, 2017, 2:07 pm
#1728
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: sqrt(-united states of apologist)
Programs: *$ Green
Posts: 5,403
Question for the vets on here....have a flight coming up on 7/30, AC1114 on an E90.
Plane is pretty full at the moment: J0 C0 D0 Z0 P0 R0 Y2 B2 M1 U0 H0 Q0 V0 W0 G0 S0 T0 L0 A0 K0
The seat map shows 1 seat in J available, not sure if they are holding one back or if the last J passenger simply didn't select their seat yet. However I currently am considering waitlisting for J using eups. The only reason why I might not is if there is a chance that Y is oversold I could possibly get an Op Up and not waste credits. Although, if J is in fact full then it's all a moot point anyways.
Thoughts? Worth waitlisting for J or just roll the dice on a pretty low chance Op Up?
Plane is pretty full at the moment: J0 C0 D0 Z0 P0 R0 Y2 B2 M1 U0 H0 Q0 V0 W0 G0 S0 T0 L0 A0 K0
The seat map shows 1 seat in J available, not sure if they are holding one back or if the last J passenger simply didn't select their seat yet. However I currently am considering waitlisting for J using eups. The only reason why I might not is if there is a chance that Y is oversold I could possibly get an Op Up and not waste credits. Although, if J is in fact full then it's all a moot point anyways.
Thoughts? Worth waitlisting for J or just roll the dice on a pretty low chance Op Up?
Watch the waitlist and post all your findings here please.
Good luck.
Jul 24, 2017, 2:27 pm
#1729
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Canada's worst airport....YYJ
Programs: AC: E75K, Marriott :Titanium, National: EXEC ELITE
Posts: 596
Question for the vets on here....have a flight coming up on 7/30, AC1114 on an E90.
Plane is pretty full at the moment: J0 C0 D0 Z0 P0 R0 Y2 B2 M1 U0 H0 Q0 V0 W0 G0 S0 T0 L0 A0 K0
The seat map shows 1 seat in J available, not sure if they are holding one back or if the last J passenger simply didn't select their seat yet. However I currently am considering waitlisting for J using eups. The only reason why I might not is if there is a chance that Y is oversold I could possibly get an Op Up and not waste credits. Although, if J is in fact full then it's all a moot point anyways.
Thoughts? Worth waitlisting for J or just roll the dice on a pretty low chance Op Up?
Plane is pretty full at the moment: J0 C0 D0 Z0 P0 R0 Y2 B2 M1 U0 H0 Q0 V0 W0 G0 S0 T0 L0 A0 K0
The seat map shows 1 seat in J available, not sure if they are holding one back or if the last J passenger simply didn't select their seat yet. However I currently am considering waitlisting for J using eups. The only reason why I might not is if there is a chance that Y is oversold I could possibly get an Op Up and not waste credits. Although, if J is in fact full then it's all a moot point anyways.
Thoughts? Worth waitlisting for J or just roll the dice on a pretty low chance Op Up?
Jul 27, 2017, 11:11 am
#1730
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: YYZ
Programs: Air Canada 50K, Marriott Gold,
Posts: 206
I think your chances of an op-up are slim and none, and slim just left town. As a 35K, you're pretty much at the bottom of the ladder, and given there is only 1 seat, I'd say your chances are zero. If the flight was showing J0, and there were 4 or 5 empty seats, then maybe, but in this case, if you want the seat, better waitlist for it.
Sep 11, 2017, 3:04 pm
#1731
Join Date: Aug 2012
Programs: AC E35K, NEXUS
Posts: 4,368
I just booked a Tango red-eye of 5-ish hour duration.
My thinking was to check 12 days out when my window opens to see the R space and, if looking good, I would up-fare to Flex if the difference to lowest available flex was less than the co-pay. It currently is, but of course low flex may evaporate leaving only M.)
Is that a reasonable R-games strategy? Flex seems like throwing away $200+ at this point.
My thinking was to check 12 days out when my window opens to see the R space and, if looking good, I would up-fare to Flex if the difference to lowest available flex was less than the co-pay. It currently is, but of course low flex may evaporate leaving only M.)
Is that a reasonable R-games strategy? Flex seems like throwing away $200+ at this point.
Sep 11, 2017, 6:17 pm
#1732
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I just booked a Tango red-eye of 5-ish hour duration.
My thinking was to check 12 days out when my window opens to see the R space and, if looking good, I would up-fare to Flex if the difference to lowest available flex was less than the co-pay. It currently is, but of course low flex may evaporate leaving only M.)
Is that a reasonable R-games strategy? Flex seems like throwing away $200+ at this point.
My thinking was to check 12 days out when my window opens to see the R space and, if looking good, I would up-fare to Flex if the difference to lowest available flex was less than the co-pay. It currently is, but of course low flex may evaporate leaving only M.)
Is that a reasonable R-games strategy? Flex seems like throwing away $200+ at this point.
Sep 11, 2017, 6:21 pm
#1733
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Sep 11, 2017, 7:29 pm
#1735
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Personally, I'd pay for Flex. How have your upgrades been this year? I've been seeing more and more empty seats, crew, etc. Or in other words, hard to miss an upgrade.
Sep 11, 2017, 9:30 pm
#1736
Join Date: Aug 2012
Programs: AC E35K, NEXUS
Posts: 4,368
I've only been doing 2-credit FP e-ups, though I did get both ways TCON recently. Mr FQ had to wait to the gate to get his confirmed as a E35K, though I did get mine on the opening of my window.
I have enough credits to do one way on this but my concern was, a red-eye TCON on a Saturday night might be popular?
I have enough credits to do one way on this but my concern was, a red-eye TCON on a Saturday night might be popular?
Sep 11, 2017, 9:59 pm
#1737
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I've only been doing 2-credit FP e-ups, though I did get both ways TCON recently. Mr FQ had to wait to the gate to get his confirmed as a E35K, though I did get mine on the opening of my window.
I have enough credits to do one way on this but my concern was, a red-eye TCON on a Saturday night might be popular?
I have enough credits to do one way on this but my concern was, a red-eye TCON on a Saturday night might be popular?
This Saturday, 126 is R1, 128 is R2, and 308 is R5 right now.
Flex prices will only go up, which is why I think the <$200 is worth it if you know you want to upgrade.
Sep 12, 2017, 7:04 am
#1738
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You'd typically get a packed flight if one of the redeyes that same night goes IROP/cancelled and they don't add a section for the canceled flight.
Sep 12, 2017, 7:41 am
#1739
Join Date: Aug 2012
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Thanks for the voice of experience. That is very useful info!
Update: while I was preparing to communicate with AC to up-fare, received a 15% discount code email from Amex valid for Flex, so I was able to cancel and book new reservation for a net increase of $75. That is worth it, like buying 1000 miles for $75 plus a chance of upgrade for 10 eUps that would otherwise expire.
Update: while I was preparing to communicate with AC to up-fare, received a 15% discount code email from Amex valid for Flex, so I was able to cancel and book new reservation for a net increase of $75. That is worth it, like buying 1000 miles for $75 plus a chance of upgrade for 10 eUps that would otherwise expire.
Last edited by flyquiet; Sep 12, 2017 at 8:38 am Reason: update
Sep 12, 2017, 11:57 am
#1740
Join Date: Jan 2016
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Thanks for the voice of experience. That is very useful info!
Update: while I was preparing to communicate with AC to up-fare, received a 15% discount code email from Amex valid for Flex, so I was able to cancel and book new reservation for a net increase of $75. That is worth it, like buying 1000 miles for $75 plus a chance of upgrade for 10 eUps that would otherwise expire.
Update: while I was preparing to communicate with AC to up-fare, received a 15% discount code email from Amex valid for Flex, so I was able to cancel and book new reservation for a net increase of $75. That is worth it, like buying 1000 miles for $75 plus a chance of upgrade for 10 eUps that would otherwise expire.
