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Current 77W Routes:
SFO/HKG (UA 862/869) Started 25MAR17
EWR/TLV (UA 90/91) Started 5MAY17
SFO/NRT (UA 837/838) Started 14JUN17
SFO/TPE (UA 871/872) Started 1AUG17
SFO/FRA (UA 58/59) Started 5OCT17
EWR/NRT (UA 79/78) Started 28OCT17
SFO/AKL (UA 916/917) Resumes seasonal service 27OCT18 - 29MAR19 (non-seasonal 3x weekly service operated by 772)
SFO/LHR (UA 901/949) Started 23APR18, ends 26OCT18, resumes 30MAR19
SFO/TLV (UA 954/955) Started 23MAY18
EWR/BOM (UA 48/49) Started 27OCT18
EWR/HKG (UA 179/180) Started 30MAR19
Current Non-77W routes
772 Retrofit:
EWR/BRU (UA 999/998) Started 30MAR19
EWR/CDG (UA 57/56) Started 30MAR19
IAD/BRU (UA 950/951) Started 30MAR19
IAD/CDG (UA 915/914) Starts 29APR19
IAD/TLV (UA 72/73) Starts 22MAY19, 3x weekly
SFO/PEK (UA 888/889) Started 30MAR19
SFO/FRA (UA 926/927) Started 30MAR19
SFO/CDG (UA 990/984) Starts 29APR19
SFO/ICN (UA 805/806) Started 1APR19, 4x weekly
SFO/AKL (UA 916/917) Started off-season service 30MAR19, 3x weekly
Past routes:
EWR/FRA (UA 960/961) 24MAR18 - 31JUL18 (now operated by 78J)
SFO/EWR (various), currently operated by 752, 78J, 77G
SFO/HKG (UA 862/869) Started 25MAR17
EWR/TLV (UA 90/91) Started 5MAY17
SFO/NRT (UA 837/838) Started 14JUN17
SFO/TPE (UA 871/872) Started 1AUG17
SFO/FRA (UA 58/59) Started 5OCT17
EWR/NRT (UA 79/78) Started 28OCT17
SFO/AKL (UA 916/917) Resumes seasonal service 27OCT18 - 29MAR19 (non-seasonal 3x weekly service operated by 772)
SFO/LHR (UA 901/949) Started 23APR18, ends 26OCT18, resumes 30MAR19
SFO/TLV (UA 954/955) Started 23MAY18
EWR/BOM (UA 48/49) Started 27OCT18
EWR/HKG (UA 179/180) Started 30MAR19
Current Non-77W routes
772 Retrofit:
EWR/BRU (UA 999/998) Started 30MAR19
EWR/CDG (UA 57/56) Started 30MAR19
IAD/BRU (UA 950/951) Started 30MAR19
IAD/CDG (UA 915/914) Starts 29APR19
IAD/TLV (UA 72/73) Starts 22MAY19, 3x weekly
SFO/PEK (UA 888/889) Started 30MAR19
SFO/FRA (UA 926/927) Started 30MAR19
SFO/CDG (UA 990/984) Starts 29APR19
SFO/ICN (UA 805/806) Started 1APR19, 4x weekly
SFO/AKL (UA 916/917) Started off-season service 30MAR19, 3x weekly
Past routes:
EWR/FRA (UA 960/961) 24MAR18 - 31JUL18 (now operated by 78J)
SFO/EWR (various), currently operated by 752, 78J, 77G
United 77x Future/Changed Routes w/ Polaris Seats
#601
Join Date: Dec 2015
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There's still a chance it will switch back...... keep hope!
#602
Join Date: Aug 2012
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On the bright side, at least they didn't swap in a 777-200....
#603
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For the couple of days I looked, it only appears to be the later flight and the earlier flight is still a 77W, change of aircraft constitutes a schedule change, if you can you should be able to switch to the earlier flight.
#604
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That's not what the CoC says. You might be able to talk an agent into a free change based on change from the Polaris seat (different "seating configuration"), but a mere aircraft swap is not enough. Otherwise we'd all be getting free changes every time UA swapped a 739 for a 738 or a 319 for a 320.
#605
Join Date: Aug 2012
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Polaris hard product Q1 2018
Where can I find a list of routes with Polaris hard product? I have tried to wade through threads to find it, but can't find an actual list anywere - just mixtures of speculation and future plans.
I actually have some flexibility in a trip to Asia and am willing to take that into consideration.
I actually have some flexibility in a trip to Asia and am willing to take that into consideration.
Last edited by WineCountryUA; Jan 24, 2018 at 12:14 am Reason: merged to the relevant thread
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#607
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I had already done that - I asked because there are other types with the new hard product - 4 of the 767-300 according to the Polaris website Polaris Tracker - Desktop
#608
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I had already done that - I asked because there are other types with the new hard product - 4 of the 767-300 according to the Polaris website Polaris Tracker - Desktop
#609
Join Date: Nov 2014
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That's not what the CoC says. You might be able to talk an agent into a free change based on change from the Polaris seat (different "seating configuration"), but a mere aircraft swap is not enough. Otherwise we'd all be getting free changes every time UA swapped a 739 for a 738 or a 319 for a 320.
#610
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That's not what the CoC says. You might be able to talk an agent into a free change based on change from the Polaris seat (different "seating configuration"), but a mere aircraft swap is not enough. Otherwise we'd all be getting free changes every time UA swapped a 739 for a 738 or a 319 for a 320.
#611
Join Date: Dec 2015
Posts: 624
That's not what the CoC says. You might be able to talk an agent into a free change based on change from the Polaris seat (different "seating configuration"), but a mere aircraft swap is not enough. Otherwise we'd all be getting free changes every time UA swapped a 739 for a 738 or a 319 for a 320.
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Honestly, you think a swap from a 319 to a 320 entitles you to a fee-free change?
#613
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Seat layout is not "seating configuration" within the meaning of the CoC. They are talking about a materially different type of seat, e.g., lie-flat to recliner. I understand people have had success arguing that a switch from Polaris seat to one of the older seats qualifies, but that does not mean any aircraft swap gets you a free change.
Honestly, you think a swap from a 319 to a 320 entitles you to a fee-free change?
Honestly, you think a swap from a 319 to a 320 entitles you to a fee-free change?
If this is indeed a Schedule Change, then United may take the position that the CoC does not require United to make changes for the passenger unless the arrival or departure time changes by 30 minutes or more. (IIRC, older versions of the CoC did not impose the 30-minute requirement, so in the old days there was probably more flexibility to adjust an itinerary based on an advance aircraft swap.) Thus, if the OP's flight times are roughly the same as before, United may not agree with an argument that the CoC allows a swap. That said, it may not be hard to find a sympathetic agent who will swap anyway, if one can persuade the agent (and/or supervisor) that the booking was made for the purpose of the Polaris seat.
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It should also be noted that the "seating configuration" change is mentioned only under the section for "Irregular Operations." While one might argue, based on the text of the rule, that an advance aircraft swap can lead to a "seating configuration" change and therefore qualify as "Irregular Operations," the CoC can also be read to imply that "Irregular Operations," by its nature, excludes advance schedule changes. Under that reading, then the OP has what the CoC refers to as a "Schedule Change," which the CoC defines to be along the lines of any change to the itinerary that is not Irregular Operations (and some other stuff).
If this is indeed a Schedule Change, then United may take the position that the CoC does not require United to make changes for the passenger unless the arrival or departure time changes by 30 minutes or more. (IIRC, older versions of the CoC did not impose the 30-minute requirement, so in the old days there was probably more flexibility to adjust an itinerary based on an advance aircraft swap.) Thus, if the OP's flight times are roughly the same as before, United may not agree with an argument that the CoC allows a swap. That said, it may not be hard to find a sympathetic agent who will swap anyway, if one can persuade the agent (and/or supervisor) that the booking was made for the purpose of the Polaris seat.
If this is indeed a Schedule Change, then United may take the position that the CoC does not require United to make changes for the passenger unless the arrival or departure time changes by 30 minutes or more. (IIRC, older versions of the CoC did not impose the 30-minute requirement, so in the old days there was probably more flexibility to adjust an itinerary based on an advance aircraft swap.) Thus, if the OP's flight times are roughly the same as before, United may not agree with an argument that the CoC allows a swap. That said, it may not be hard to find a sympathetic agent who will swap anyway, if one can persuade the agent (and/or supervisor) that the booking was made for the purpose of the Polaris seat.
1) We have no status with UA
2) It is an award flight, booked under the old 57.5K saver rate
3) There doesn't appear to be award availability on the earlier flight
4) I already clicked the 'accept' button
I don't see any point in calling, but maybe the UA experts can advise differently?
Thanks all!
#615
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When I logged in to check the reservation and to reassign seats, it notified me that a schedule change had occurred and I either had to accept or not accept the reservation. Looking at the departure/arrival times, they had changed by only about 10 min. so I didn't see any point in not accepting, so I hit the 'accept' button and went on to change my seats. I did not know there was an earlier FRA-SFO flight at the time. We currently have a 6.5 hr layover in FRA, so the earlier flight would be desirable. Is it worth pursuing this by calling UA, given that:
1) We have no status with UA
2) It is an award flight, booked under the old 57.5K saver rate
3) There doesn't appear to be award availability on the earlier flight
4) I already clicked the 'accept' button
I don't see any point in calling, but maybe the UA experts can advise differently?
Thanks all!
1) We have no status with UA
2) It is an award flight, booked under the old 57.5K saver rate
3) There doesn't appear to be award availability on the earlier flight
4) I already clicked the 'accept' button
I don't see any point in calling, but maybe the UA experts can advise differently?
Thanks all!