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DELee Apr 20, 2022 12:19 am


Originally Posted by Xyzzy (Post 34177561)
In the Before Times, when SWUs were the upgrade instrument for these things, a break of m:ore than 12hrs was considered a stopover and additional SWUs were needed.

Wasn't that the Before Before Times? (before PPs and before no flying for the CV19 years)

David

Xyzzy Apr 20, 2022 6:37 am

FWIW, we've got an international trip that includes a ~23 hr connection at EWR. It's 40 PPPP (Plus Points per pers:)n) for the Europe->US journey. No extra PP were deducted for the domestic segment.

kohswisscheese Apr 20, 2022 7:08 am


Originally Posted by Xyzzy (Post 34180602)
FWIW, we've got an international trip that includes a ~23 hr connection at EWR. It's 40 PPPP (Plus Points per pers:)n) for the Europe->US journey. No extra PP were deducted for the domestic segment.

Did united.com allow this? To update, I ended up rebooking via DEN so that my first domestic flight could be CPU'ed without PlusPoints. I did ask about including LGA to DEN using the same PlusPoints request, but the agent said the system didn't allow it and I didn't push the issue.

Xyzzy Apr 20, 2022 7:13 am


Originally Posted by kohswisscheese (Post 34180708)
Did united.com allow this? To update, I ended up rebooking via DEN so that my first domestic flight could be CPU'ed without PlusPoints. I did ask about including LGA to DEN using the same PlusPoints request, but the agent said the system didn't allow it and I didn't push the issue.

When I tried to book using the web site I had to put AAA->EWR, EWR-BBB as two segments to get the flights I wanted and for it to price out as a connection. But it wanted 40 + 20 PP for the upgrade so I didn't bother. But -- we had to call in just to ticket (tried to use FFC and that caused problems) and the agent offered that because it was a connection on an international ticket I shouldn't have to use extra PP for the d:pmestic segment. So far it's listed that way with only 40 PP requested. Whether the upgrade clears like that remains to be seen...

JimInOhio Apr 20, 2022 7:29 am


Originally Posted by kohswisscheese (Post 34169438)
Recently tried to apply PlusPoints to upgrade EWR-LAX-SFO-NRT with a long 20hr layover in LAX. United.com was showing that this would require two separate PlusPoints requests, one for EWR-LAX (up to 20 pps) and another for LAX-SFO-NRT (up to 40 pps). I had thought it would just be a 40 pp request, and past GPUs would be applied the whole way.

Called in and agent checked with a supervisor who said that because it's between two domestic flights, the long layover counts as a stopover.

Just to confirm with the hivemind here, is this correct? T&C states: Stopovers require additional PlusPoints. A stopover for a single, one-way trip within the U.S. or between the U.S. and Canada is defined as longer than 4 hours in the connecting city. A stopover for a single, one-way trip to or from all other destinations is defined as longer than 24 hours in the connecting city.

That sounds more like a stopover in LAX and not a connection per se. Over the course of 20 hours, there must be at least one possible connecting flight if not more that is being skipped in the itinerary.

kohswisscheese Apr 20, 2022 8:16 am


Originally Posted by Xyzzy (Post 34180728)
When I tried to book using the web site I had to put AAA->EWR, EWR-BBB as two segments to get the flights I wanted and for it to price out as a connection. But it wanted 40 + 20 PP for the upgrade so I didn't bother. But -- we had to call in just to ticket (tried to use FFC and that caused problems) and the agent offered that because it was a connection on an international ticket I shouldn't have to use extra PP for the d:pmestic segment. So far it's listed that way with only 40 PP requested. Whether the upgrade clears like that remains to be seen...

Thanks for the info! Sounds like a YMMV situation. Fingers crossed that it'll clear.


Originally Posted by JimInOhio (Post 34180773)
That sounds more like a stopover in LAX and not a connection per se. Over the course of 20 hours, there must be at least one possible connecting flight if not more that is being skipped in the itinerary.

There are certainly other possible flights, but the T&C states that layovers of under 24 hours on an international ticket are connections and not stopovers. One possibility is that the system was confused as it was EWR-LAX-SFO-NRT versus EWR-LAX-NRT. I've had no issue applying single PlusPoint upgrades for long domestic layovers on international tickets (e.g. SIN-SFO-EWR) with long layovers (e.g. 12-13 hours). Another possibility is that it crosses calendar days.

JimInOhio Apr 20, 2022 8:25 am


Originally Posted by kohswisscheese (Post 34180907)
Thanks for the info! Sounds like a YMMV situation. Fingers crossed that it'll clear.

There are certainly other possible flights, but the T&C states that layovers of under 24 hours on an international ticket are connections and not stopovers. One possibility is that the system was confused as it was EWR-LAX-SFO-NRT versus EWR-LAX-NRT. I've had no issue applying single PlusPoint upgrades for long domestic layovers on international tickets (e.g. SIN-SFO-EWR) with long layovers (e.g. 12-13 hours). Another possibility is that it crosses calendar days.

It might be a question of definitions. I always assumed the 24 hour rule applied to an international connection, not more broadly to an international reservation. UA's computers might be considering your connection at LAX as domestic.

mpiotrow Apr 22, 2022 5:49 pm

Question about using PPs…I’m 1K, and have a friend who’s Platinum. He has 40PP expiring in the next couple months, and I’m wondering if he “sponsors” me for an upgrade, will it hurt my chances rather than just using my own PPs for an upgrade? We just figured it would be nice if I used his points before his expire, and then he can use some of mine once he travels again since mine don’t expire until January.

fumje Apr 22, 2022 6:07 pm


Originally Posted by mpiotrow (Post 34188600)
Question about using PPs…I’m 1K, and have a friend who’s Platinum. He has 40PP expiring in the next couple months, and I’m wondering if he “sponsors” me for an upgrade, will it hurt my chances rather than just using my own PPs for an upgrade? We just figured it would be nice if I used his points before his expire, and then he can use some of mine once he travels again since mine don’t expire until January.

No difference. Only case with a disparity is GS vs. non-GS +P.

jsloan Apr 25, 2022 10:55 am


Originally Posted by JimInOhio (Post 34180928)
It might be a question of definitions. I always assumed the 24 hour rule applied to an international connection, not more broadly to an international reservation. UA's computers might be considering your connection at LAX as domestic.

The 24 hour rule applies to fare components. There is no such thing as a domestic connection vs. an international connection. If your fare allows for four transfers, and can be routed EWR-CHI-LAX-SFO-XXX, you could spend 23h59m at CHI, LAX, and SFO without creating a stopover.

Skytizen Apr 25, 2022 11:03 pm

Are pluspoints applied sequentially? IF 2 classes r available which one do you get?
 
ON an international ticket (say, SFO to SIN), IF PlusPoints are used for upgrade BOTH to Premium Plus (20) AND upgrade to Business class (40)..

A. Is there a risk that one would be upgraded to Premium Plus, if that becomes available EVEN THOUGH an upgrade to Business were possible?

In other words, you are passed over (for an upgrade to business) because you put in for upgrade to premium plus?

B. SO, is it better to just apply for business upgrade (and face the prospect of losing upgrade to Premium plus)?

In other words, if one applied for both premium plus AND business, is there a 'hierarchy' in which the upgrades would be applied?

findark Apr 26, 2022 7:28 am


Originally Posted by Skytizen (Post 34196775)
A. Is there a risk that one would be upgraded to Premium Plus, if that becomes available EVEN THOUGH an upgrade to Business were possible?

No.


Originally Posted by Skytizen (Post 34196775)
B. SO, is it better to just apply for business upgrade (and face the prospect of losing upgrade to Premium plus)?

In other words, if one applied for both premium plus AND business, is there a 'hierarchy' in which the upgrades would be applied?

There is absolutely no harm to your Polaris upgrade if you request a PE upgrade as well. The only reason not to request a PE upgrade is if you don't think it is worth 20 Plus Points to clear only that upgrade.

Kmxu Apr 26, 2022 7:48 am


Originally Posted by Skytizen (Post 34196775)
ON an international ticket (say, SFO to SIN), IF PlusPoints are used for upgrade BOTH to Premium Plus (20) AND upgrade to Business class (40)..

A. Is there a risk that one would be upgraded to Premium Plus, if that becomes available EVEN THOUGH an upgrade to Business were possible?

In other words, you are passed over (for an upgrade to business) because you put in for upgrade to premium plus?

B. SO, is it better to just apply for business upgrade (and face the prospect of losing upgrade to Premium plus)?

In other words, if one applied for both premium plus AND business, is there a 'hierarchy' in which the upgrades would be applied?

You will be on two different upgrade standby lists; they are independent from each other. If one really likes the selected E+ seat and does not want to waste the PPs for a Premium Plus seat, apply for Polaris upgrade only. Otherwise, try luck on both upgrades. :)

Skytizen Apr 26, 2022 11:53 pm


Originally Posted by findark (Post 34197540)
No.



There is absolutely no harm to your Polaris upgrade if you request a PE upgrade as well. The only reason not to request a PE upgrade is if you don't think it is worth 20 Plus Points to clear only that upgrade.

Thanks for the info...

They all expire at the end of July, so not worried about the worth of the pluspoints....


Originally Posted by Kmxu (Post 34197593)
You will be on two different upgrade standby lists; they are independent from each other. If one really likes the selected E+ seat and does not want to waste the PPs for a Premium Plus seat, apply for Polaris upgrade only. Otherwise, try luck on both upgrades. :)

Thank you for the tip..

yes, will leave both upgrade requests on..

Winkdaddy Apr 27, 2022 3:42 pm

How would this scenario work? I am a 1K flying with a colleague who has no status. I may buy a roundtrip ticket ORD-SFO-SIN for both of us, same reservation. The ORD-SFO leg is a B fare and SFO-SIN is an A fare in Premium Economy. I apply PlusPoints for both of us to upgrade on SFO-SIN/SIN-SFO .

1. I understand I automatically upgrade on ORD-SFO since its a B fare. Does my companion too? If not, does it hurt my upgrade chances?

2. Does my 1K status extend to my colleage for the Plus Points? Or would we be way down the Plus Point upgrade list because he has no status?


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