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Old Feb 21, 2017, 2:36 pm
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Current 77W Routes:
SFO/HKG (UA 862/869) Started 25MAR17
EWR/TLV (UA 90/91) Started 5MAY17
SFO/NRT (UA 837/838) Started 14JUN17
SFO/TPE (UA 871/872) Started 1AUG17
SFO/FRA (UA 58/59) Started 5OCT17
EWR/NRT (UA 79/78) Started 28OCT17
SFO/AKL (UA 916/917) Resumes seasonal service 27OCT18 - 29MAR19 (non-seasonal 3x weekly service operated by 772)
SFO/LHR (UA 901/949) Started 23APR18, ends 26OCT18, resumes 30MAR19
SFO/TLV (UA 954/955) Started 23MAY18
EWR/BOM (UA 48/49) Started 27OCT18
EWR/HKG (UA 179/180) Started 30MAR19

Current Non-77W routes
772 Retrofit:
EWR/BRU (UA 999/998) Started 30MAR19
EWR/CDG (UA 57/56) Started 30MAR19
IAD/BRU (UA 950/951) Started 30MAR19
IAD/CDG (UA 915/914) Starts 29APR19
IAD/TLV (UA 72/73) Starts 22MAY19, 3x weekly
SFO/PEK (UA 888/889) Started 30MAR19
SFO/FRA (UA 926/927) Started 30MAR19
SFO/CDG (UA 990/984) Starts 29APR19
SFO/ICN (UA 805/806) Started 1APR19, 4x weekly
SFO/AKL (UA 916/917) Started off-season service 30MAR19, 3x weekly

Past routes:
EWR/FRA (UA 960/961) 24MAR18 - 31JUL18 (now operated by 78J)
SFO/EWR (various), currently operated by 752, 78J, 77G
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Old Jul 24, 2017, 2:18 pm
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Originally Posted by pdxflyer12
Do you think the SFO routes will get the 77W prior to anything out of LAX? You mentioned SFO - SYD, which got me thinking about LAX - SYD, and LAX - MEL.
Along with KirkwoodJ, I would also say that in addition to being mentioned above, SFO also seems to be the 77w hub with LAX seeing the 787s.

So SFO - SYD seems like a great pick over LAX - SYD first!
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Old Sep 2, 2017, 7:44 am
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SFO-AKL now scheduled with 77W beginning 29OCT17. Service will now be 6 weekly 27Oct to 17 Dec, and daily from 18Dec to 22Mar. The second flight (UA 73/74) is cancelled.

http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/...as-of-01sep17/
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Old Sep 2, 2017, 8:20 am
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It appears they upgauged the IAD-MUC/MUC-IAD Flights the past couple days from 772 to 773.
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Old Sep 2, 2017, 9:35 am
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Originally Posted by sannmann
It appears they upgauged the IAD-MUC/MUC-IAD Flights the past couple days from 772 to 773.
They upgauged ORD-FRA-ORD 8/24-8/29
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Originally Posted by UAinAUS
SFO-AKL now scheduled with 77W beginning 29OCT17. Service will now be 6 weekly 27Oct to 17 Dec, and daily from 18Dec to 22Mar. The second flight (UA 73/74) is cancelled.

http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/...as-of-01sep17/
That probably wraps up W17 77W schedule. 8 long-hauls with 1 (or 0) domestic using 14 aircrafts. SFO-PEK-SFO becomes a quick turn for better 77W utilization.
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Old Sep 3, 2017, 10:21 pm
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Glad see the 77W on the SFO/AKL/SFO route I now have two united and NZ flights on the 77W!
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Old Sep 4, 2017, 11:56 am
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Originally Posted by mikeyf
Glad see the 77W on the SFO/AKL/SFO route I now have two united and NZ flights on the 77W!
im shocked the put the 777-300 on a low end route like AKL
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Old Sep 4, 2017, 2:57 pm
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Originally Posted by flybit
im shocked the put the 777-300 on a low end route like AKL
Could be utilization? SFO - AKL is a relatively short flight plus the NZ/UA JV means the capacity risk is shared.
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Old Sep 4, 2017, 3:39 pm
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Originally Posted by Duke787
Could be utilization? ...
Likely UA felt the present 789's were a better fit for a different route.

It is never a one route decision -- it is how to best use all the aircraft you have to cover all the routes you want to service. Looking at an inidivual route is only looking at part of the situation.

Originally Posted by Duke787
SFO - AKL is a relatively short flight ...
25 hours RT?? There are only a handful of other longer routes.
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Old Sep 4, 2017, 5:38 pm
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Originally Posted by bobbybrown
That probably wraps up W17 77W schedule. 8 long-hauls with 1 (or 0) domestic using 14 aircrafts. SFO-PEK-SFO becomes a quick turn for better 77W utilization.
Agreed about the winter schedule - although AKL and TPE are seasonal, LHR takes over after TPE, so I would assume we would hear about a route starting up in March that takes over AKL fairly soon.
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Old Sep 4, 2017, 8:01 pm
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Strange thing is TPE's high season starts again mid May.
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Old Sep 4, 2017, 8:52 pm
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Strange thing is TPE's high season starts again mid May.
Given SFO-TPE was a 747, the direct swap made some sense. But eventually they can right-size capacity on that route, for which the 747 and 77W may be too much.
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Old Sep 4, 2017, 8:54 pm
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Originally Posted by drewguy
But eventually they can right-size capacity on that route, for which the 747 and 77W may be too much.
SFO-TPE wasn't that difficult an upgrade when it was a 789. Perhaps the Y demand justifies the larger aircraft.

I'm really surprised at AKL. I would have expected SYD before that. Or EWR-HKG.
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Old Sep 4, 2017, 10:05 pm
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Originally Posted by Duke787
Could be utilization? SFO - AKL is a relatively short flight plus the NZ/UA JV means the capacity risk is shared.
I wouldn't have thought of a 12.5 hour flight as relatively short
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Old Sep 4, 2017, 10:34 pm
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Originally Posted by Kacee
SFO-TPE wasn't that difficult an upgrade when it was a 789. Perhaps the Y demand justifies the larger aircraft.

I'm really surprised at AKL. I would have expected SYD before that. Or EWR-HKG.
Larger aircraft, yet... but 10-abreast on a 13 or 14-hour nonstop is just brutal.. even for slim passengers.
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