The R Games
Apr 28, 2017, 6:10 pm
#1696
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Actually, RM = Revenue Management (anything related to filing of fares, allocation of fare class availability, releasing upgrade and award space, clearing pax off the upgrade list before the day of departure etc.)
May 1, 2017, 2:00 pm
#1697
Join Date: Feb 2005
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I think "those who want to fly in J..." vary dramatically by route.
There are at least a couple of us who would not pay cash or upgrade credits for even a domestic or TB transcon. I know what I get on those flights and I have my own determination of the value proposition.
Also, there are those who would prefer to use their upgrades for longer routes or for travel with spouse/partner, whatever.
As for paying for J on TB, I'm perfectly happy paying AA $725 CAD RT for J on the non-stop YYZ-MIA (which is the rate I'm seeing from now on out for a number of months).
AC rouge, OTOH, sits at $1,321.
For those who want to accumulate AC miles towards whatever their goal is (AQM, MM), feel free to pay the $1,321.
My guess is AC has determined that there are just enough people will to pay for the front of the rouge bus to MIA, for e.g. either with cash or upgrades, that they do not see AA non-stop - or others with one-stop - as viable competition.
There are at least a couple of us who would not pay cash or upgrade credits for even a domestic or TB transcon. I know what I get on those flights and I have my own determination of the value proposition.
Also, there are those who would prefer to use their upgrades for longer routes or for travel with spouse/partner, whatever.
As for paying for J on TB, I'm perfectly happy paying AA $725 CAD RT for J on the non-stop YYZ-MIA (which is the rate I'm seeing from now on out for a number of months).
AC rouge, OTOH, sits at $1,321.
For those who want to accumulate AC miles towards whatever their goal is (AQM, MM), feel free to pay the $1,321.
My guess is AC has determined that there are just enough people will to pay for the front of the rouge bus to MIA, for e.g. either with cash or upgrades, that they do not see AA non-stop - or others with one-stop - as viable competition.
Last edited by Clipper801; May 1, 2017 at 3:55 pm
May 2, 2017, 10:23 am
#1699
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I'm not sure why you're surprised. It doesn't exactly look wide open in J.
As SE, you may get cleared off the waitlist well before the flight.
As SE, you may get cleared off the waitlist well before the flight.
May 2, 2017, 7:54 pm
#1700
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May 13, 2017, 7:13 am
#1701
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AC 750 on May 12 had 10 of 16 seats occupied by upgrades.
I booked IKK 2 hours prior to departure.
Yet AC 739 tomorrow (May 14) is J9 P8 R0.
The upgrade lists have sure made the R games more interesting
I booked IKK 2 hours prior to departure.
Yet AC 739 tomorrow (May 14) is J9 P8 R0.
The upgrade lists have sure made the R games more interesting
May 13, 2017, 7:44 am
#1702
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Can anyone pull up the fare bucket availability for AC607 and AC785 on June 16th? I know its a month away, but it seems a little odd that AC website is already showing R=0 for both flights when previewing upgrade availability.
May 13, 2017, 8:17 am
#1703
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YHZ 16/06/17 7:00
YYZ 16/06/17 8:22
321
J9 C9 D9 Z9 P9 R9 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 G9 S9 T9 L9 A9 K9
AC 785
YYZ 16/06/17 10:00
LAX 16/06/17 12:20
321
J9 C9 D9 Z7 P4 R4 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 G9 S9 T9 L9 A9 K4
Both have R space.
May 13, 2017, 2:19 pm
#1704
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Thanks. Looks like the AC website isn't showing upgrade availability correctly. Hoping these flights don't fill up too much.
May 13, 2017, 5:17 pm
#1705
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May 14, 2017, 8:27 pm
#1707
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AC 739 YYZ-SFO departed full in Y and with 2 empties in J today.
It was J8 R7 Y0 when I woke up (R0 when I went to bed).
Worked out well for me, but wow. I've been 10th for 1 seat on this flight before the eUp devaluation.
It was J8 R7 Y0 when I woke up (R0 when I went to bed).
Worked out well for me, but wow. I've been 10th for 1 seat on this flight before the eUp devaluation.
May 17, 2017, 6:16 pm
#1710
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