Jun 6, 2018, 1:40 pm
Last edit by: Kacee
The TATL -LGT Fares will be called Basic Economy Effective 12/11/2018, Additional Restrictions will Apply
Now even more ways to fly across the Atlantic -- Atlantic Joint Venture offering with Air Canada and Lufthansa Group
Will earn 50% PQMs, 100% PQDs, RDMs, Lifetime miles and segment credit toward 4 UA segments needed for elite status
-- BE and TATL BE earns will be the same
BE uses N fares, TATL BE / -LGT can be a number of the lower discount economy fare classes
No changes -- dates, fare class, truly non-refundable ... and no upgrades
Other -LGT restrictions
Normal TATL fares include a free check bag -- -LGT fares do not for non-elites / non-credit card holders
No Premier seating benefits - i.e., no free Economy Plus
To aviod TATL BE fares
United's Basic Economy - Discussion, Q&A, ...
Benefit impact of restricted economy fares on UA Elites (Basic Econ, -LGT, Light Econ
Now even more ways to fly across the Atlantic -- Atlantic Joint Venture offering with Air Canada and Lufthansa Group
New ways to fly across the Atlantic Effective June 5, 2018, United Airlines in line with Atlantic Joint Venture partners Air Canada and Lufthansa Group, will introduce a new fare option in select trans-Atlantic markets.
Created for our customers who may be more price-sensitive, these lowest-priced fares are the first step towards a Basic Economy product on trans-Atlantic United flights. The fare includes the same inflight experience as standard United Economy but with important restrictions that you'll want to review carefully before booking.
Created for our customers who may be more price-sensitive, these lowest-priced fares are the first step towards a Basic Economy product on trans-Atlantic United flights. The fare includes the same inflight experience as standard United Economy but with important restrictions that you'll want to review carefully before booking.
What is the new fare option?
For customers traveling between the United States or Canada and select European countries in specific lower Economy booking classes, the new fare option will not include a complimentary first checked baggage allowance, upgrades or the ability to make changes following purchase.
Customers purchasing this fare for travel ticketed and operated on United will be eligible for advance seat assignments, one standard carry-on bag and one personal item, and the same United Economy cabin experience and services, including dining options, Wi-Fi for purchase and inflight entertainment.
What date is the fare option applicable?
The fare option is applicable for first ticket and first travel date on or after June 5, 2018, for all points of sale. The first bag fee does not apply to tickets purchased before June 4, 2018
.
How is the fare option identified?
For all Atlantic joint venture carriers, the last 3 characters of the fare basis code will be -LGT, and the fare type code is ERU/EOU.
For point of origin U. S. the fare is planned for booking classes K , L and T.
For point of origin E.U. and Canada, the fare is planned for booking classes K, L, T, S and W. Booking classes are subject to change and may vary by route.
The fares will vary from market to market and depend on availability. Customers traveling between the U.S. or Canada and Europe will be able to see if this fare is available on their flight when booking.
What are the conditions of the new fare option?
The new fare has some important restrictions compared to a standard United Economy ticket:
• The fare does not include a free baggage allowance for checked baggage.
• The fare is non-refundable and non-changeable except as stated in the United 24-hour flexible booking policy.
• The fare cannot be combined with any other fare type.
• The fare is not eligible for upgrades to a premium cabin (complimentary, purchased or instrument).
For customers traveling between the United States or Canada and select European countries in specific lower Economy booking classes, the new fare option will not include a complimentary first checked baggage allowance, upgrades or the ability to make changes following purchase.
Customers purchasing this fare for travel ticketed and operated on United will be eligible for advance seat assignments, one standard carry-on bag and one personal item, and the same United Economy cabin experience and services, including dining options, Wi-Fi for purchase and inflight entertainment.
What date is the fare option applicable?
The fare option is applicable for first ticket and first travel date on or after June 5, 2018, for all points of sale. The first bag fee does not apply to tickets purchased before June 4, 2018
.
How is the fare option identified?
For all Atlantic joint venture carriers, the last 3 characters of the fare basis code will be -LGT, and the fare type code is ERU/EOU.
For point of origin U. S. the fare is planned for booking classes K , L and T.
For point of origin E.U. and Canada, the fare is planned for booking classes K, L, T, S and W. Booking classes are subject to change and may vary by route.
The fares will vary from market to market and depend on availability. Customers traveling between the U.S. or Canada and Europe will be able to see if this fare is available on their flight when booking.
What are the conditions of the new fare option?
The new fare has some important restrictions compared to a standard United Economy ticket:
• The fare does not include a free baggage allowance for checked baggage.
• The fare is non-refundable and non-changeable except as stated in the United 24-hour flexible booking policy.
• The fare cannot be combined with any other fare type.
• The fare is not eligible for upgrades to a premium cabin (complimentary, purchased or instrument).
Are there any exemptions from the first bag fee?
The following customers are exempt from the fee when checking in with United and traveling on United or United Express for the first segment of a trans-Atlantic itinerary:
• MileagePlus Premier members
• Chase MileagePlus cardholders
• Members of the U.S. military
• Star Alliance Gold members
The following customers are exempt from the fee when checking in with United and traveling on United or United Express for the first segment of a trans-Atlantic itinerary:
• MileagePlus Premier members
• Chase MileagePlus cardholders
• Members of the U.S. military
• Star Alliance Gold members
-- BE and TATL BE earns will be the same
BE uses N fares, TATL BE / -LGT can be a number of the lower discount economy fare classes
No changes -- dates, fare class, truly non-refundable ... and no upgrades
Other -LGT restrictions
Normal TATL fares include a free check bag -- -LGT fares do not for non-elites / non-credit card holders
No Premier seating benefits - i.e., no free Economy Plus
To aviod TATL BE fares
ITA Matrix Google Flights -- select 1 Carry-on bag
related threadsUnited's Basic Economy - Discussion, Q&A, ...
Benefit impact of restricted economy fares on UA Elites (Basic Econ, -LGT, Light Econ
TATL Basic Economy (renamed Dec 2018); all BE to earn 50% PQMs, earn 100% PQDs
Jan 18, 2019, 7:12 am
#361
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Can someone clarify for me how LH BE fares booked on LH website into booking class K will be recognized as BE fares when crediting to UA MP? I know it's listed on the website, but I don't understand how this would technically work.
Is there some experience whether these might still be simply recognized as booking class K and thus result in 100% PQM and 0 PQS instead of 50% PQM and 0.5 PQS?
Is there some experience whether these might still be simply recognized as booking class K and thus result in 100% PQM and 0 PQS instead of 50% PQM and 0.5 PQS?
TL/DR: Expect 50% PQM.
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Jan 19, 2019, 8:58 pm
#362
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When UA contacts LH to authorize that mileage credit, LH will inform UA how much to credit. Credit quantity is controlled by the operating carrier.
Last edited by WineCountryUA; Jan 19, 2019 at 9:21 pm Reason: typo
Jan 21, 2019, 11:36 pm
#363
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I've got an LGT classic (i.e. Economy no Changes/Refunds) fare which I'm due to take in March. The return portion of the ticket is EWR->LHR. My question is: supposing UA issues a travel advisory for EWR on my day of departure @ EWR, what happens to the ticket? Will I be able to rebook the return leg for a different time in spite of it technically not allowing a Change/Refund? Does it need to be in the same fare class or is it fine if it's the same cabin? Could I swap the departure for the day after?
Would love to hear people's experiences using this more restrictive fare.
-James
Would love to hear people's experiences using this more restrictive fare.
-James
Jan 22, 2019, 1:54 am
#364
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I've got an LGT classic (i.e. Economy no Changes/Refunds) fare which I'm due to take in March. The return portion of the ticket is EWR->LHR. My question is: supposing UA issues a travel advisory for EWR on my day of departure @ EWR, what happens to the ticket? Will I be able to rebook the return leg for a different time in spite of it technically not allowing a Change/Refund? Does it need to be in the same fare class or is it fine if it's the same cabin? Could I swap the departure for the day after?
Would love to hear people's experiences using this more restrictive fare.
-James
Would love to hear people's experiences using this more restrictive fare.
-James
Jan 25, 2019, 5:50 pm
#366
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Economy light on LH is equivalent to Basic Economy on UA. Economy Basic (I think it goes Economy Basic I and Economy Basic Plus) on LH pre-date the current UA Basic fare, and are LHs way of branding a regular restricted economy fare. So you should get regular mileage on these.
LH is not really good at describing even the mileage accrual for M&M on these at booking. But one way to tell is by looking at the bag allowance, which states 0 for an Economy Light fare, but 1 for Economy Basic. At least on the flights I just looked to test, it also indicates an L fare for both Light and Basic. But the bag allowance gives it away, and on the fare with 1 bag allowance, you’re accrual would be like any L fare on LH.
Jan 28, 2019, 10:50 am
#368
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I earned 100%. I even got them to give me 100% PQMs ORC after changing due to weather.
Jan 28, 2019, 11:35 am
#369
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I flew EWR-MAD in Oct on the lowest economy fare, and my returning UA flight was cancelled. Despite my fare class, I was ticketed on DL and received comp in the form of $900 UA travel certificate, so I'm pretty sure you'll be ok.
Jan 28, 2019, 1:15 pm
#370
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BE doesn't trump EU law. By law, you were entitled to €600 cash compensation for the cancellation. UA routinely offers a $900 travel credit instead.
Jan 28, 2019, 1:24 pm
#371
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[EDIT] Never mind, I see now that the OP mentioned "returning flight"...oops!
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Jan 28, 2019, 1:25 pm
#372
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I was offered both, and choose the UA travel cert. The OP was wondering if he'd be treated differently due to the fare class.
Jan 28, 2019, 1:27 pm
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Feb 1, 2019, 5:36 am
#374
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Not quite true, I was on the Basic Economy (with the 'pop up' detailing restrictions prior to my booking the flight), paying US$ 343 r/t EWR- MAD in Oct.
Feb 6, 2019, 1:40 pm
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Just a quick question. Does this fare only apply to TATL, and not TPAC? I am asking because I just scored a G-Fare on DEN-SYD in the recent sale. The United website shows 100% PQM, PQS and PQD credit, but I’m not sure if it would reflect lesser accruals amount if this was actually a BE fare.
Thanks for any input.
Thanks for any input.