Jun 6, 2018, 1:40 pm
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The TATL -LGT Fares will be called Basic Economy Effective 12/11/2018, Additional Restrictions will Apply
Now even more ways to fly across the Atlantic -- Atlantic Joint Venture offering with Air Canada and Lufthansa Group
Will earn 50% PQMs, 100% PQDs, RDMs, Lifetime miles and segment credit toward 4 UA segments needed for elite status
-- BE and TATL BE earns will be the same
BE uses N fares, TATL BE / -LGT can be a number of the lower discount economy fare classes
No changes -- dates, fare class, truly non-refundable ... and no upgrades
Other -LGT restrictions
Normal TATL fares include a free check bag -- -LGT fares do not for non-elites / non-credit card holders
No Premier seating benefits - i.e., no free Economy Plus
To aviod TATL BE fares
United's Basic Economy - Discussion, Q&A, ...
Benefit impact of restricted economy fares on UA Elites (Basic Econ, -LGT, Light Econ
Now even more ways to fly across the Atlantic -- Atlantic Joint Venture offering with Air Canada and Lufthansa Group
New ways to fly across the Atlantic Effective June 5, 2018, United Airlines in line with Atlantic Joint Venture partners Air Canada and Lufthansa Group, will introduce a new fare option in select trans-Atlantic markets.
Created for our customers who may be more price-sensitive, these lowest-priced fares are the first step towards a Basic Economy product on trans-Atlantic United flights. The fare includes the same inflight experience as standard United Economy but with important restrictions that you'll want to review carefully before booking.
Created for our customers who may be more price-sensitive, these lowest-priced fares are the first step towards a Basic Economy product on trans-Atlantic United flights. The fare includes the same inflight experience as standard United Economy but with important restrictions that you'll want to review carefully before booking.
What is the new fare option?
For customers traveling between the United States or Canada and select European countries in specific lower Economy booking classes, the new fare option will not include a complimentary first checked baggage allowance, upgrades or the ability to make changes following purchase.
Customers purchasing this fare for travel ticketed and operated on United will be eligible for advance seat assignments, one standard carry-on bag and one personal item, and the same United Economy cabin experience and services, including dining options, Wi-Fi for purchase and inflight entertainment.
What date is the fare option applicable?
The fare option is applicable for first ticket and first travel date on or after June 5, 2018, for all points of sale. The first bag fee does not apply to tickets purchased before June 4, 2018
.
How is the fare option identified?
For all Atlantic joint venture carriers, the last 3 characters of the fare basis code will be -LGT, and the fare type code is ERU/EOU.
For point of origin U. S. the fare is planned for booking classes K , L and T.
For point of origin E.U. and Canada, the fare is planned for booking classes K, L, T, S and W. Booking classes are subject to change and may vary by route.
The fares will vary from market to market and depend on availability. Customers traveling between the U.S. or Canada and Europe will be able to see if this fare is available on their flight when booking.
What are the conditions of the new fare option?
The new fare has some important restrictions compared to a standard United Economy ticket:
• The fare does not include a free baggage allowance for checked baggage.
• The fare is non-refundable and non-changeable except as stated in the United 24-hour flexible booking policy.
• The fare cannot be combined with any other fare type.
• The fare is not eligible for upgrades to a premium cabin (complimentary, purchased or instrument).
For customers traveling between the United States or Canada and select European countries in specific lower Economy booking classes, the new fare option will not include a complimentary first checked baggage allowance, upgrades or the ability to make changes following purchase.
Customers purchasing this fare for travel ticketed and operated on United will be eligible for advance seat assignments, one standard carry-on bag and one personal item, and the same United Economy cabin experience and services, including dining options, Wi-Fi for purchase and inflight entertainment.
What date is the fare option applicable?
The fare option is applicable for first ticket and first travel date on or after June 5, 2018, for all points of sale. The first bag fee does not apply to tickets purchased before June 4, 2018
.
How is the fare option identified?
For all Atlantic joint venture carriers, the last 3 characters of the fare basis code will be -LGT, and the fare type code is ERU/EOU.
For point of origin U. S. the fare is planned for booking classes K , L and T.
For point of origin E.U. and Canada, the fare is planned for booking classes K, L, T, S and W. Booking classes are subject to change and may vary by route.
The fares will vary from market to market and depend on availability. Customers traveling between the U.S. or Canada and Europe will be able to see if this fare is available on their flight when booking.
What are the conditions of the new fare option?
The new fare has some important restrictions compared to a standard United Economy ticket:
• The fare does not include a free baggage allowance for checked baggage.
• The fare is non-refundable and non-changeable except as stated in the United 24-hour flexible booking policy.
• The fare cannot be combined with any other fare type.
• The fare is not eligible for upgrades to a premium cabin (complimentary, purchased or instrument).
Are there any exemptions from the first bag fee?
The following customers are exempt from the fee when checking in with United and traveling on United or United Express for the first segment of a trans-Atlantic itinerary:
• MileagePlus Premier members
• Chase MileagePlus cardholders
• Members of the U.S. military
• Star Alliance Gold members
The following customers are exempt from the fee when checking in with United and traveling on United or United Express for the first segment of a trans-Atlantic itinerary:
• MileagePlus Premier members
• Chase MileagePlus cardholders
• Members of the U.S. military
• Star Alliance Gold members
-- BE and TATL BE earns will be the same
BE uses N fares, TATL BE / -LGT can be a number of the lower discount economy fare classes
No changes -- dates, fare class, truly non-refundable ... and no upgrades
Other -LGT restrictions
Normal TATL fares include a free check bag -- -LGT fares do not for non-elites / non-credit card holders
No Premier seating benefits - i.e., no free Economy Plus
To aviod TATL BE fares
ITA Matrix Google Flights -- select 1 Carry-on bag
related threadsUnited's Basic Economy - Discussion, Q&A, ...
Benefit impact of restricted economy fares on UA Elites (Basic Econ, -LGT, Light Econ
TATL Basic Economy (renamed Dec 2018); all BE to earn 50% PQMs, earn 100% PQDs
Dec 3, 2018, 2:22 pm
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Has there been any public announcement, (as opposed to a travel agent briefing).
The mileage plus earning charts still show all but N fares as earning 100% in Y, even after Jsn 1st 2019. The light fares beyond Jan still show as K/L/T fares. Unless they intend to change everything on December 11th.
The mileage plus earning charts still show all but N fares as earning 100% in Y, even after Jsn 1st 2019. The light fares beyond Jan still show as K/L/T fares. Unless they intend to change everything on December 11th.
Dec 4, 2018, 1:01 am
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Dec 4, 2018, 8:12 am
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Dec 4, 2018, 8:21 am
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When they changed P from 200% to 150% effective January 1, they did grandfather in purchases that had been made before the announcement. I'd hope they'd do the same thing here, but there's never any guarantee; they reserve the right to change the earnings at any point.
Dec 4, 2018, 9:14 am
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The P fare appears to a manual guarantee-- requiring follow up. And it is fairly unusual, in the past, the standard process was earnings were based on published charts at the time of travel, not the time of purchase.
Dec 4, 2018, 10:22 am
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Dec 4, 2018, 9:27 pm
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They're trying not to sell these fares. They're going to make them as unattractive as they can get away with, particularly to Premier members.
Dec 4, 2018, 9:47 pm
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Just traveled one to CDG and everything went fine I had E+ at time of reservation, the only thing I didn't get was being placed on an upgrade list (which I would've never cleared anyway) however everything else was like a regular trip. I did notice on the domestic portions I did not have SDC opportunities, but I wasn't planning on changing this time either so it worked out perfectly for me in the end! Full mileage mileage credited already.. I guess with the new iteration it's a whole different game and I wouldn't bite with the new parameters as stated
Dec 5, 2018, 2:10 am
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Just traveled one to CDG and everything went fine I had E+ at time of reservation, the only thing I didn't get was being placed on an upgrade list (which I would've never cleared anyway) however everything else was like a regular trip. I did notice on the domestic portions I did not have SDC opportunities, but I wasn't planning on changing this time either so it worked out perfectly for me in the end! Full mileage mileage credited already.. I guess with the new iteration it's a whole different game and I wouldn't bite with the new parameters as stated
Dec 10, 2018, 4:20 pm
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united charging for "preferred seats", now gives limited elite qualifying credit for
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/12/10/united-airlines-to-charge-for-seats-at-the-front-of-the-coach-cabin.html?__source=yahoo%7Cfinance%7Cheadline%7Cs tory%7C&par=yahoo&yptr=yahoo
Starting this Friday, coach passengers on United Airlines who want to avoid the back of the plane may have to pay up for it. The airline will charge a fee for so-called preferred seats on flights throughout its network. These seats don't come with extra legroom or other perks. They're standard economy seats that will be behind the Economy Plus rows, which come with more space.
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Also starting Tuesday, United will start allowing travelers to apply their basic economy tickets toward elite status in the airline’s MileagePlus frequent flyer program.
United’s basic economy passengers will earn 50 percent of the qualifying miles and half of a qualifying segment for each flight, while the price of the ticket will be fully applied
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Also starting Tuesday, United will start allowing travelers to apply their basic economy tickets toward elite status in the airline’s MileagePlus frequent flyer program.
United’s basic economy passengers will earn 50 percent of the qualifying miles and half of a qualifying segment for each flight, while the price of the ticket will be fully applied
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