Feb 21, 2017, 2:36 pm
Last edit by: cesco.g
Current 77W Routes:
SFO/HKG (UA 862/869) Started 25MAR17
EWR/TLV (UA 90/91) Started 5MAY17
SFO/NRT (UA 837/838) Started 14JUN17
SFO/TPE (UA 871/872) Started 1AUG17
SFO/FRA (UA 58/59) Started 5OCT17
EWR/NRT (UA 79/78) Started 28OCT17
SFO/AKL (UA 916/917) Resumes seasonal service 27OCT18 - 29MAR19 (non-seasonal 3x weekly service operated by 772)
SFO/LHR (UA 901/949) Started 23APR18, ends 26OCT18, resumes 30MAR19
SFO/TLV (UA 954/955) Started 23MAY18
EWR/BOM (UA 48/49) Started 27OCT18
EWR/HKG (UA 179/180) Started 30MAR19
Current Non-77W routes
772 Retrofit:
EWR/BRU (UA 999/998) Started 30MAR19
EWR/CDG (UA 57/56) Started 30MAR19
IAD/BRU (UA 950/951) Started 30MAR19
IAD/CDG (UA 915/914) Starts 29APR19
IAD/TLV (UA 72/73) Starts 22MAY19, 3x weekly
SFO/PEK (UA 888/889) Started 30MAR19
SFO/FRA (UA 926/927) Started 30MAR19
SFO/CDG (UA 990/984) Starts 29APR19
SFO/ICN (UA 805/806) Started 1APR19, 4x weekly
SFO/AKL (UA 916/917) Started off-season service 30MAR19, 3x weekly
Past routes:
EWR/FRA (UA 960/961) 24MAR18 - 31JUL18 (now operated by 78J)
SFO/EWR (various), currently operated by 752, 78J, 77G
SFO/HKG (UA 862/869) Started 25MAR17
EWR/TLV (UA 90/91) Started 5MAY17
SFO/NRT (UA 837/838) Started 14JUN17
SFO/TPE (UA 871/872) Started 1AUG17
SFO/FRA (UA 58/59) Started 5OCT17
EWR/NRT (UA 79/78) Started 28OCT17
SFO/AKL (UA 916/917) Resumes seasonal service 27OCT18 - 29MAR19 (non-seasonal 3x weekly service operated by 772)
SFO/LHR (UA 901/949) Started 23APR18, ends 26OCT18, resumes 30MAR19
SFO/TLV (UA 954/955) Started 23MAY18
EWR/BOM (UA 48/49) Started 27OCT18
EWR/HKG (UA 179/180) Started 30MAR19
Current Non-77W routes
772 Retrofit:
EWR/BRU (UA 999/998) Started 30MAR19
EWR/CDG (UA 57/56) Started 30MAR19
IAD/BRU (UA 950/951) Started 30MAR19
IAD/CDG (UA 915/914) Starts 29APR19
IAD/TLV (UA 72/73) Starts 22MAY19, 3x weekly
SFO/PEK (UA 888/889) Started 30MAR19
SFO/FRA (UA 926/927) Started 30MAR19
SFO/CDG (UA 990/984) Starts 29APR19
SFO/ICN (UA 805/806) Started 1APR19, 4x weekly
SFO/AKL (UA 916/917) Started off-season service 30MAR19, 3x weekly
Past routes:
EWR/FRA (UA 960/961) 24MAR18 - 31JUL18 (now operated by 78J)
SFO/EWR (various), currently operated by 752, 78J, 77G
United 77x Future/Changed Routes w/ Polaris Seats
Mar 5, 2018, 6:13 pm
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Currently a 788, so the capacity increase is only from the end of May through the end of October.
Big enough that UA started the route a couple years ago with 3x weekly, quickly went to 7x weekly, and now LY is starting the route 3x weekly on their 789 in November.
Figured UA was trying to scare off LY, but now UA is only putting the 77W on the route for the peak summer season and going back to the 788 for winter. The odd part is that LYs 789 has all aisle access J class while UA will be competing with a 2-2-2 J class.
Big enough that UA started the route a couple years ago with 3x weekly, quickly went to 7x weekly, and now LY is starting the route 3x weekly on their 789 in November.
Figured UA was trying to scare off LY, but now UA is only putting the 77W on the route for the peak summer season and going back to the 788 for winter. The odd part is that LYs 789 has all aisle access J class while UA will be competing with a 2-2-2 J class.
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Mar 5, 2018, 7:07 pm
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That was the initia thinking of UA putting the 77W on this route (to have a competitive J product), but UA apparently doesn’t scare anyone these days when it comes to competition...
Mar 5, 2018, 9:18 pm
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Is Israel a business destination with paid C class travel, or primarily a leisure/tourist/family destination?
This could simply be the winter capacity. At least UA is maintaining daily service.
Mar 6, 2018, 12:58 am
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Mar 6, 2018, 4:34 am
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a ton of adtech companies, mobileapp networks, and martech companies. I don't see a slowdown anytime soon as they represent a large part of the market
Mar 6, 2018, 5:45 am
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While most ( with exception ) of the ULH routes are only 1x daily, EWR-TLV is 2X daily. I always thought this was justified because there weren't any other TLV flights on the UA system. I am quite surprised that UA has been able to almost double their capacity to TLV from 534 daily seats ( 2 sCO 772s ) to 999 seats ( 2 773s and 1 sCO 772 ) in less than a two year period.
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Mar 6, 2018, 7:33 am
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While most ( with exception ) of the ULH routes are only 1x daily, EWR-TLV is 2X daily. I always thought this was justified because there weren't any other TLV flights on the UA system. I am quite surprised that UA has been able to almost double their capacity to TLV from 534 daily seats ( 2 sCO 772s ) to 999 seats ( 2 773s and 1 sCO 772 ) in less than a two year period.
I'm only surprised that UA is competing against a resurgent LY with a 788 from SFO after going 77W for the summer.
I'd wager that UA could pull off ORD-TLV as well. Though LY has their eyes on that route as well once they start getting their 788 deliveries.
Mar 6, 2018, 7:37 am
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That's how they've managed to succeed on SFO-SIN, despite offering an inferior product to SQ's.
Mar 6, 2018, 10:35 am
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Mar 6, 2018, 11:37 am
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Currently a 788, so the capacity increase is only from the end of May through the end of October.
Big enough that UA started the route a couple years ago with 3x weekly, quickly went to 7x weekly, and now LY is starting the route 3x weekly on their 789 in November.
Figured UA was trying to scare off LY, but now UA is only putting the 77W on the route for the peak summer season and going back to the 788 for winter. The odd part is that LYs 789 has all aisle access J class while UA will be competing with a 2-2-2 J class.
Big enough that UA started the route a couple years ago with 3x weekly, quickly went to 7x weekly, and now LY is starting the route 3x weekly on their 789 in November.
Figured UA was trying to scare off LY, but now UA is only putting the 77W on the route for the peak summer season and going back to the 788 for winter. The odd part is that LYs 789 has all aisle access J class while UA will be competing with a 2-2-2 J class.
Mar 23, 2018, 10:07 pm
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SFO-TPE Losing Polaris
Just tried to book SFO-TPE first week in November. Looks like that route is losing the 777-300ER and being downgraded to 777-200 without Polaris. Anyone know why? Where is that 777-300ER being redeployed?
Mar 23, 2018, 10:19 pm
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Mar 23, 2018, 10:26 pm
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Mar 23, 2018, 10:26 pm
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EWR-FRA/TLV also have 77W.