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Old Feb 21, 2017, 2:36 pm
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Current 77W Routes:
SFO/HKG (UA 862/869) Started 25MAR17
EWR/TLV (UA 90/91) Started 5MAY17
SFO/NRT (UA 837/838) Started 14JUN17
SFO/TPE (UA 871/872) Started 1AUG17
SFO/FRA (UA 58/59) Started 5OCT17
EWR/NRT (UA 79/78) Started 28OCT17
SFO/AKL (UA 916/917) Resumes seasonal service 27OCT18 - 29MAR19 (non-seasonal 3x weekly service operated by 772)
SFO/LHR (UA 901/949) Started 23APR18, ends 26OCT18, resumes 30MAR19
SFO/TLV (UA 954/955) Started 23MAY18
EWR/BOM (UA 48/49) Started 27OCT18
EWR/HKG (UA 179/180) Started 30MAR19

Current Non-77W routes
772 Retrofit:
EWR/BRU (UA 999/998) Started 30MAR19
EWR/CDG (UA 57/56) Started 30MAR19
IAD/BRU (UA 950/951) Started 30MAR19
IAD/CDG (UA 915/914) Starts 29APR19
IAD/TLV (UA 72/73) Starts 22MAY19, 3x weekly
SFO/PEK (UA 888/889) Started 30MAR19
SFO/FRA (UA 926/927) Started 30MAR19
SFO/CDG (UA 990/984) Starts 29APR19
SFO/ICN (UA 805/806) Started 1APR19, 4x weekly
SFO/AKL (UA 916/917) Started off-season service 30MAR19, 3x weekly

Past routes:
EWR/FRA (UA 960/961) 24MAR18 - 31JUL18 (now operated by 78J)
SFO/EWR (various), currently operated by 752, 78J, 77G
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Old Dec 4, 2017, 9:02 pm
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Originally Posted by FlightLevel360
A little bit late to the conversation, seems like EWR/SFO is now dead for the 77W. I guess the aircraft are flying SFO-NRT-EWR-NRT-SFO now, so they're exclusively reserved for international routes.
I presume EWR-HKG will get the new 77W. This route seems to be weight restricted due to the smaller 772ER operating the route right now. I hope EWR-PEK also gets the 77W, as the current market between the U.S. and China seems very prospecting.
my GPU's always upgrade so it might not be the best market to add the bigger 777-300
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Old Dec 4, 2017, 9:03 pm
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Originally Posted by wxguy
The weight restriction referral is for the pmCO 777-200ER, not the new 777-300ER (77W). When there are strong headwinds EWR-HKG (and other similar VLR flights), the 772 is loaded with less freight and occasionally fewer passengers so it can avoid doing a fuel stop enroute. On rare occasion, the winds are stronger than forecast and a tech stop for fuel is required.

As a 772 captain once said to me on this flight, "We nearly always run out of water and come close to running out of fuel. Thankfully, not the other way around."
A pilot told me the most difficult route for them is ewr-bom, its the closest to 'running out" of fuel.
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Old Dec 4, 2017, 9:28 pm
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Originally Posted by drewguy
Maybe they have other routes needing the planes even more.
Until it's posted, I'm skeptical
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Old Dec 4, 2017, 11:08 pm
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Originally Posted by pushmyredbutton
Isn't it also true that during some hot summer months, the departure time of EWR-HKG is delayed to compensate for those shortcomings? I recall on some really hot days, it was pushed to the evening hours...
I'm not sure of the schedule change, but yes, hot weather can limit max take-off weight. The air is less dense -- same effect from taking off from high-altitude airports. That's why DEN's runway 16R/34L is so long at 16,000'. EWR's max length runway 4L/22R is 11,000'.
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I think the flight gets delayed because of the usual summer afternoon thunderstorm activity in the Northeast.

Originally Posted by wxguy
I'm not sure of the schedule change, but yes, hot weather can limit max take-off weight. The air is less dense -- same effect from taking off from high-altitude airports. That's why DEN's runway 16R/34L is so long at 16,000'. EWR's max length runway 4L/22R is 11,000'.
Originally Posted by pushmyredbutton
Isn't it also true that during some hot summer months, the departure time of EWR-HKG is delayed to compensate for those shortcomings? I recall on some really hot days, it was pushed to the evening hours...
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Old Dec 9, 2017, 9:12 pm
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Originally Posted by 764toHI
I think the flight gets delayed because of the usual summer afternoon thunderstorm activity in the Northeast.
And also because the plane stays at HKG overnight and the crew two nights. Little consequences delaying the flight by an hour or two (before time out) or even more if planned, while not waiting for too many passengers causes excessive workload and other disruptions to re-accommodate.
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Old Dec 9, 2017, 9:45 pm
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Is there a corresponding thread for routes that are still flying 3 class 777s and 767s / phase-out dates?

Also looks like SFO-TPE will get a 787-9 starting in the summer (based on seat maps for what's being sold). Or actually that's perhaps just part of UA's announcement that they're not going to sell GF seats after May 2018 since the 3-class planes will be getting new seats installed.
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Old Dec 10, 2017, 8:52 am
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Status of N2639U?
Anyone know whats going on with N2639U? It came in from NRT over 3 days ago and still on the ground at EWR: https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N2639U
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Old Dec 26, 2017, 11:21 pm
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Is UA888/889 back to 77W, or is it still 772 with 4 wide in J?

The schedule past the January 18 ops period is still showing 772.
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Old Dec 28, 2017, 3:30 am
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Originally Posted by bigwings8
Is there a corresponding thread for routes that are still flying 3 class 777s and 767s / phase-out dates?

Also looks like SFO-TPE will get a 787-9 starting in the summer (based on seat maps for what's being sold). Or actually that's perhaps just part of UA's announcement that they're not going to sell GF seats after May 2018 since the 3-class planes will be getting new seats installed.
I'm seeing 777-300ERs on SFO-TPE from now through October 30th, 2018. I can't edit the wiki, but someone should update.
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Old Dec 28, 2017, 5:12 am
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This holiday week UA 58/59 SFOFRASFO is not operating. Wondering if this plane will be used on another route, or just park at SFO?
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Old Dec 28, 2017, 6:13 am
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Originally Posted by cesco.g
This holiday week UA 58/59 SFOFRASFO is not operating. Wondering if this plane will be used on another route, or just park at SFO?
All of the 773s are operating their regular routes except for N2243U (HNL-SFO), N2534U (LHR-IAH), and N2142U (LAX-MDT) - probably a sports charter.
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Old Dec 28, 2017, 7:38 am
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Originally Posted by Repooc17
Is UA888/889 back to 77W, or is it still 772 with 4 wide in J?

The schedule past the January 18 ops period is still showing 772.
Not sure what dates you were looking at. 77W resumes on SFO-PEK starting on Jan 18, and PEK-SFO on Jan 19.
It has been loaded into the schedule weeks ago. Unless it will revert back to 772 on those dates you have checked, at least it shows 77W on Jan 18 and Jan 19.
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Originally Posted by cesco.g
This holiday week UA 58/59 SFOFRASFO is not operating. Wondering if this plane will be used on another route, or just park at SFO?
773s are running several charters for NCAA bowl games this week. U of Oklahoma (and band) had two aircraft chartered OKC to LAX. UCLA had one to/from LAX-PHX, and Penn State has a couple of charters on 773s MDT-PHX. Northwestern chartered a 777 ORD-BNA, but not sure if it was a -300 or -200 on that one. So....yes a reduced holiday schedule in some markets, but the planes are staying busy making money.

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Old Dec 28, 2017, 10:19 am
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Originally Posted by UA_Flyer
Not sure what dates you were looking at. 77W resumes on SFO-PEK starting on Jan 18, and PEK-SFO on Jan 19.
It has been loaded into the schedule weeks ago. Unless it will revert back to 772 on those dates you have checked, at least it shows 77W on Jan 18 and Jan 19.
Yeah, late March (3/22) shows 772 as the equipment on the SO-PEK segment.
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