Jun 6, 2018, 1:40 pm
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The TATL -LGT Fares will be called Basic Economy Effective 12/11/2018, Additional Restrictions will Apply
Now even more ways to fly across the Atlantic -- Atlantic Joint Venture offering with Air Canada and Lufthansa Group
Will earn 50% PQMs, 100% PQDs, RDMs, Lifetime miles and segment credit toward 4 UA segments needed for elite status
-- BE and TATL BE earns will be the same
BE uses N fares, TATL BE / -LGT can be a number of the lower discount economy fare classes
No changes -- dates, fare class, truly non-refundable ... and no upgrades
Other -LGT restrictions
Normal TATL fares include a free check bag -- -LGT fares do not for non-elites / non-credit card holders
No Premier seating benefits - i.e., no free Economy Plus
To aviod TATL BE fares
United's Basic Economy - Discussion, Q&A, ...
Benefit impact of restricted economy fares on UA Elites (Basic Econ, -LGT, Light Econ
Now even more ways to fly across the Atlantic -- Atlantic Joint Venture offering with Air Canada and Lufthansa Group
New ways to fly across the Atlantic Effective June 5, 2018, United Airlines in line with Atlantic Joint Venture partners Air Canada and Lufthansa Group, will introduce a new fare option in select trans-Atlantic markets.
Created for our customers who may be more price-sensitive, these lowest-priced fares are the first step towards a Basic Economy product on trans-Atlantic United flights. The fare includes the same inflight experience as standard United Economy but with important restrictions that you'll want to review carefully before booking.
Created for our customers who may be more price-sensitive, these lowest-priced fares are the first step towards a Basic Economy product on trans-Atlantic United flights. The fare includes the same inflight experience as standard United Economy but with important restrictions that you'll want to review carefully before booking.
What is the new fare option?
For customers traveling between the United States or Canada and select European countries in specific lower Economy booking classes, the new fare option will not include a complimentary first checked baggage allowance, upgrades or the ability to make changes following purchase.
Customers purchasing this fare for travel ticketed and operated on United will be eligible for advance seat assignments, one standard carry-on bag and one personal item, and the same United Economy cabin experience and services, including dining options, Wi-Fi for purchase and inflight entertainment.
What date is the fare option applicable?
The fare option is applicable for first ticket and first travel date on or after June 5, 2018, for all points of sale. The first bag fee does not apply to tickets purchased before June 4, 2018
.
How is the fare option identified?
For all Atlantic joint venture carriers, the last 3 characters of the fare basis code will be -LGT, and the fare type code is ERU/EOU.
For point of origin U. S. the fare is planned for booking classes K , L and T.
For point of origin E.U. and Canada, the fare is planned for booking classes K, L, T, S and W. Booking classes are subject to change and may vary by route.
The fares will vary from market to market and depend on availability. Customers traveling between the U.S. or Canada and Europe will be able to see if this fare is available on their flight when booking.
What are the conditions of the new fare option?
The new fare has some important restrictions compared to a standard United Economy ticket:
• The fare does not include a free baggage allowance for checked baggage.
• The fare is non-refundable and non-changeable except as stated in the United 24-hour flexible booking policy.
• The fare cannot be combined with any other fare type.
• The fare is not eligible for upgrades to a premium cabin (complimentary, purchased or instrument).
For customers traveling between the United States or Canada and select European countries in specific lower Economy booking classes, the new fare option will not include a complimentary first checked baggage allowance, upgrades or the ability to make changes following purchase.
Customers purchasing this fare for travel ticketed and operated on United will be eligible for advance seat assignments, one standard carry-on bag and one personal item, and the same United Economy cabin experience and services, including dining options, Wi-Fi for purchase and inflight entertainment.
What date is the fare option applicable?
The fare option is applicable for first ticket and first travel date on or after June 5, 2018, for all points of sale. The first bag fee does not apply to tickets purchased before June 4, 2018
.
How is the fare option identified?
For all Atlantic joint venture carriers, the last 3 characters of the fare basis code will be -LGT, and the fare type code is ERU/EOU.
For point of origin U. S. the fare is planned for booking classes K , L and T.
For point of origin E.U. and Canada, the fare is planned for booking classes K, L, T, S and W. Booking classes are subject to change and may vary by route.
The fares will vary from market to market and depend on availability. Customers traveling between the U.S. or Canada and Europe will be able to see if this fare is available on their flight when booking.
What are the conditions of the new fare option?
The new fare has some important restrictions compared to a standard United Economy ticket:
• The fare does not include a free baggage allowance for checked baggage.
• The fare is non-refundable and non-changeable except as stated in the United 24-hour flexible booking policy.
• The fare cannot be combined with any other fare type.
• The fare is not eligible for upgrades to a premium cabin (complimentary, purchased or instrument).
Are there any exemptions from the first bag fee?
The following customers are exempt from the fee when checking in with United and traveling on United or United Express for the first segment of a trans-Atlantic itinerary:
• MileagePlus Premier members
• Chase MileagePlus cardholders
• Members of the U.S. military
• Star Alliance Gold members
The following customers are exempt from the fee when checking in with United and traveling on United or United Express for the first segment of a trans-Atlantic itinerary:
• MileagePlus Premier members
• Chase MileagePlus cardholders
• Members of the U.S. military
• Star Alliance Gold members
-- BE and TATL BE earns will be the same
BE uses N fares, TATL BE / -LGT can be a number of the lower discount economy fare classes
No changes -- dates, fare class, truly non-refundable ... and no upgrades
Other -LGT restrictions
Normal TATL fares include a free check bag -- -LGT fares do not for non-elites / non-credit card holders
No Premier seating benefits - i.e., no free Economy Plus
To aviod TATL BE fares
ITA Matrix Google Flights -- select 1 Carry-on bag
related threadsUnited's Basic Economy - Discussion, Q&A, ...
Benefit impact of restricted economy fares on UA Elites (Basic Econ, -LGT, Light Econ
TATL Basic Economy (renamed Dec 2018); all BE to earn 50% PQMs, earn 100% PQDs
Jul 5, 2018, 11:37 am
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Jul 5, 2018, 12:38 pm
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Regardless, you should be entitled to 1x23kg at the counter in GOT. The relevant rules are UA's allowance for the underlying tariff (0 bags), plus LH's elite waivers for GOT to SFO (next ticketed point). I would expect the bag to be free in GOT without issue; if they raise a fuss I would first point out that LH has different rules than SK for this, and you are flying LH, and then just pay $60 and ask LH for a refund after-the-fact.
Jul 6, 2018, 6:29 am
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Thanks for the info. I've saved the Lufthansa material on Economy Light so I'll show it to them if they give me a fuss.
No matter how you look at it, $380 per person for a round-trip flight between Sweden and SFO is extremely affordable. I'm still a bit shocked that prices could get so low.
No matter how you look at it, $380 per person for a round-trip flight between Sweden and SFO is extremely affordable. I'm still a bit shocked that prices could get so low.
Jul 6, 2018, 12:44 pm
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Yeah, the strong dollar among other things has meant that fares from almost anywhere that's not the US have been quite nice in recent months. Lots of 1500-2500 deals in J from Europe to both the US and Asia/Australia.
Aug 3, 2018, 12:45 am
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Unsure if this has been answered already in the form (didn't have the time to flip through 224 pages 
), but was wondering how economy basic worked for international flights. Currently looking at a BOS -> LCY on LX metal and LHR -> LAX on UA metal in January that books into K. My understanding is that the rules for domestic economy basic are different than that for international itineraries. As a UA Gold member would I:
Safe Travels,
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), but was wondering how economy basic worked for international flights. Currently looking at a BOS -> LCY on LX metal and LHR -> LAX on UA metal in January that books into K. My understanding is that the rules for domestic economy basic are different than that for international itineraries. As a UA Gold member would I:- Earn PQMs for the flight?
- Have access to my *Gold benefits like priority everything, lounge access, baggage allowance, etc.
- Be able to choose E+ seating during booking or OLCI?
- Qualify for ToD, online buy-ups or GGBuyup upgrades?
Safe Travels,
James
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Aug 3, 2018, 12:50 am
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Unsure if this has been answered already in the form (didn't have the time to flip through 224 pages ), but was wondering how economy basic worked for international flights. Currently looking at a BOS -> LCY on LX metal and LHR -> LAX on UA metal in January that books into K. My understanding is that the rules for domestic economy basic are different than that for international itineraries. As a UA Gold member would I:
Safe Travels,
James
), but was wondering how economy basic worked for international flights. Currently looking at a BOS -> LCY on LX metal and LHR -> LAX on UA metal in January that books into K. My understanding is that the rules for domestic economy basic are different than that for international itineraries. As a UA Gold member would I:- Earn PQMs for the flight?
- Have access to my *Gold benefits like priority everything, lounge access, baggage allowance, etc.
- Be able to choose E+ seating during booking or OLCI?
- Qualify for ToD, online buy-ups or GGBuyup upgrades?
Safe Travels,
James
Aug 3, 2018, 1:18 am
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There is no Basic Economy fares (at this point) for TATL, there are "LGT" fares which are much less punitive than Basic Economy. Basic no free checked bags and no changes. The LGT fares can line up with LH's Light Fares
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- Yes
- Yes (at booking)
- Probably not, probably not, definitely not
Just the standard difference between fare-based RDMs and distance based RDMs and zero versus non-zero PQD for the LX segments.
Aug 3, 2018, 9:08 am
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"Economy (first bag charge/no changes allowed)" on international?
This is the first I'm seeing this. It doesn't appear to be the same as BE. Searching CLE-DUB in October - what does this mean in terms of booking with MP Visa/status?
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