The R Games
Dec 9, 2016, 11:12 am
#1621
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Here's a thought: load-based pricing of eUpgrades
If a flight is J9C9D9Z9P9R9 4 hours before departure (yes, I've seen this), don't charge the regular 10 eUps. Charge 5.
If it's J1C0..., charge 15.
If a flight is J9C9D9Z9P9R9 4 hours before departure (yes, I've seen this), don't charge the regular 10 eUps. Charge 5.
If it's J1C0..., charge 15.
Dec 9, 2016, 3:36 pm
#1622
Join Date: Jan 2016
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Not bad for some nice year end dumping
Dec 9, 2016, 5:02 pm
#1623
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Also, they'd need to be able to set some reserve floor. I've been on international flights with not-full J cabins, which means a 1 credit bid could win.
Dec 10, 2016, 8:47 am
#1624
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Dec 10, 2016, 2:51 pm
#1625
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That suggestion was the former
I mean if they can't even make their website work after a year...
Dec 11, 2016, 8:05 am
#1626
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C'mon, give them a break ... websites are complicated, they require electrons & thought & effort ...
Dec 13, 2016, 3:05 pm
#1627
Join Date: Apr 2007
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It would totally disrupt any attempt of planning one's eUps use throughout the year. My Excel file would catch fire from being manipulated too often... no pre-visibility.
OMG, that *is* hell
Dec 13, 2016, 3:06 pm
#1628
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Book on an empty flight, you save $. Book on a full flight, it costs more $.
Dec 13, 2016, 4:33 pm
#1629
Join Date: Apr 2007
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(to tell you how much I can plan ahead, that run was planned in June, and the eUps allocated then)
I'm aware my situation is not the normal (but who's is on this board
)
Dec 13, 2016, 7:25 pm
#1630
Join Date: Nov 2011
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Ok, so I'm trying to buy a Lat fare YUL-YYZ-FRA-PRG for this weekend.
Website says YYZ-FRA is available for upgrade. When I check for YUL-YYZ-FRA-PRG on EF, the YYZ-FRA segment is J4Z2P3, so it matches what AC.com is saying. But I when I check for just YYZ-FRA I get J4Z4P0.
I hate this married segment logic!
I have the feeling once I buy it then try to upgrade I won't be able to and I'll be screwed. Any ideas? I guess I could just buy it and refund since it's Latitude but I wanted to get an opinion from someone who's actually experienced this before.
Website says YYZ-FRA is available for upgrade. When I check for YUL-YYZ-FRA-PRG on EF, the YYZ-FRA segment is J4Z2P3, so it matches what AC.com is saying. But I when I check for just YYZ-FRA I get J4Z4P0.
I hate this married segment logic!
I have the feeling once I buy it then try to upgrade I won't be able to and I'll be screwed. Any ideas? I guess I could just buy it and refund since it's Latitude but I wanted to get an opinion from someone who's actually experienced this before.
Dec 13, 2016, 7:34 pm
#1631
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Ok, so I'm trying to buy a Lat fare YUL-YYZ-FRA-PRG for this weekend.
Website says YYZ-FRA is available for upgrade. When I check for YUL-YYZ-FRA-PRG on EF, the YYZ-FRA segment is J4Z2P3, so it matches what AC.com is saying. But I when I check for just YYZ-FRA I get J4Z4P0.
I hate this married segment logic!
I have the feeling once I buy it then try to upgrade I won't be able to and I'll be screwed. Any ideas? I guess I could just buy it and refund since it's Latitude but I wanted to get an opinion from someone who's actually experienced this before.
Website says YYZ-FRA is available for upgrade. When I check for YUL-YYZ-FRA-PRG on EF, the YYZ-FRA segment is J4Z2P3, so it matches what AC.com is saying. But I when I check for just YYZ-FRA I get J4Z4P0.
I hate this married segment logic!
I have the feeling once I buy it then try to upgrade I won't be able to and I'll be screwed. Any ideas? I guess I could just buy it and refund since it's Latitude but I wanted to get an opinion from someone who's actually experienced this before.
Dec 13, 2016, 8:22 pm
#1632
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My suspicion is you won't be able to upgrade, but my suspicion is also that you have a non-zero chance of convincing a phone agent that "there's P space, therefore I deserve an upgrade".
Or "the booking page shows a blue 'upgrade available' box, therefore I deserve an upgrade".
Or "the booking page shows a blue 'upgrade available' box, therefore I deserve an upgrade".
Dec 13, 2016, 8:27 pm
#1633
Join Date: Nov 2011
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My suspicion is you won't be able to upgrade, but my suspicion is also that you have a non-zero chance of convincing a phone agent that "there's P space, therefore I deserve an upgrade".
Or "the booking page shows a blue 'upgrade available' box, therefore I deserve an upgrade".
Or "the booking page shows a blue 'upgrade available' box, therefore I deserve an upgrade".
Dec 13, 2016, 9:05 pm
#1634
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It's also possible that the married segment availability that EF displays is wrong. I had something a few weeks ago where I was trying to book flights that had availability in P on EF but that had no P according to AC reservations, even after confirming with the resource desk and ticketing. Meanwhile, one of the flights showed P0 on EF on an individual segment but supposedly had P1 according to AC.
Or vice versa, I forget. Either way, EF was not matching AC's systems for availability of P.
Worth a phone call, I think.
Or vice versa, I forget. Either way, EF was not matching AC's systems for availability of P.
Worth a phone call, I think.
Dec 21, 2016, 4:31 pm
#1635
Join Date: Mar 2013
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Hi all -
I'm booked in PY (E class) from YYZ --> EZE, and put in for an eupgrade at almost exactly T-5 days. As expected, I'm waitlisted.
Current inventory according to expertflyer: J8, R0
Any thoughts on the odds of this clearing? I'm 50K, and this trip will put me to 75K for the year.
Cheers,
/a
I'm booked in PY (E class) from YYZ --> EZE, and put in for an eupgrade at almost exactly T-5 days. As expected, I'm waitlisted.
Current inventory according to expertflyer: J8, R0
Any thoughts on the odds of this clearing? I'm 50K, and this trip will put me to 75K for the year.
Cheers,
/a