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alwaysflyingLA Mar 27, 2022 7:08 pm


Originally Posted by dkc192 (Post 34112520)
Do you remember if the EWR-LAX aircraft had a separate PE cabin at the time you booked? I suspect it didn't, which is how you ended up in B instead of R. There could have then been an aircraft swap to one with a PE cabin, and UA's system isn't properly recognizing this and allowing you to apply PlusPoints to upgrade to PE.

I'd suggest calling in and asking to be rebooked into R on EWR-LAX, without needing any PlusPoints, on account of you having booked a PE fare and PE now being available for sale. You can then apply 30 PlusPoints to waitlist/upgrade the entire CDG-LAX itinerary to J if you'd like.

It does have PE on a 789 -no AC swap here. I was purposedly booking in B instead of R since the difference is about $500 ow. Google Flights or Multi-destination search with UA seem to be able to construct this way with no issues.


Originally Posted by cfischer (Post 34112528)
correct and if R is not available as a fare class then they can waitlist that segment for R. That said, I don't think you can waitlist for R and at the same time add +Ps to waitlist for PZ

Seems to be case: If you are in PE for an international leg and in regular E for a domestic leg (in the fare construction of intl+domestic connections), you cannot WL for PZ for the domestic leg.

wcj1 Apr 5, 2022 7:26 pm

I have PlusPoints upgrades waitlisted for LAX-EWR on the way to Europe and IAD-LAX on the way back, but the 2 segments look different. Do I care?

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...bd55ad0847.png
This one only shows the Economy segment.


https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...f60d98b289.png
This one shows the Economy segment and the waitlisted First segment.

Also, I had put in upgrades before, but I had schedule changes and ended up changing my ticket twice. It was 40+40 before, total = 80. Now it says I have 160 in outstanding requests, so it is still counting my original segments that I am no longer booked on. Do I need to worry about that?

Kmxu Apr 5, 2022 8:04 pm


Originally Posted by wcj1 (Post 34140623)
I have PlusPoints upgrades waitlisted for LAX-EWR on the way to Europe and IAD-LAX on the way back, but the 2 segments look different. Do I care?

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...bd55ad0847.png
This one only shows the Economy segment.


https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...f60d98b289.png
This one shows the Economy segment and the waitlisted First segment.

Also, I had put in upgrades before, but I had schedule changes and ended up changing my ticket twice. It was 40+40 before, total = 80. Now it says I have 160 in outstanding requests, so it is still counting my original segments that I am no longer booked on. Do I need to worry about that?

No. Do not worry about it. UA is famous for inconsistencies. The PlusPoints are only deducted if you get upgrade. You cannot get upgrades for the flight that is not on your reservation.

Good luck!

misterfuss Apr 7, 2022 11:15 pm

SFO-EWR-BOS Plus Points Question
 
Good evening FT community,

I have searched the forums but couldn't see any posts that answered my question. I have booked redeye flights SFO-EWR-BOS to waitlist for the lie flat seats on the transcon and applied Plus Points for the upgrade. It showed the Plus Points for the SFO-EWR flight and showed the EWR-BOS Plus Points as included. (Both flights are currently waitlisted for the upgrade.) What happens if I clear the EWR-BOS flight and not the SFO-EWR flight? I am totally okay to fly coach for the short haul flight if I don't get the transcon upgrade but I don't want to burn my Plus Points for a short flight.

Thanks for your assistance.

misterfuss

WineCountryUA Apr 7, 2022 11:26 pm


Originally Posted by misterfuss (Post 34147126)
Good evening FT community,

I have searched the forums but couldn't see any posts that answered my question. I have booked redeye flights SFO-EWR-BOS to waitlist for the lie flat seats on the transcon and applied Plus Points for the upgrade. It showed the Plus Points for the SFO-EWR flight and showed the EWR-BOS Plus Points as included. (Both flights are currently waitlisted for the upgrade.) What happens if I clear the EWR-BOS flight and not the SFO-EWR flight? I am totally okay to fly coach for the short haul flight if I don't get the transcon upgrade but I don't want to burn my Plus Points for a short flight.

Thanks for your assistance.

misterfuss

Either flight clearing will be 20 PlusPoints, if both clear, it will be the highest amount for all segments, 20 PlusPoints in this case

So if BOS-EWR only clears it will be 20 PlusPoints,

https://mileageplusupdates.com/milea...ct-your-points

Kmxu Apr 8, 2022 1:15 am


Originally Posted by WineCountryUA (Post 34147143)
Either flight clearing will be 20 PlusPoints, if both clear, it will be the highest amount for all segments, 20 PlusPoints in this case

So if BOS-EWR only clears it will be 20 PlusPoints,

https://mileageplusupdates.com/milea...ct-your-points

Same day change to another EWR-BOS flight in economy if EWR-BOS clears but the other does not. You will get 20 PPs back.

econ Apr 8, 2022 3:12 am


Originally Posted by Kmxu (Post 34147289)
Same day change to another EWR-BOS flight in economy if EWR-BOS clears but the other does not. You will get 20 PPs back.

And if fare class is available, SDC right back onto original flight.

misterfuss Apr 9, 2022 12:46 am


Originally Posted by WineCountryUA (Post 34147143)
Either flight clearing will be 20 PlusPoints, if both clear, it will be the highest amount for all segments, 20 PlusPoints in this case

So if BOS-EWR only clears it will be 20 PlusPoints,

https://mileageplusupdates.com/milea...ct-your-points

Thank you for your insight. Any thoughts on a strategy? Obviously, I would want the upgrade on both segments but wouldn’t want to burn the Plus Points on only the short haul flight.

Kmxu Apr 9, 2022 4:01 am


Originally Posted by misterfuss (Post 34150208)
Thank you for your insight. Any thoughts on a strategy? Obviously, I would want the upgrade on both segments but wouldn’t want to burn the Plus Points on only the short haul flight.

Just remove the existing request and reapply the PPs on LAX-EWR only. You may get CPU on EWR-BOS anyway. If PZ space is available for LAX-EWR at request, PPs will be applied to both segments.

kb1992 Apr 11, 2022 9:59 am


Originally Posted by ajhun9 (Post 34065712)
Is anyone else having trouble waitlisting for upgrades with PP? I'm GS on an award ticket. My itineraries say they are not available for upgrade when i click the link to upgrade. I tried calling yesterday and the agent said there was an issue with the system. Tried again today and no dice again. These points are beyond useless.

I have never had a trouble to use PP to upgrade mileage tickets.

It's a huge benefit for GS.

jamienbaker Apr 11, 2022 10:35 am


Originally Posted by ajhun9 (Post 34065712)
Is anyone else having trouble waitlisting for upgrades with PP? I'm GS on an award ticket. My itineraries say they are not available for upgrade when i click the link to upgrade. I tried calling yesterday and the agent said there was an issue with the system. Tried again today and no dice again. These points are beyond useless.

1) ticket has to be issued, and 2) the award has to be drawn from the same account as those of the PP. Meaning, if you booked the award using your spouse’s account, you can’t apply YOUR PP.

i’m guessing you knew this but it tripped me up a year or two ago so I just thought I would throw it out there.

nomad420 Apr 11, 2022 1:17 pm


Originally Posted by Kmxu (Post 34150419)
Just remove the existing request and reapply the PPs on LAX-EWR only. You may get CPU on EWR-BOS anyway. If PZ space is available for LAX-EWR at request, PPs will be applied to both segments.

This is the best way to go and I do this often. I have also Just refused the upgrade at the gate when it was obvious I wasn't going to get the upgrade on the long run. They will "re-bank" your PPs.

kohswisscheese Apr 16, 2022 4:50 am

Recently tried to apply PlusPoints to upgrade EWR-LAX-SFO-NRT with a long 20hr layover in LAX. United.com was showing that this would require two separate PlusPoints requests, one for EWR-LAX (up to 20 pps) and another for LAX-SFO-NRT (up to 40 pps). I had thought it would just be a 40 pp request, and past GPUs would be applied the whole way.

Called in and agent checked with a supervisor who said that because it's between two domestic flights, the long layover counts as a stopover.

Just to confirm with the hivemind here, is this correct? T&C states: Stopovers require additional PlusPoints. A stopover for a single, one-way trip within the U.S. or between the U.S. and Canada is defined as longer than 4 hours in the connecting city. A stopover for a single, one-way trip to or from all other destinations is defined as longer than 24 hours in the connecting city.

findark Apr 16, 2022 7:14 am

If you have a single fare component between EWR and NRT, then it is fared as a transfer in LAX and not a stopover. Per the letter of the policy, it should be one instrument.

However, the UA computer has always had its own concept of "breaks" in an itinerary that is completely separate. It generally coincides with when baggage will be automatically short-checked - can't find the thread on this but IIRC it's something like 14h00 or overnight, regardless of fare.

The practical rule has always been that the computer will allow a single certificate to be applied up to the next "break" (nb. that this can be across a stopover or fare break, and even to both legs of a simple round-trip if the time in destination is short enough), and that any variation from this requires a human to do a manual override, so it's a HUCA/YMMV situation. However, yes, the agent "should" be willing to do this for 40 points - my record was a single GPU applied across three overnight transfers on the same fare component :)

Xyzzy Apr 19, 2022 9:03 am

In the Before Times, when SWUs were the upgrade instrument for these things, a break of m:ore than 12hrs was considered a stopover and additional SWUs were needed.


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