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Kmxu May 5, 2022 6:44 pm


Originally Posted by david_oz (Post 34224807)
just to clarify, the route is LAX-SYD-LAX, and I don't want to spend more than 100 plus points on the trip (ie. business class in one direction, premium economy in the other).

I think both flights have a good chance of being upgraded to PY. The outbound flight looks like it has very little chance of being upgraded to J, and the return flight seems to have a good chance. So my first instinct is to apply 20 plus points to waitlist the outbound for PY, and 80 to waitlist the return for PY and J

But what happens if a couple of days before the outbound, I check the reservation and the upgrade list is short and there are lots of empty seats. I guess if the upgrade to PY hasn't cleared then I can just remove it and reapply. But if it has cleared, then what? Is there an option to waitlist for the extra 60 plus points?

The best feature of PPs is that you can request upgrade for as many flights as you want. If I were you, I would request both PP and Polaris cabins for both directions to see what would happen. You will have a higher chance to get Polaris cabin, at least, once.

To your question, you will have to call CS agent to find it out. You cannot request Polaris and Premium+ cabins on two separate times on web.

VegasGambler May 5, 2022 10:31 pm

I'm sure that this has already been asked and answered in this thread but it's really long and search doesn't work very well.

If I apply PlusPoints to a domestic (CPU eligible, 2 cabin) flight and it clears, what are my SDC options? Does my SDC move me into F or Y? If I move into Y (if possible) do I get my points back?

WineCountryUA May 5, 2022 11:03 pm


Originally Posted by VegasGambler (Post 34225490)
... If I apply PlusPoints to a domestic (CPU eligible, 2 cabin) flight and it clears, what are my SDC options? Does my SDC move me into F or Y? If I move into Y (if possible) do I get my points back?

The upgrade does not transfer, the PlusPoints will be returned

Winkdaddy May 6, 2022 10:40 am


Originally Posted by WineCountryUA (Post 34202381)
Believe that is considered a settled issue, they retain the elite's status. There may have been a time it was not 100% but it seems have been straighten out, even for the return. There may be some corner cases, like ticket re-issue after irrops after a split otherwise recent reports have been favorable.

I understand splitting it to help myself upgrade on B fare ORD-SFO since companions do not qualify for instant upgrade. But does splitting also somehow increase our chances of an upgrade on SFO-SIN using PP as well??

(Curiously the system would not let me apply PP to the ORD-SFO leg..it said "not available". I could only apply on the SFO-SIN leg)

WineCountryUA May 6, 2022 10:50 am


Originally Posted by Winkdaddy (Post 34226798)
I understand splitting it to help myself upgrade on B fare ORD-SFO since companions do not qualify for instant upgrade. But does splitting also somehow increase our chances of an upgrade on SFO-SIN using PP as well?? ....

If willing to accept just one upgrade, perhaps


Originally Posted by Winkdaddy (Post 34226798)
(Curiously the system would not let me apply PP to the ORD-SFO leg..it said "not available". ,,,

That's good, because PPs can hurt your upgrade chances on a true B fare for GS and 1Ks

cfischer May 6, 2022 10:52 am


Originally Posted by Winkdaddy (Post 34226798)
I understand splitting it to help myself upgrade on B fare ORD-SFO since companions do not qualify for instant upgrade. But does splitting also somehow increase our chances of an upgrade on SFO-SIN using PP as well??

(Curiously the system would not let me apply PP to the ORD-SFO leg..it said "not available". I could only apply on the SFO-SIN leg)

it does, because you only need PZ1 to clear 1 of you. With 2 pax on 1 PNR you need PZ2 to clear both ... so that does help, but you could end up with only 1 upgraded in the end.

Winkdaddy May 6, 2022 11:04 am


Originally Posted by cfischer (Post 34226826)
it does, because you only need PZ1 to clear 1 of you. With 2 pax on 1 PNR you need PZ2 to clear both ... so that does help, but you could end up with only 1 upgraded in the end.

Interesting. So if I dont split it then we could be "skipped"? For example if currently we are number 1/2 on the invisible list...but UA releases PZ1...it skips us, and goes to whoever is 3rd? Then if they keep releasing seats one at a time, it would skip us constantly until the system releases two seats at once which would then finally upgrade us theoretically?

huey_driver May 6, 2022 11:26 am

Trying to understand my success today.
I am 1K and a week ago I applied points to a flight, 2 empty left in J and moved from #7 to #2.
I cancelled the +P upgrade yesterday to see how much the cash upgrade would be, and never put them back on.
This morning, about 6 hours before departure, still J2 and when I went to apply the points again, the flight showed "One Seat Left".
As soon as I applied the points, I got the confirmation that I had been upgraded. I didnt get a chance to look at the buckets before I put it in.

It looks like I jumped over #1, because I had been #2 even with +P applied?
Is there a fare bucket that would show an "instant confirmation" (PZ?)?

I'm assuming it may be a GS (same name is still there) and I just landed at #2 in front of the 1Ks but dont know how I got confirmed at T-6h

elitefreak May 6, 2022 2:09 pm

Double waitlisting?
 
Don't see this on the wiki. Booked EWR-SEA with paid economy and waitlisted for FC with miles. Can I also add Pluspoints upgrade/waitlist? I would prefer to use the latter but how will the system handle this? The wiki says that mileage upgrade and Pluspoints are considered equal.

Thanks!

WineCountryUA May 6, 2022 3:06 pm


Originally Posted by elitefreak (Post 34227442)
... Booked EWR-SEA with paid economy and waitlisted for FC with miles. Can I also add Pluspoints upgrade/waitlist? I would prefer to use the latter but how will the system handle this? ...

Cancel the present waitlist and then apply the PlusPoints, can not do both


Originally Posted by elitefreak (Post 34227442)
... The wiki says that mileage upgrade and PlusPoints are considered equal. ...

Correct, although you will have a new time of request., a minor factor in prioritization

evol May 7, 2022 5:29 am

i’m very annoyed and confused
 
I was booked on 363 on 5/10 in PremiumP waitlisted for F. Made a change to 5/12 (couldn’t do this online said there were no flights and it took the phone agent a really long time to complete the change) paid $315 more.

Here’s the thing, i’m unable to list for an upgrade and neither can a phone agent list me for an upgrade using plus points or miles(!) Nothing she could do, ended up on the phone for 2 hours.

Maddening, they had no answer they just kept saying a Premium Plus seat is not eligible for upgrade on this route.

“The flight you just took me off I was waitlisted for an upgrade, same route”

”I know sir”

insane. I gave up.

Winkdaddy May 7, 2022 8:04 am


Originally Posted by WineCountryUA (Post 34202381)
Believe that is considered a settled issue, they retain the elite's status. There may have been a time it was not 100% but it seems have been straighten out, even for the return. There may be some corner cases, like ticket re-issue after irrops after a split otherwise recent reports have been favorable.

Its interesting, when I called the 1K line they told me that if I split the ticket, my companion will lose 1K status. The agent had to look it up but she read something like if a 1K sponsers someone elses upgrade with PP on a separate ticket then that person's status applies. (I tend to believe the experts on this forum over UA agents though!:D)

jsloan May 7, 2022 10:33 am


Originally Posted by Winkdaddy (Post 34229108)
Its interesting, when I called the 1K line they told me that if I split the ticket, my companion will lose 1K status. The agent had to look it up but she read something like if a 1K sponsers someone elses upgrade with PP on a separate ticket then that person's status applies. (I tend to believe the experts on this forum over UA agents though!:D)

If you book a flight for someone else, their status applies. If you split a reservation where you were previously together, your status applies.

Winkdaddy May 7, 2022 10:46 am


Originally Posted by jsloan (Post 34229478)
If you book a flight for someone else, their status applies. If you split a reservation where you were previously together, your status applies.

Ahhh, I see. Thanks for clarifying

elitefreak May 7, 2022 3:11 pm


Originally Posted by WineCountryUA (Post 34227611)
Cancel the present waitlist and then apply the PlusPoints, can not do both

How do I cancel a mileage upgrade waitlist to apply the Plus points waitlist?


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