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https://www.united.com/web/en-US/content/travel/inflight/aircraft/777/300/default.aspx
UA Orders Boeing 777-300ERs / 77Ws w/ 1-2-1 Polaris Business, 3-4-3 Economy
Mar 3, 2015, 5:40 pm
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The company has mentioned internally that they would like to move the sCO 757 away from Continental Europe within the next 18 - 24 months and isolate them to UK/Ireland flights where reliability isn't much of a concern or issue. Part of this involves reconfiguring the 3-cabin 763s to the 2-cabin 763 standard and taking more 787 deliveries. So expect 777s, 787s & 767s to Continental Europe and sCO 757s to UK/Ireland. Also look for more of the sCO 757s to fly more transcons such as EWR - LAX/SFO/SEA etc and West Coast/DEN - Hawaii flights. EWR - LHR will of course continue to see a mix of sCO 777s, 787s, 767s in addition to possibly a 757 or 2 during the summer travel season.
Rainey's comments on how they'd like a replacement for the 757 makes me wonder if Boeing will finally announce the long-rumored 757ng or whatever you want to call it. Maybe call it a narrow body Dreamliner? With both UA and DL clamoring for it, why wouldn't Boeing build it?
Mar 3, 2015, 5:46 pm
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If we are talking about INTL configuration, then yes please. If those are put on redeye flights, watch them become impossible upgrades (16F seats only).
Mar 3, 2015, 5:50 pm
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Those 757's are workhorses. Say what you want but I prefer the increased frequency vs. a 1-a-day wide body. Almost makes commuting to Europe easy.
Rainey's comments on how they'd like a replacement for the 757 makes me wonder if Boeing will finally announce the long-rumored 757ng or whatever you want to call it. Maybe call it a narrow body Dreamliner? With both UA and DL clamoring for it, why wouldn't Boeing build it?
Rainey's comments on how they'd like a replacement for the 757 makes me wonder if Boeing will finally announce the long-rumored 757ng or whatever you want to call it. Maybe call it a narrow body Dreamliner? With both UA and DL clamoring for it, why wouldn't Boeing build it?
Mar 3, 2015, 5:59 pm
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The company has mentioned internally that they would like to move the sCO 757 away from Continental Europe within the next 18 - 24 months and isolate them to UK/Ireland flights where reliability isn't much of a concern or issue. ...Also look for more of the sCO 757s to fly more transcons such as EWR - LAX/SFO/SEA etc and West Coast/DEN - Hawaii flights.
Mar 3, 2015, 6:25 pm
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Rainey's comments on how they'd like a replacement for the 757 makes me wonder if Boeing will finally announce the long-rumored 757ng or whatever you want to call it. Maybe call it a narrow body Dreamliner? With both UA and DL clamoring for it, why wouldn't Boeing build it?
Also the lack of engines for it. Boeing would have to get one of the engine OEMs to blow billions on a new engine.
Mar 3, 2015, 6:57 pm
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So, I think the above comments paint a very strong business case for the 777-300ER coming on board:
- RR 752 working more TCON and HI routes
- Refurbed 2 class 763s taking the place of the RR 752s ex EWR and IAD to to European continental destinations
- 787-8s and 787-9s filling the place of current IPTE 763s
- 777-300ERs taking the place of 744 long distance TPAC flying ex ORD
- 744s finally being fully retired as A350s & 787-10s come on line
Outstanding questions for UA:
- Can the A321Neo-LR really work in places like DEN and TATL?
- Do they wait for the Boeing NSA to replace the 752?
- When does UA order the 777X-8?
- RR 752 working more TCON and HI routes
- Refurbed 2 class 763s taking the place of the RR 752s ex EWR and IAD to to European continental destinations
- 787-8s and 787-9s filling the place of current IPTE 763s
- 777-300ERs taking the place of 744 long distance TPAC flying ex ORD
- 744s finally being fully retired as A350s & 787-10s come on line
Outstanding questions for UA:
- Can the A321Neo-LR really work in places like DEN and TATL?
- Do they wait for the Boeing NSA to replace the 752?
- When does UA order the 777X-8?
Mar 3, 2015, 7:20 pm
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So, I think the above comments paint a very strong business case for the 777-300ER coming on board:
- RR 752 working more TCON and HI routes
- Refurbed 2 class 763s taking the place of the RR 752s ex EWR and IAD to to European continental destinations
- 787-8s and 787-9s filling the place of current IPTE 763s
- 777-300ERs taking the place of 744 long distance TPAC flying ex ORD
- 744s finally being fully retired as A350s & 787-10s come on line
Outstanding questions for UA:
- Can the A321Neo-LR really work in places like DEN and TATL?
- Do they wait for the Boeing NSA to replace the 752?
- When does UA order the 777X-8?
- RR 752 working more TCON and HI routes
- Refurbed 2 class 763s taking the place of the RR 752s ex EWR and IAD to to European continental destinations
- 787-8s and 787-9s filling the place of current IPTE 763s
- 777-300ERs taking the place of 744 long distance TPAC flying ex ORD
- 744s finally being fully retired as A350s & 787-10s come on line
Outstanding questions for UA:
- Can the A321Neo-LR really work in places like DEN and TATL?
- Do they wait for the Boeing NSA to replace the 752?
- When does UA order the 777X-8?
Mar 3, 2015, 7:35 pm
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- That's a lot of years away, like 2030 EIS, maybe 2025 at the earliest.
- I doubt they will, they don't have any routes over 7000nm and I don't see ripe opportunities. 9X is where the smart money is. What is lucrative beyond these 7600nm SFO/EWR contours?
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Mar 3, 2015, 9:08 pm
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UA To Order Boeing 777-300ERs?
All Airbus seats are 17" wide. Most Boeing seats only 16" with narrower aisles than Airbus. Airbus planes have roomier bathrooms etc. Fingers crossed for 3-class Airbus but fearing SMI/J's love affair with Boeing products will prevail. The Continental regime seems to favor 2-class (BusinessFirst and, is it EconomyBusiness...?)
Mar 3, 2015, 9:11 pm
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All Airbus seats are 17" wide. Most Boeing seats only 16" with narrower aisles than Airbus. Airbus planes have roomier bathrooms etc. Fingers crossed for 3-class Airbus but fearing SMI/J's love affair with Boeing products will prevail. The Continental regime seems to favor 2-class (BusinessFirst and, is it EconomyBusiness...?)
Mar 3, 2015, 9:28 pm
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Any hint of the 77W order? We can only speculate this order is all but imminent just finalising some final details. This management could care less about GF. The real question is whether if this order can be met in time for a 1-2-1 BF seating, which you have indicated on previous posts. And using info from GS flyers, it's pretty safe to say that the BF will resemble Qatar's new Business on the A350/787.
Mar 3, 2015, 10:47 pm
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All Airbus seats are 17" wide. Most Boeing seats only 16" with narrower aisles than Airbus. Airbus planes have roomier bathrooms etc. Fingers crossed for 3-class Airbus but fearing SMI/J's love affair with Boeing products will prevail. The Continental regime seems to favor 2-class (BusinessFirst and, is it EconomyBusiness...?)
Mar 3, 2015, 10:53 pm
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Mar 3, 2015, 10:56 pm
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In fact, SQ 777-300ER new seats are well over 19" wide! Wider than the *cough* A380 seats on any carrier.