Jun 6, 2018, 1:40 pm
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The TATL -LGT Fares will be called Basic Economy Effective 12/11/2018, Additional Restrictions will Apply
Now even more ways to fly across the Atlantic -- Atlantic Joint Venture offering with Air Canada and Lufthansa Group
Will earn 50% PQMs, 100% PQDs, RDMs, Lifetime miles and segment credit toward 4 UA segments needed for elite status
-- BE and TATL BE earns will be the same
BE uses N fares, TATL BE / -LGT can be a number of the lower discount economy fare classes
No changes -- dates, fare class, truly non-refundable ... and no upgrades
Other -LGT restrictions
Normal TATL fares include a free check bag -- -LGT fares do not for non-elites / non-credit card holders
No Premier seating benefits - i.e., no free Economy Plus
To aviod TATL BE fares
United's Basic Economy - Discussion, Q&A, ...
Benefit impact of restricted economy fares on UA Elites (Basic Econ, -LGT, Light Econ
Now even more ways to fly across the Atlantic -- Atlantic Joint Venture offering with Air Canada and Lufthansa Group
New ways to fly across the Atlantic Effective June 5, 2018, United Airlines in line with Atlantic Joint Venture partners Air Canada and Lufthansa Group, will introduce a new fare option in select trans-Atlantic markets.
Created for our customers who may be more price-sensitive, these lowest-priced fares are the first step towards a Basic Economy product on trans-Atlantic United flights. The fare includes the same inflight experience as standard United Economy but with important restrictions that you'll want to review carefully before booking.
Created for our customers who may be more price-sensitive, these lowest-priced fares are the first step towards a Basic Economy product on trans-Atlantic United flights. The fare includes the same inflight experience as standard United Economy but with important restrictions that you'll want to review carefully before booking.
What is the new fare option?
For customers traveling between the United States or Canada and select European countries in specific lower Economy booking classes, the new fare option will not include a complimentary first checked baggage allowance, upgrades or the ability to make changes following purchase.
Customers purchasing this fare for travel ticketed and operated on United will be eligible for advance seat assignments, one standard carry-on bag and one personal item, and the same United Economy cabin experience and services, including dining options, Wi-Fi for purchase and inflight entertainment.
What date is the fare option applicable?
The fare option is applicable for first ticket and first travel date on or after June 5, 2018, for all points of sale. The first bag fee does not apply to tickets purchased before June 4, 2018
.
How is the fare option identified?
For all Atlantic joint venture carriers, the last 3 characters of the fare basis code will be -LGT, and the fare type code is ERU/EOU.
For point of origin U. S. the fare is planned for booking classes K , L and T.
For point of origin E.U. and Canada, the fare is planned for booking classes K, L, T, S and W. Booking classes are subject to change and may vary by route.
The fares will vary from market to market and depend on availability. Customers traveling between the U.S. or Canada and Europe will be able to see if this fare is available on their flight when booking.
What are the conditions of the new fare option?
The new fare has some important restrictions compared to a standard United Economy ticket:
• The fare does not include a free baggage allowance for checked baggage.
• The fare is non-refundable and non-changeable except as stated in the United 24-hour flexible booking policy.
• The fare cannot be combined with any other fare type.
• The fare is not eligible for upgrades to a premium cabin (complimentary, purchased or instrument).
For customers traveling between the United States or Canada and select European countries in specific lower Economy booking classes, the new fare option will not include a complimentary first checked baggage allowance, upgrades or the ability to make changes following purchase.
Customers purchasing this fare for travel ticketed and operated on United will be eligible for advance seat assignments, one standard carry-on bag and one personal item, and the same United Economy cabin experience and services, including dining options, Wi-Fi for purchase and inflight entertainment.
What date is the fare option applicable?
The fare option is applicable for first ticket and first travel date on or after June 5, 2018, for all points of sale. The first bag fee does not apply to tickets purchased before June 4, 2018
.
How is the fare option identified?
For all Atlantic joint venture carriers, the last 3 characters of the fare basis code will be -LGT, and the fare type code is ERU/EOU.
For point of origin U. S. the fare is planned for booking classes K , L and T.
For point of origin E.U. and Canada, the fare is planned for booking classes K, L, T, S and W. Booking classes are subject to change and may vary by route.
The fares will vary from market to market and depend on availability. Customers traveling between the U.S. or Canada and Europe will be able to see if this fare is available on their flight when booking.
What are the conditions of the new fare option?
The new fare has some important restrictions compared to a standard United Economy ticket:
• The fare does not include a free baggage allowance for checked baggage.
• The fare is non-refundable and non-changeable except as stated in the United 24-hour flexible booking policy.
• The fare cannot be combined with any other fare type.
• The fare is not eligible for upgrades to a premium cabin (complimentary, purchased or instrument).
Are there any exemptions from the first bag fee?
The following customers are exempt from the fee when checking in with United and traveling on United or United Express for the first segment of a trans-Atlantic itinerary:
• MileagePlus Premier members
• Chase MileagePlus cardholders
• Members of the U.S. military
• Star Alliance Gold members
The following customers are exempt from the fee when checking in with United and traveling on United or United Express for the first segment of a trans-Atlantic itinerary:
• MileagePlus Premier members
• Chase MileagePlus cardholders
• Members of the U.S. military
• Star Alliance Gold members
-- BE and TATL BE earns will be the same
BE uses N fares, TATL BE / -LGT can be a number of the lower discount economy fare classes
No changes -- dates, fare class, truly non-refundable ... and no upgrades
Other -LGT restrictions
Normal TATL fares include a free check bag -- -LGT fares do not for non-elites / non-credit card holders
No Premier seating benefits - i.e., no free Economy Plus
To aviod TATL BE fares
ITA Matrix Google Flights -- select 1 Carry-on bag
related threadsUnited's Basic Economy - Discussion, Q&A, ...
Benefit impact of restricted economy fares on UA Elites (Basic Econ, -LGT, Light Econ
TATL Basic Economy (renamed Dec 2018); all BE to earn 50% PQMs, earn 100% PQDs
Sep 4, 2018, 12:17 pm
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More details and links in the thread's wiki
Sep 4, 2018, 12:27 pm
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Sep 4, 2018, 1:25 pm
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Sep 4, 2018, 1:52 pm
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I'll pay for a checked bag and hand carry the rest. Does anyone know if it costs the same to pre-book the bag or just pay at the airport?
Sep 13, 2018, 8:38 pm
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The computer will not allow voluntary changes and it would take a traceable override.
Sep 13, 2018, 10:07 pm
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Just booked LHR -> LAX // EWR -> LHR for $515 CAD ($396 USD) which booked into K class. I got the usual warnings about choosing Economy Light (i.e. no changes/upgrades for Elites). My itinerary receipt shows I'll be netting 8922 PQMs with 2 PQS (PQD doesn't apply since I'm a Canuck domiciled in the UK). I'm guessing the milage shown on the receipt will be what I get when I fly these segments in March, 2019 (they're all on UA)? I'm also guessing that the other UA Gold perks, namely lounge access at LHR and EWR and priority everything still apply?
In any event, happy I choose UA to enjoy E+ seating, BIS-ness class and all the benefits that come from it.
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If the ticket was purchased within the last 24 hours, you should be able to get a full refund on that. Failing that, changes in most cases won't be permitted, the only exceptions I could see are operational namely a weather related travel advisory at LHR or EWR allowing for flexible changes on your ticket and the so called flat tire rule (which is UA is notorious for inconsistently applying). That being said, if you got a good deal on the ticket, I wouldn't consider it foolish - I'm flying LHR -> LAX then EWR -> LHR for under $400 USD! Not a foolish idea if you ask me.
Safe Travels,
James
In any event, happy I choose UA to enjoy E+ seating, BIS-ness class and all the benefits that come from it.
Safe Travels,
James
Safe Travels,
James
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Sep 13, 2018, 11:22 pm
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Just booked LHR -> LAX // EWR -> LHR for $515 CAD ($396 USD) which booked into K class. I got the usual warnings about choosing Economy Light (i.e. no changes/upgrades for Elites). My itinerary receipt shows I'll be netting 8922 PQMs with 2 PQS (PQD doesn't apply since I'm a Canuck domiciled in the UK). I'm guessing the milage shown on the receipt will be what I get when I fly these segments in March, 2019 (they're all on UA)? I'm also guessing that the other UA Gold perks, namely lounge access at LHR and EWR and priority everything still apply?
In any event, happy I choose UA to enjoy E+ seating, BIS-ness class and all the benefits that come from it.
Safe Travels,
James
In any event, happy I choose UA to enjoy E+ seating, BIS-ness class and all the benefits that come from it.
Safe Travels,
James
Sep 13, 2018, 11:54 pm
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.... changes in most cases won't be permitted, the only exceptions I could see are operational namely a weather related travel advisory at LHR or EWR allowing for flexible changes on your ticket and the so called flat tire rule (which is UA is notorious for inconsistently applying). ...
Sep 14, 2018, 2:38 pm
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Sep 14, 2018, 2:44 pm
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You'd see it on domestic legs connecting to international LGT flights, if the entire journey is a through fare (which is likely).
Sep 14, 2018, 2:47 pm
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Sep 14, 2018, 3:03 pm
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They even have a wonderful coding error of the type they got when they first introduced BE -- it's giving me one outbound flight where the only option is (allegedly) LGT. There was no regular Economy fare paired with it -- just the LGT fare.
