Thanks for the reply and all of the details. Unfortunately our flights to Europe are 764's, so no premium economy, but this helps regardless.

Longer flight upgraded, can I get the short flight upgraded?
 

I am flying MTJ-DEN-TPA. I request only a PP upgrade on DEN-TPA so that I didn't burn 20 on a short flight. DEN-TPA has now cleared, but no upgrade option exists on the MTJ-DEN flight. Any idea if it's possible to request an upgrade on MTJ-DEN without using more PP? The FAQ indicates if Polaris has upgraded then the domestic would cost more PP, not sure since this is all domestic.

I don't want to call in until I have an idea of the possibilities.

Thanks

What plane is flying MTJ-DEN? How long is the flight as an intra-state route? Is it really worth more PPs? If you do have more PPs either as a Plat or 1K, your FT status shows UA MM Gold so unclear how many more PPs you might have and why it is so important to upgrade MTJ-DEN. If already a 1K, what's your upgrade percentage on MTJ-DEN?

David

I'm UA 1K, will have to fix that. I've already used 20 PP to upgrade the DEN-TPA leg of the flight, why would I need to use more to upgrade the MTJ portion? If that's the case I sure won't bother upgrading but in the old days of RPU if the long flight got upgraded you could call in to get the short one waitlisted\upgraded. Is that not the case any more?

Your understanding is correct. 20 additional points will be deducted if you want to upgrade the short segment.

When you had first submitted PP for the ticket, did you select both segments or just the segment between DEN and TPA? If both segments have F, are upgradable, on one ticket, and with less than 4 hours of connection, then you would need only 20 PP for both segments (I often do this is I am traveling on transcon and turning around within a few hours - 20 PP for 10 hrs+.

However, since you have already submitted the segment between DEN and TPA, addition upgrade request requires additional PP submission.

Note: PP <> RPU

David

As others have mentioned, this has changed from RPU/GPU days. Below is how UA states this

I only selected the "long" flight since I didn't want to burn 20 PP for just a 45 minute flight. I used to do this with a RPU and then they could add me to the waitlist for the short flight. Seems like that won't work any more!


Thanks, I did read that in the FAQ but because the example was Polaris I didn't know if it also applied to all domestic flights.

I've since learned that in some cases a refund can be requested if only the "short" flight is upgraded. Any ideas on success of this? I don't want to risk losing 20 PP on a 45 minute flight but by the same token I'd like to be on the upgrade list with an instrument if possible. At the end of the day it isn't a huge deal.

I realize they aren't the same but the PP did replace the RPU so it isn't out of the question to think they behave the same. Turns out they don't exactly but isn't that why this forum is here, to ask questions?

It sure is, and it would appear you even got some answers too! 🤪

Good luck with the CPU — looks like MTJ-DEN can be a little bit competitive depending on day and time. I will say from my experience the +P aren't often determinative for getting the upgrade on domestic CPU-eligible routes. Either you would have cleared by CPU anyway, or you're still far from clearing with +P. So even if you could get the request extended as formerly, at most it would probably only help with seat selection.

Where did you learn that from? No, you will not get a refund if only the short segment is upgraded.

With the change to PPs, one has to be a bit careful with multi-segment upgrade request. If the long segment is not available at booking (and one really wants it), it's best to apply the PPs SOLELY on that segment.

I've had it happen multiple times, but it's not spelled out in rules anywhere that I know of, so I wouldn't rely on it.

Evidence of refunds here if the short leg didn't clear: https://www.reddit.com/r/unitedairli...ment_not_long/

I have only been applying my PP to the long segments, I am just trying to understand what my options are to get better priority on the short flight since I used an instrument on the long haul.

Thanks. I am not exactly concerned if I don't get upgraded on that flight, I am just trying to get the most bang for my buck is all.

UA will take your bucks. And yen. And pounds. Plus Points - eh.

David